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Originally Posted By 1245xx: I believe FSU has, or had, a clown school. Originally Posted By 1245xx: Originally Posted By Codyboy: One of the owners is going to "clown school"? WTH. Like for rodeo clown or just a clown? I believe FSU has, or had, a clown school. Hey now, they call it the Sports Ethics Program. |
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Originally Posted By GrumpyinStL: Don't start. They are like that crazy vagrant shitting their pants on the sidewalk. Just move away and keep going. Inclusivity Uber Alles! |
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Originally Posted By fsjdw2: "Domestic violence was eight times as high among bisexual persons (32.3 victimizations per 1,000 persons age 16 or older) and more than twice as high among lesbian or gay persons (10.3 per 1,000) as it was among straight persons (4.2 per 1,000). " PER biden's DOJ UF DAH... Also, "mysogynoir" is a real word apparently was created in 2008 , basically means "racisim directed at black women exclusively" ... So the majority of hte USA might be guilty due to the dislike of the WNBA.. And the media reports those acts of violence in terms of who the victims are, never identifying the perpetrators. It's always inferred that it's gay-bashing on the part of straight white males. Exactly the same as black homicides. |
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Originally Posted By fighter443: Holy crap I thought the internet had a hiccup and this was a repost from the Covid era. Nope. Trouble is a brewin' at this watering hole. A Massachusetts lesbian bar descended into a catty culture war and faces a potentially business-ending boycott from sudden enemies who flipped out when the owners lifted a longstanding mask mandate for just one night a week. Greenfield's Last Ditch Bar scrapped Saturday mask requirements on Aug. 31 in a bid to boost business but the move completely backfired, sparking uproar from members of the small city's queer community. Some critics dramatically likened the decision to a "mass disabling event," a "eugenicist" attack and a host of other hot-button terms that escalated to threats of violence. Who would have thought a small town doesn't really need a lesbian bar? Better invite the straights before it's too late. |
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Originally Posted By Lone_Eagle: It’s not just the lesbos that want nothing to do with them. This year’s “Pride Parade” almost devolved into chaos when the troon float arrived. Local news didn’t even touch it, but a couple of gay dudes I know were beyond pissed. To quote them, those freaks are trying to take over the “community”. About 99% of the gay dudes wouldn’t even speak to a troon, much less fuck it. Now they know how the rest of us feel when adult men and women have "parades" on public streets to display their sexuality. All of these groups demanding that everyone else provide them the acceptance they can never have for themselves, as though enabling self-destructive behaviour is an act of humanitarianism. |
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Originally Posted By Federov: If you think this is bad, there's a cold war going on in PNW lesbian bars that don't want trans in there because they're dudes with penises. The trans people get all upset and start stalking the lesbians and there's been fights. Bars like this one are probably nothing but trans women, hence the masks. Real lesbians don't want anything to do with troons but the troons want to force them to have sex with them. The dynamic is funny because you will meet "old school" lesbians who have been labeled TERFs and basically exiled from the LGBT crowd because they refuse to call trans dudes "women" They have essentially become like grumpy ass old white men. Like I couldn't tell the difference between some of these old butch lesbians and the old guys hanging out around the coffee machine at the LGS. |
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Originally Posted By CS223: Not a bar. It's a meeting place for mentally ill but without a healthcare intervention. Originally Posted By CS223: Not a bar. It's a meeting place for mentally ill but without a healthcare intervention. They can't have a healthcare intervention. If they did the licensed therapist would lock them all in mental hospitals. It's right there in the article. Originally Posted By FredMan: What mask mandate? And if you’re so frail and immunocompromised that you’re petrified you’ll catch something just from being out in public, maybe you should just stay home. That's ableist! The differently-abled are just as able as you and me and it's ableist to fail to make accommodations to them like making the rest of us wear hijabs until nobody ever gets sick again. Originally Posted By R2point0: According to the rules those crazy vagrants were welcome to enter and shit on the dance floor. Inclusivity Uber Alles! I think that's just what the rest of us called "Getting Schwifty." |
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Originally Posted By mancat: The dynamic is funny because you will meet "old school" lesbians who have been labeled TERFs and basically exiled from the LGBT crowd because they refuse to call trans dudes "women" They have essentially become like grumpy ass old white men. Like I couldn't tell the difference between some of these old butch lesbians and the old guys hanging out around the coffee machine at the LGS. Old boomer here. I confess I still have to think about it for a while to remember whether a "trans man" is a woman who thinks she's a man, or vice versa. But I don't think about it too long before giving up out of ennui. |
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Originally Posted By flcracker: The article is full of great gems like this: Rules of the house: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/74872/16917_jpg-3831578.JPG Originally Posted By flcracker: The article is full of great gems like this: Sales had already been slumping due to the bar’s floundering business model that includes rules like, “Nobody will be barred from entry due to lack of funds,” and “Poor and unhoused people are welcome in the space.” The mask mandate was another rule, as Last Ditch vowed ableism — infringements on disabled patrons enjoying the venue — was strictly barred. That meant the face coverings were required to protect anyone who was immunocompromised. It remains unclear how anyone was expected to drink while masked. The bar’s three owners — one a drag performer using it/its pronouns, another now in clown school — began to slip behind on their bills and couldn’t pay themselves or even their staff. Management first tried to apologize for its supposedly flippant post, writing “We are sorry for our passive and dismissive tone of our change to the norms and schedule impacting the most intersectional of us.” But that only fanned the flames — because Last Ditch’s post failed to include written “alt text” describing the written message for visually impaired people. “This is not an accessible post,” somebody commented. “It indicates the lack of care or interest in Disability intersectionality.” Then things were really set off when one woman attending in-person, a therapist, said she wished everybody could be there so they could talk together. “It’s messed up that the mediator is dismissing those attending virtually. That’s not accessibility,” somebody wrote, while others claimed it was “wildly unsafe” to have a licensed therapist who they claimed could use her power to force them into mental hospitals against their will. “A lot of people are calling for an acknowledgment of harm and I’m hearing a WHITE therapist … center[ing] the feelings of a majority white and white adjacent staff,” another offered. “I never really wanted this,” she said. “I don’t think I’m doing a very good job.” Her critics weren’t impressed. “You chose to use your time to spill tears and center your feelings,” one person responded. “This is incredibly racist and deflecting behavior.” Rules of the house: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/74872/16917_jpg-3831578.JPG Sweet Jesus |
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Originally Posted By AnalogKid: You would be correct. I know a number of the LGB crowd. It's rare to see partnered men abuse each other but it's also rare to see partnered women NOT. Originally Posted By AnalogKid: Originally Posted By Makarov: I know a woman who was in a lesbian “marriage” for four years. She said that ALL (her word) lesbian relationships end up abusive, given time. That inevitably, one woman physically and mentally dominates the other but without the societal constraints of a heterosexual relationship to keep it in check. You would be correct. I know a number of the LGB crowd. It's rare to see partnered men abuse each other but it's also rare to see partnered women NOT. I watched a gay couple have a fist fight in the apartment across the alley from my girlfriend's place back in college. It was pretty intense. I don't know that one of them in particular was abusing the other though, they were both swinging pretty hard on each other. 
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Originally Posted By glock27bill: Now they know how the rest of us feel when adult men and women have "parades" on public streets to display their sexuality. All of these groups demanding that everyone else provide them the acceptance they can never have for themselves, as though enabling self-destructive behaviour is an act of humanitarianism. Originally Posted By glock27bill: Originally Posted By Lone_Eagle: It’s not just the lesbos that want nothing to do with them. This year’s “Pride Parade” almost devolved into chaos when the troon float arrived. Local news didn’t even touch it, but a couple of gay dudes I know were beyond pissed. To quote them, those freaks are trying to take over the “community”. About 99% of the gay dudes wouldn’t even speak to a troon, much less fuck it. Now they know how the rest of us feel when adult men and women have "parades" on public streets to display their sexuality. All of these groups demanding that everyone else provide them the acceptance they can never have for themselves, as though enabling self-destructive behaviour is an act of humanitarianism. And they go to great lengths to virtue signal that it is. Call it "having compassion." Then wonder why the issues are getting worse. |
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Originally Posted By Coffin-Nail: When it came time to hear from Last Ditch's last remaining owner the other two quit months ago she broke down in tears saying she'd just been trying to help her friends with their business before ending up in charge. "It was not my passion project," Jackie Matellian cried through her mask, explaining she'd been left responsible for the $50,000 business loan taken out with her friends and that she'd been living in a car for six months to stay ahead of bar payments. Matellian also claimed she'd been working four jobs to keep up with the payments. "I never really wanted this," she said. "I don't think I'm doing a very good job." Her critics weren't impressed. https://media2.giphy.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/200.webp?cid=8dc8958cu9c0hjv6xkpcxr97olqthje6abah9037lamrhsl5&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200.webp&ct=g  When I was a Private in the Army I bought a $50k house and made around $2k a month. That loan at 8.5% with tax and insurance was $459 a month. A bar should pull down $200-300 a night in tips alone. That place must be garbage. |
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Originally Posted By R2point0: Huh? Business ownership doesn't work that way. You can't just "quit" and dump the liabilities on the co-owners unless they agree to it. She probably did. Didn't have the spine to stand up to her "friends" and let manipulate her to accept all the debt. Frankly a $50k loan for a bar if run correctly shouldn't be hard to pay back. The problem with her business is that it explicitly caters to a segment that will never spend enough to make it profitable. And letting the homeless into a bar is peak woke. You cant afford a beer or a minimum cover to keep the trash out, you can't come in. Oh well. |
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Originally Posted By FredMan: What mask mandate? And if you're so frail and immunocompromised that you're petrified you'll catch something just from being out in public, maybe you should just stay home. (**That's not an anti-drinking statement, just an observation on the hypocrisy of it all) |
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Originally Posted By Lou_Daks: Old boomer here. I confess I still have to think about it for a while to remember whether a "trans man" is a woman who thinks she's a man, or vice versa. But I don't think about it too long before giving up out of ennui. Originally Posted By Lou_Daks: Originally Posted By mancat: The dynamic is funny because you will meet "old school" lesbians who have been labeled TERFs and basically exiled from the LGBT crowd because they refuse to call trans dudes "women" They have essentially become like grumpy ass old white men. Like I couldn't tell the difference between some of these old butch lesbians and the old guys hanging out around the coffee machine at the LGS. Old boomer here. I confess I still have to think about it for a while to remember whether a "trans man" is a woman who thinks she's a man, or vice versa. But I don't think about it too long before giving up out of ennui. It's really easy to remember. Just replace "trans" with "fake". |
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Originally Posted By Federov: If you think this is bad, there's a cold war going on in PNW lesbian bars that don't want trans in there because they're dudes with penises. The trans people get all upset and start stalking the lesbians and there's been fights. Bars like this one are probably nothing but trans women, hence the masks. Real lesbians don't want anything to do with troons but the troons want to force them to have sex with them. It's bad if a straight man doesn't want to suck a tranny's dick too, because "you're not sucking a man's dick, it's a woman's dick, so it's not gay." You can't make this shit up. |
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Originally Posted By Lou_Daks: Old boomer here. I confess I still have to think about it for a while to remember whether a "trans man" is a woman who thinks she's a man, or vice versa. But I don't think about it too long before giving up out of ennui. Just replace trans with NOT. Trans woman - not a woman Trans man - not a man |
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Originally Posted By LoBrau: I watched a gay couple have a fist fight in the apartment across the alley from my girlfriend's place back in college. It was pretty intense. I don't know that one of them in particular was abusing the other though, they were both swinging pretty hard on each other. Originally Posted By LoBrau: Originally Posted By AnalogKid: Originally Posted By Makarov: I know a woman who was in a lesbian "marriage" for four years. She said that ALL (her word) lesbian relationships end up abusive, given time. That inevitably, one woman physically and mentally dominates the other but without the societal constraints of a heterosexual relationship to keep it in check. You would be correct. I know a number of the LGB crowd. It's rare to see partnered men abuse each other but it's also rare to see partnered women NOT. I watched a gay couple have a fist fight in the apartment across the alley from my girlfriend's place back in college. It was pretty intense. I don't know that one of them in particular was abusing the other though, they were both swinging pretty hard on each other. |
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I don't drink in bars any more. But when I did, I really disliked those places that had all sorts of rules. Things like, "Never, ever, put a cigar in the Sacred Moose's mouth." or "No laughing", or even "Women are not allowed to order drinks across the bar, they must be seated in a booth." Don't get me started on the guy who was like a Fudd rangemaster about the dart board. That Lesbian Bar sounds like one of those places. They all eventually go out of business. Running a business is hard even in the most permissive environments. It is impossible when you start throttling your customers that hard. |
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Originally Posted By FreefallRet: Four jobs to keep up payments on a $50k loan When I was a Private in the Army I bought a $50k house and made around $2k a month. That loan at 8.5% with tax and insurance was $459 a month. A bar should pull down $200-300 a night in tips alone. That place must be garbage. Declare bankruptcy and walk away like her "friends" did. I doubt she has any actual assets. When the bar comes up in a foreclosure sale see how the "community" responds. |
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Originally Posted By Lexustech48: She probably did. Didn't have the spine to stand up to her "friends" and let manipulate her to accept all the debt. Frankly a $50k loan for a bar if run correctly shouldn't be hard to pay back. The problem with her business is that it explicitly caters to a segment that will never spend enough to make it profitable. And letting the homeless into a bar is peak woke. You cant afford a beer or a minimum cover to keep the trash out, you can't come in. Oh well. |
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Originally Posted By shack357: It's bad if a straight man doesn't want to suck a tranny's dick too, because "you're not sucking a man's dick, it's a woman's dick, so it's not gay." You can't make this shit up. |
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Originally Posted By Coffin-Nail: Originally Posted By Coffin-Nail: When it came time to hear from Last Ditch's last remaining owner the other two quit months ago she broke down in tears saying she'd just been trying to help her friends with their business before ending up in charge. "It was not my passion project," Jackie Matellian cried through her mask, explaining she'd been left responsible for the $50,000 business loan taken out with her friends and that she'd been living in a car for six months to stay ahead of bar payments. Matellian also claimed she'd been working four jobs to keep up with the payments. "I never really wanted this," she said. "I don't think I'm doing a very good job." Her critics weren't impressed. |
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Women can't even get along with themselves, much less anyone else not of the same sex......................
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Originally Posted By shack357: It's bad if a straight man doesn't want to suck a tranny's dick too, because "you're not sucking a man's dick, it's a woman's dick, so it's not gay." You can't make this shit up. Originally Posted By shack357: Originally Posted By Federov: If you think this is bad, there's a cold war going on in PNW lesbian bars that don't want trans in there because they're dudes with penises. The trans people get all upset and start stalking the lesbians and there's been fights. Bars like this one are probably nothing but trans women, hence the masks. Real lesbians don't want anything to do with troons but the troons want to force them to have sex with them. It's bad if a straight man doesn't want to suck a tranny's dick too, because "you're not sucking a man's dick, it's a woman's dick, so it's not gay." You can't make this shit up. Nice try......I'm not falling for that again. |
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Originally Posted By flcracker: The article is full of great gems like this: Rules of the house: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/74872/16917_jpg-3831578.JPG Originally Posted By flcracker: The article is full of great gems like this: Sales had already been slumping due to the bar’s floundering business model that includes rules like, “Nobody will be barred from entry due to lack of funds,” and “Poor and unhoused people are welcome in the space.” The mask mandate was another rule, as Last Ditch vowed ableism — infringements on disabled patrons enjoying the venue — was strictly barred. That meant the face coverings were required to protect anyone who was immunocompromised. It remains unclear how anyone was expected to drink while masked. The bar’s three owners — one a drag performer using it/its pronouns, another now in clown school — began to slip behind on their bills and couldn’t pay themselves or even their staff. Management first tried to apologize for its supposedly flippant post, writing “We are sorry for our passive and dismissive tone of our change to the norms and schedule impacting the most intersectional of us.” But that only fanned the flames — because Last Ditch’s post failed to include written “alt text” describing the written message for visually impaired people. “This is not an accessible post,” somebody commented. “It indicates the lack of care or interest in Disability intersectionality.” Then things were really set off when one woman attending in-person, a therapist, said she wished everybody could be there so they could talk together. “It’s messed up that the mediator is dismissing those attending virtually. That’s not accessibility,” somebody wrote, while others claimed it was “wildly unsafe” to have a licensed therapist who they claimed could use her power to force them into mental hospitals against their will. “A lot of people are calling for an acknowledgment of harm and I’m hearing a WHITE therapist … center[ing] the feelings of a majority white and white adjacent staff,” another offered. “I never really wanted this,” she said. “I don’t think I’m doing a very good job.” Her critics weren’t impressed. “You chose to use your time to spill tears and center your feelings,” one person responded. “This is incredibly racist and deflecting behavior.” Rules of the house: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/74872/16917_jpg-3831578.JPG I had to scroll up to the top of the thread one more time to make sure this wasn't a Babylon Bee article. |
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Originally Posted By CastleBravo91: Yet the participants fail to understand why it's not working. Originally Posted By CastleBravo91: Originally Posted By AR4U: This should be funny, but isn't. This is literally the end state of the philosophy that half the country is voting for. Yet the participants fail to understand why it's not working. |
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