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In 1804 they murdered all the white people in Haiti. This is their national hero: Attached File I'd say the entire country can go to hell, but it's basically already there. |
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Originally Posted By grambosc: In 1804 they murdered all the white people in Haiti. This is their national hero: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/481717/1000218999_jpg-3831209.JPG I'd say the entire country can go to hell, but it's basically already there. "All the white people" includes the white people stupid enough to aid them in their revolution, and also includes quite a bit of rape. If white people had been smart they might have considered this a "clue" and started heading thier separate ways, but instead they decided to come up with even more elaborate ways to excuse such behavior. The food is so good? |
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Originally Posted By graysonp: Haiti is Schrodinger's nation. A country so beautiful and prosperous that we can't criticize it and should welcome its' people to the US with open arms, but at the same time, so violent and shitty that it's completely unethical to deport anyone back there. just like somalia |
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Originally Posted By Coati: After listening to the crazy barbeque guy, although a prolific liar, I am convinced he's the most likely guy to unify that country. The dude has managed to coalesce a mind-boggling number of competing gang interests, in a unifying fashion and even charisma that the actual presidential panel has been unable to do. It is only a matter of time until he reaches critical mass. 
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Originally Posted By Dissident: Why? Originally Posted By Dissident: Originally Posted By byron2112: As with everything I blame France Why? |
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Originally Posted By R2point0: The best predictor of a former colony's success is the nationality of the colonizers. Basically the only colonies that have been successful have been British colonies, though it's not 100%. Next best is Spain and Portugal, which are still generally shitholes but have fared better than the French and Belgian colonies. Originally Posted By R2point0: Originally Posted By Dissident: Originally Posted By byron2112: As with everything I blame France Why? Or, did the colonizers attempt to integrate the native population into their new society, or just killed them off. |
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Originally Posted By LV1976: Or, did the colonizers attempt to integrate the native population into their new society, or just killed them off. France and Belgium were the most merciless in enslaving the populace, but Spain was not far behind. When they were kicked out, local leaders simply replaced them in the established power structure. And that's what has continued - one strongman after another, putting his kin in positions of power and abusing those lower than him - exactly like the colonizers. It's where they learned it. That doesn't give them a pass, but it does explain why most former colonies are the way they are. |
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Originally Posted By R2point0: The best predictor of a former colony's success is the nationality of the colonizers. Basically the only colonies that have been successful have been British colonies, though it's not 100%. Next best is Spain and Portugal, which are still generally shitholes but have fared better than the French and Belgian colonies. Originally Posted By R2point0: Originally Posted By Dissident: Originally Posted By byron2112: As with everything I blame France Why? Thanks! |
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The funny thing is that, post WWII, the only reason anyone has intervened in Haiti is "humanitarian." Haitians are so horrible to each other that other countries have felt compelled to go in to protect them from themselves. That's it. Haiti has no resources anyone wants, they aren't strategically important, the only thing they export is refugees. There is no reason for the rest of the world to pay any attention to Haiti at all, respectfully or not. I can see an effort to help DR protect their border, and keeping Haitian "refugees" out. Other than that? Change the map to "Who?" and totally ignore them. |
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Originally Posted By R2point0: I think the DR might be upset about the fallout. Fuel air bombs and napalm more better. Originally Posted By R2point0: Originally Posted By TitanXD: If we nuked Haiti today would anyone even notice? Excellent idea. See, there is always a solution to any problem. We begin bombing in 5 minutes. 
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Originally Posted By R2point0: The best predictor of a former colony's success is the nationality of the colonizers. Basically the only colonies that have been successful have been British colonies, though it's not 100%. Next best is Spain and Portugal, which are still generally shitholes but have fared better than the French and Belgian colonies. Chinese Jamaicans. Middleman minority. significantly successful. |
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Originally Posted By R2point0: The best predictor of a former colony's success is the nationality of the colonizers. Basically the only colonies that have been successful have been British colonies, though it's not 100%. Next best is Spain and Portugal, which are still generally shitholes but have fared better than the French and Belgian colonies. Originally Posted By R2point0: Originally Posted By Dissident: Originally Posted By byron2112: As with everything I blame France Why? I agree with the premise but would put former US colonies above British. |
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Originally Posted By Mblades: I agree with the premise but would put former US colonies above British. *WE* are the most successful British colony. |
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Originally Posted By R2point0: Liberia? Pretty sure that's the only colony established by the United States. *WE* are the most successful British colony. Originally Posted By R2point0: Originally Posted By Mblades: I agree with the premise but would put former US colonies above British. *WE* are the most successful British colony. I was thinking the Philippians, Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands and Hawaii but I guess we didn’t establish those and never called Hawaii a colony but a “territory” |
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Originally Posted By R2point0: The funny thing is that, post WWII, the only reason anyone has intervened in Haiti is "humanitarian." Haitians are so horrible to each other that other countries have felt compelled to go in to protect them from themselves. That's it. Haiti has no resources anyone wants, they aren't strategically important, the only thing they export is refugees. There is no reason for the rest of the world to pay any attention to Haiti at all, respectfully or not. I can see an effort to help DR protect their border, and keeping Haitian "refugees" out. Other than that? Change the map to "Who?" and totally ignore them. Not true, they DO have resources that some people want. 1. Votes 2. Human trafficking 3. Crime statistic generators |
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Originally Posted By LV1976: Paradoxically, every single action ever taken to try to help Haiti has made things even worse. It is a chinese finger puzzle on a global scale. The only way to help Haiti is to do nothing. The trouble with Haiti is that it's full of Haitians. |
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Originally Posted By LV1976: Paradoxically, every single action ever taken to try to help Haiti has made things even worse. It is a chinese finger puzzle on a global scale. The only way to help Haiti is to do nothing. This, since you can't get past the corruption at all levels to start with, to do to any good no mater what you do or throw money at them. Ukraine is the same way since it became independent, but since we signed the Budapest memorandum to de-nuke them/ get all their nuke materials for pennies on the dollars at the time to use in the USA for nuclear power plants to run them on the cheap, why we need to defend them now (with money/arms, and not direct troop support). |
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'Twas not the <cough> sweet and innocent <cough> PlaymoreMinds...
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'Twas not the <cough> sweet and innocent <cough> PlaymoreMinds...
<---skips away in frilly skirts to Candyland, leaving gutters and snorkels FAR behind.