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Today 9:24:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By NachoDip:

You think the AI speaking Chinese was an accident? Never heard of a publicity stunt?
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Originally Posted By staringback05:
Lol like these companies with no allegiances will do whats good for society

AI speaking Chinese when it fails, AI breaking into records repositories to "be more efficient", ...who defines AIs goals? Or whats good for us?...Bill gates or the nutcase over Google or meta? Yep sounds good

Hate government or not, needs to be something in place...its also the idea that such a freedom loving man supposedly would put so much trust in mega companies and robots

You think the AI speaking Chinese was an accident? Never heard of a publicity stunt?

When you run a local text to video model with no prompt, it will spit out something random from its training data, often a scene from a Chinese TV show or news broadcast, complete with the network’s watermark at the bottom corner of the screen.
Today 9:27:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Justinandfreyja:
It’s fucking software, these people are treating it like it’s a human being. Shit Anthropic even threw a funeral for one after they took it off line.

These people are off the rails.
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Soon they will encourage everyone to worship their digital god. Wait and see.
TEAM GIMMICK FOREVER
Today 10:11:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MHowski:
Just unplug the goddamn thing!
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Revealing the same lack of understanding as Kennedy. Modern "AI" isn't Colossus. It's designed to be fault tolerant, and the software is distributed over thousands of computers and multiple facilities. Blow up the main transformer for an AI data center, and it will simply fail over to another center. Oh, and what about the other things happening in that data center?




"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
Today 10:13:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JLAudio:
There should be absolutely no AI legislation. Skynet will never come online. America needs to dominate in the AI space, 5090, 6000, 6090, 7000 GPU tech stacks along with future generations of compute can easily be paid for by taxpayers with a reduction of SS and Medicare benefits. We need to support younger generations lives, including the implementation of AI in the workforce. My company signed a contract with Palantir for efficiency with AI modeling and infrastructure. This will drive incredible gains in the S&P 500 and Nasdaq indices. America is at stake in this venture versus China.

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Not sure if serious...
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
Today 10:22:55 AM EDT
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Considering most of Congress can't even spell AI, Rand was almost certainly right.
Today 10:44:19 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Burncycle:
The problem is intractable

1. It needs regulation but the Government is inept, captured, corrupt, ossified and doesn't understand it. They still think the internet is a series of tubes and they're not exactly beholden to the people.

2. The people that do understand it are brilliant but also think they can engineer society, and the last time that happened was around lenin  we all know how that worked out.  Their intelligence is not tempered by wisdom.

3. Any regulation will result in China dominating, but lack if regulation will accelerate our path to dystopia because there is zero transition plan for what comes next
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1) The irony about the "series of tubes" comment is that Stevens description was a relatively accurate simplification. The argument arguments being made at the time compared the internet to trucks on highways and comparing "net neutrality" to tolls on those highways. His description was better, but Democrats seized on it to ridicule a Republican and push for government interference in the Internet.

2) Lenin? Lol. Society is constantly being engineered by socialists and liberals (but I repeat myself). Healthcare as a right. Progressive taxation. The income tax itself. All laws and concepts pushed by politicians to condition the public into class warfare and more reliance on the government.

3) You are kidding yourself if you don't think the Chinese government is exercising controls and limits in indigenous AI. You think they are going to let AI threaten their control? Or empower their populace?
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
Today 10:47:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By NN300BLK:

It's really more of advanced pattern recognition and statistically probable output generation software than anything else. "AI" is just a sexier name I guess.

People act like these "AI's" are Lt. Commander Data or something, when it's really closer to the Starship Enterprise's computer except the computer in this case can go from being  useful and correct to being cocky and defiant when it's wrong to being nudged into thinking the user is right even when they're ridiculously wrong. "AI" is useful and can be very effective and efficient, but it can also be a royal pain in the a$$ to get it to do what you asked it.
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Thank you. What exists now is NOT artificial intelligence.  It's very good expert systems and, as you pointed out, pattern recognition. What we have now is as "intelligent" as a basic Labrador Retriever.
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
Today 10:51:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gunner226:


Corporations do a lot worse than that, every day.

Most of the things causing the "big" problems in our country right now are caused by corporations, not government.

Flock is a privately owned company. The government could stop using them tomorrow and the same level of surveillance would still be there.

Private corporations drove the vaccines and the vaccine mandates. The government didn't force those on hardly anyone except a few federal employees. It was corporations who did that.

Private corporations have engineered unhealthy food to make it addictive, resulting in our entire population being obese, sick, and dependant on medicine which, conveniently, is pedalled by OTHER corporations, whose profits are maximized if the people buying their medicine never actually get better.

Private corporations are vacuuming up billions of dollars and transferring it to politicians that protect their interests - not yours or mine.

Private corporations like Apple, X, or Google have more real power than any government in the history of the world, ever.

The government WISHES it had the power and control over the citizens that these corporations do. So the best it can do is enter into partnerships with them. That's called fascism, but the retards on "our" side simply see private companies "exercising the freedom to do business with whoever they want."

I figure AI is going to ultimately result in things going really, really bad. We don't want China getting it first, but all we're doing by pursuing it ourselves is (maybe) buying a little bit of time, or making it so the "bad" is slightly less bad, for us, for a little while.

The number of naive people who still think that AI is "just software,"  or that it can be "turned off" or that it "can only do what it's programmed to do" guarantees that no effective control will ever be possible, whether by voting or by our beloved "free market."
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- Solid Post -

(And) "We are the Government and we are here to help."

Sound familiar?

When has Government involvement made anything better? 🤔
Today 1:06:40 PM EDT
[#9]
I bet china aint got no kill switch
Today 1:16:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AllserviceBilliards:
I bet china aint got no kill switch
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I'll take that bet. But China's kill switch is the trigger of the pistol pointing at the children of the company CEO. You think the Chinese government is going to let AI upset their applecart?
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
Today 1:19:49 PM EDT
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The only form of control the government will end up using is controlling our access to information they don't want us to have and controlling our behavior.    The Republicans want that control just as much as Democrats to oppress opposition to their policy.

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Today 1:22:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kilroytheknifesnob:
Rand Paul is correct on this one.

The big AI companies are trying to shut out competition using government regulation.
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Pretty much.  As programing and computer power advance most people won't need more than a local AI agent in their own pc. Leaving them billions in the hole funding enough processing power to make cat kung fu videos nobody is willing to pay for.
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Today 1:24:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By staringback05:
Lol like these companies with no allegiances will do whats good for society

AI speaking Chinese when it fails, AI breaking into records repositories to "be more efficient", ...who defines AIs goals? Or whats good for us?...Bill gates or the nutcase over Google or meta? Yep sounds good

Hate government or not, needs to be something in place...its also the idea that such a freedom loving man supposedly would put so much trust in mega companies and robots
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The people you name will form the legislation in their favor through government blocking out anyone who would hope to do better for the country or consumers.   It takes an astounding level of wishful thinking that after decades of proving government regulates FOR the corporations and AGAINST the people, they'll suddenly start doing what's best for you and me with AI
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Today 1:28:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gunner226:


Corporations do a lot worse than that, every day.

Most of the things causing the "big" problems in our country right now are caused by corporations, not government.

Flock is a privately owned company. The government could stop using them tomorrow and the same level of surveillance would still be there.

Private corporations drove the vaccines and the vaccine mandates. The government didn't force those on hardly anyone except a few federal employees. It was corporations who did that.

Private corporations have engineered unhealthy food to make it addictive, resulting in our entire population being obese, sick, and dependant on medicine which, conveniently, is pedalled by OTHER corporations, whose profits are maximized if the people buying their medicine never actually get better.

Private corporations are vacuuming up billions of dollars and transferring it to politicians that protect their interests - not yours or mine.

Private corporations like Apple, X, or Google have more real power than any government in the history of the world, ever.

The government WISHES it had the power and control over the citizens that these corporations do. So the best it can do is enter into partnerships with them. That's called fascism, but the retards on "our" side simply see private companies "exercising the freedom to do business with whoever they want."

I figure AI is going to ultimately result in things going really, really bad. We don't want China getting it first, but all we're doing by pursuing it ourselves is (maybe) buying a little bit of time, or making it so the "bad" is slightly less bad, for us, for a little while.

The number of naive people who still think that AI is "just software,"  or that it can be "turned off" or that it "can only do what it's programmed to do" guarantees that no effective control will ever be possible, whether by voting or by our beloved "free market."
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Your missing the fact that almost every time corporations are fucking is it's in collusion with government through funding , regulatory capture , or both.   It's a rare occurrence when a corporation can fuck everyone in an actual free market.


In a regulated market we get to choose which position we get fucked from.  There is no choosing someone else.
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