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Most of the shooting of non targeted species I remember is old guys shooting horses or cattle because they're eyes suck or inexperienced hunters shooting at motion or sound. Last two locally that stand our to me was a kid shoo shooting at sound through heavy cover and a dad shooting and rustling brush and killing his own kid. Basic rules and admitting it's time to hang it up would prevent most hunting accidents. |
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Originally Posted By KILLERB6: Good for 3 or 4 additional charges: out of season, poaching, etc. Originally Posted By KILLERB6: Originally Posted By MHowski: Not for deer with any kind of firearm. Delaware I think is archery season now. |
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Originally Posted By rhill: A quick internet search reveals there are about 61 hunting related deaths per year. This includes things like falling out of tree stands. No, it does not happen a lot. Yes, there are morons who shoot at sounds or vague movements. I personally knew a man who had buckshot embedded right against his spine for the rest of his life because some inbred Neanderthal shot him while he was field dressing a deer literally in the middle of an open field. Inbred booger-eating banjo picker said he fired "Cuz I seen antlers." The man he shot was wearing a blaze orange full-body jumpsuit. Yes it happens. Yes idiots are out there. No it's not common. |
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I knew a guy that shot his own father in the leg with a 30/06. He almost died from blood loss. I asked him about it once and he got mad that I brought it up. Just saw the above post about people dying from falls. A friend of my father went hunting with us at my cousins and fell out of a stand about 12-15 feet high. We found him and called an ambulance. Didn’t break anything, just bruised up. At the hospital he learned he had cancer and it had spread. Died about 3 months later. |
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May not be frequent but it still happens too often. Morgan Co, GA a family friend was shot and killed by his nephew who thought he was a deer. One of the saddest funerals I have ever attended. The family forgave the young man which is far better than how I would have handled it. |
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Originally Posted By PacNW5: I love shooting but am not a big hunter at all. Does this happen often? A quick google search says an average of 61 hunting fatalities per year for around the last 15 years, but that includes events like tree stand falls and not just firearm discharges. https://ammo.com/research/hunting-accident-statistics |
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Originally Posted By DmacRTCo: No it doesn’t. Hunting accidents are statistical anomalies. There is a reason hunter orange became mandatory in a number of states, and it was not statistical anomalies It’s also why hunter education is required. These have cut the numbers down drastically. But it used to be very bad |
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Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: RIP, condolences to the family. Yeah, be sure of target is a rule. Why are families walking through the woods during hunting season? Why was he hunting land that had families in it? Because the woods belong to everyone, not just hunters - unless you’re on private property. I’m a hunter and I’ve had hunters and non-hunters show up miles from the nearest road…. |
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Originally Posted By DistanceX: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/340401/1000012818_png-3830305.JPG Legal. |
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Originally Posted By Monsterbishi: Not sure if serious or just misinformed? Originally Posted By Monsterbishi: Originally Posted By DmacRTCo: Originally Posted By Monsterbishi: Happens entirely too often :-( No it doesn’t. Hunting accidents are statistical anomalies. Not sure if serious or just misinformed? I doubt it's more than 100 nationwide per year. What's the statistic? Gun deaths, all deaths, accidental deaths? |
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Originally Posted By DmacRTCo: No it doesn’t. Hunting accidents are statistical anomalies. Typically happens a couple times every year. Compared to how many people are out hunting every season yes, a very rare statistical anomaly, but it does keep happening several times every deer hunting season. To the people and families involved it's not a statistic but a tragedy for everyone involved. |
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Originally Posted By Vne: Happens literally all the time. I can't tell you how many times I've mistaken people for deer. I'll have the perfect site picture on them, finger on the trigger, vibrating with excitement, and all of a sudden the deer takes a drag off a cigarette. Wtf? Deer don't do tha... Dammit, it's another human! Please give up hunting. Sounds like this guy in the story was like you until he got old. |
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Originally Posted By WildBoar: Please give up hunting. Sounds like this guy in the story was like you until he got old. Originally Posted By WildBoar: Originally Posted By Vne: Happens literally all the time. I can't tell you how many times I've mistaken people for deer. I'll have the perfect site picture on them, finger on the trigger, vibrating with excitement, and all of a sudden the deer takes a drag off a cigarette. Wtf? Deer don't do tha... Dammit, it's another human! Please give up hunting. Sounds like this guy in the story was like you until he got old. 
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Originally Posted By dorobuta: There is a reason hunter orange became mandatory in a number of states, and it was not statistical anomalies It’s also why hunter education is required. These have cut the numbers down drastically. But it used to be very bad QFT. Accidents would be in the hundreds per year for some states. I always liked the old-school Pennsylvania Game Comission posters telling you not to shoot other hunters. |
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Originally Posted By Sub_Arctic_Son:  It's very rare that this happens. There are only around 60 hunting fatalities every year, and the majority of those are either self inflicted, or hitting someone else in the hunting party due to unsafe firearm handling. It's highly unusual that a hunter intentionally pulls the trigger on someone mistaking them for wild game. Went to find the data you’re quoting, and it appears that 60 is the total all cause hunting deaths. Firearms and tree stand falls were ranked equally at just over 10% each, so about 6-7 hunting related firearm deaths annually. https://ammo.com/research/hunting-accident-statistics |
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Originally Posted By INI: Is it even hunting season in that locale right now? It is not any type of firearm season now. He could have been hunting under the Deer Damage Assistance Program DDAP for farm crops etc. I don't the specifics of that though. I believe that leaves us just around two possible scenarios. |
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Originally Posted By Windustsearch: 61 hunting related deaths and probably hundreds of people shot who live through it. Originally Posted By Windustsearch: Originally Posted By rhill: A quick internet search reveals there are about 61 hunting related deaths per year. This includes things like falling out of tree stands. No, it does not happen a lot. Yes, there are morons who shoot at sounds or vague movements. I personally knew a man who had buckshot embedded right against his spine for the rest of his life because some inbred Neanderthal shot him while he was field dressing a deer literally in the middle of an open field. Inbred booger-eating banjo picker said he fired "Cuz I seen antlers." The man he shot was wearing a blaze orange full-body jumpsuit. Yes it happens. Yes idiots are out there. No it's not common. Not unless they’re not reporting it and going without treatment. |
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Originally Posted By WildBoar: Please give up hunting. Sounds like this guy in the story was like you until he got old. Nah. Safety is my middle name. I've never once shot anybody. I always zoom my scope all the way in on their face to make sure they're not a deer in disguise. I've also become a lot less jittery ever since I started drinking in my tree stand. A couple of stiff Wild Turkeys really calms me down. Plus, when I start seeing double it gives me double the chance to check my target. |
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Originally Posted By DmacRTCo: No it doesn’t. Hunting accidents are statistical anomalies. True story. Opening day in PA is immediately followed in the paper with a number of deaths reported. Mostly heart attacks, fell off a cliff and what have you. Shooting deaths are rare. |
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Originally Posted By GordonFreeman1: Does this happen often? Is that a serious question? No. |
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Originally Posted By ScopeScar: I doubt it's more than 100 nationwide per year. What's the statistic? Gun deaths, all deaths, accidental deaths? Originally Posted By ScopeScar: Originally Posted By Monsterbishi: Originally Posted By DmacRTCo: Originally Posted By Monsterbishi: Happens entirely too often :-( No it doesn’t. Hunting accidents are statistical anomalies. Not sure if serious or just misinformed? I doubt it's more than 100 nationwide per year. What's the statistic? Gun deaths, all deaths, accidental deaths? What are you trying to convince yourself? |
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Originally Posted By tac556: Guess why hunter orange exists? Because of way too many incidents like this over the years. Never wear tan/brown colored clothes in the woods during deer season… When I was in high school, a guy in a nearby county got shot in the ass while wearing hunter orange. He was sitting on a stump and bent over to tie his boots. Some dumbass saw him and thought he was a bear because they could only see his dark brown wool pants or whatever. (Never mind that it wasn't even bear season at the time...) More recently, I was using binos to glass some antelope down in a shallow draw. I noticed a dude on the opposite slope of the draw, wearing a minimal amount of orange, and glassing me.... with the fucking scope on his rifle. (I wasn't directly in line with the animals, so it was pretty obvious that he intentionally had me in his sights). Wanting to make sure the idiot realized I was actually a human, I stood up and jumped up and down waving my arms. This caused the antelope to run off. The dude looked pissed, but fuck him. |
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Originally Posted By dorobuta: Because the woods belong to everyone, not just hunters - unless you're on private property. I'm a hunter and I've had hunters and non-hunters show up miles from the nearest road . Originally Posted By dorobuta: Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: RIP, condolences to the family. Yeah, be sure of target is a rule. Why are families walking through the woods during hunting season? Why was he hunting land that had families in it? Because the woods belong to everyone, not just hunters - unless you're on private property. I'm a hunter and I've had hunters and non-hunters show up miles from the nearest road . |
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Is there a rifle season for deer in Delaware in September? Is that where some of the charges came from? Poaching and hit a human? I didn't read any more than was posted here. For the record, my cousin lit up my uncle, his dad, while turkey hunting. Luckily, it was far enough away that the shot spread out and didn't penetrate much. He took it all in the arm and the side of his body. My cousin was so broken up over doing it, he couldn't drive the truck and my uncle drove himself to the ER. My cousin had to go to hunter education classes for a few years to tell his story. |
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Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: They do. But for 2 weeks out of the year, we stay the fuck out of the woods. Just isn't worth it. The various hunting seasons in my area now amount to four months out of the year It's getting some non-hunters a little upset |
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Originally Posted By Vne: Nah. Safety is my middle name. I've never once shot anybody. I always zoom my scope all the way in on their face to make sure they're not a deer in disguise. I've also become a lot less jittery ever since I started drinking in my tree stand. A couple of stiff Wild Turkeys really calms me down. Plus, when I start seeing double it gives me double the chance to check my target. Right on. Sorry for the shit comment |
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Hunters shooting at sounds. I used to deer hunt when I was younger. I avoided modern gun season for reasons like this. I preferred bow season or primitive gun/muzzle loading because there were fewer asshats to contend with. |
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Originally Posted By piccolo: True story. Opening day in PA is immediately followed in the paper with a number of deaths reported. Mostly heart attacks, fell off a cliff and what have you. Shooting deaths are rare. Walked out the back of his cabin, climbed the hill to his stand. Heart attack. He was probably around 70 years old. My older relatives told a story about an accident that happened at the neighboring camp back in the late 60's Guys had a Luckily it missed everyone else still in the bed of a truck, and the only thing that saved the driver from getting shot was it was an old truck with the gas tank behind the seat, and the tank was full. Various layers of metal and a few inches of gasoline were enough to cause the bullet to enter the seat but not exit it. ETA:: Talked to dad, got the corrected story.  |
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Originally Posted By Trailboss: I was working a deer check station at an old country store in the mountains of VA while in college, and a nimrod showed up mid-morning on opening day and was wanting to buy a box of 'thuty-thuty'. The men sitting around the coal stove asked him if he got any deer and he said all he had were 'sound shots'. He'd hear some rustling behind the rhododendron bushes and blast away but never found anything when he went to check. He ran out of ammo. Another nimrod said he had a couple of them also. I never deer hunted opening day of rifle season on public lands since then. I also stay way away from thickets of rhododendron, palmetto, etc. unless we're loudly chasing rabbits or hogs with dogs. Literally never heard anyone in my life say they took or knew of anyone who shot at sounds. Or even a story of someone doing that But I hunt in the west |
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