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Yesterday 3:38:53 PM EDT
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I dated a couple chicks back in the day that had Ford Mustangs, those cars are basically a purse with little bit of horsepower. Definitely cute though.
Yesterday 3:41:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CashOnlyLargeBills][Edited] [#2]
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Originally Posted By EDDIECRUM:

The chassis was altered by FORD under a DOMESTIC SPECIAL ORDER specifically for the GT350. Ford built the chassis, not Shelby. It left the FORD plant specifically for the GT350. None of these chassis were used in any other Mustangs. From day one, before Shelby got the chassis, it was a GT350. Please bend the knee and admit you learned something today. You are not ignorant but very much uninformed about the facts.
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Originally Posted By EDDIECRUM:
Originally Posted By CashOnlyLargeBills:
Originally Posted By Bigtwin:
Ha
Originally Posted By CashOnlyLargeBills:
Originally Posted By EDDIECRUM:
Originally Posted By CashOnlyLargeBills:
Its not even close to stock. Shelby heavily modified it, and only sold it through approved dealers.

Authorized by Henry Ford ll and sold at Ford dealers.



Still not a "stock" car.

Hate to break it to you , yes it's a stock car....sold as new! Don't matter what company sold it!

Saying it's not stock is like saying the inline six cylinder is the only engine that was stock on a Mustang.



I hate to break it to you but, no. Shelby Mustangs are not considered “stock” Mustangs. They are "high-performance" variants that started as Mustangs and received significant modifications by Carroll Shelby / Shelby American. Haggerty and the Peterson Museum have defined what a "stock" car is. "A stock Mustang is one that remains as it left the Ford factory".

Mecum and Barret Jackson treat Shelby Mustangs as their own category for a reason.

The chassis was altered by FORD under a DOMESTIC SPECIAL ORDER specifically for the GT350. Ford built the chassis, not Shelby. It left the FORD plant specifically for the GT350. None of these chassis were used in any other Mustangs. From day one, before Shelby got the chassis, it was a GT350. Please bend the knee and admit you learned something today. You are not ignorant but very much uninformed about the facts.


I am not the ignorant or uninformed one. Haggerty, Peterson Museum, Mecum, and Barret Jackson all consider the Shelby Mustangs as a different category than "stock" Mustangs. You aren't arguing with me, you are arguing with the authoritive institutions.

edit: even a search on google, chatGPT, or Grok says they aren't considered "stock" Mustangs...

Grok:
No. Shelby Mustangs are not considered “stock” Mustangs. They are high-performance variants that started as (or were based on) Ford Mustangs and received significant modifications by Carroll Shelby / Shelby American (or, in later years, by Ford in collaboration with Shelby).
Historical context

1965–1966 GT350s: Ford shipped specially prepared Mustangs (mostly K-code 289 Hi-Po fastbacks from the San Jose plant, often in Wimbledon White) to Shelby American. Shelby then performed the real work—engine upgrades (Holley carb, high-rise intake, headers, etc., raising output to ~306 hp), suspension and chassis changes, brakes, fiberglass hood, weight reduction, stripes, badges, and other hardware. These were purpose-built to be more race-oriented than a regular Mustang.
Later 1960s models (GT500, etc.): Similar process, with bigger engines (e.g., 428) and further body/styling changes. By the late 1960s some production shifted more toward Ford, but they remained distinct from base Mustangs.
Modern era: Some (like certain Ford-built GT500s or GT350s) were factory performance models using the Shelby name under license. Others are “post-title” conversions—stock Mustangs sent to Shelby American (or authorized shops) for superchargers, suspension, body kits, exhaust, wheels, and other upgrades after the car already has a title.

In short, the defining characteristic of a Shelby Mustang is that it is not a regular production Mustang; the Shelby treatment is what makes it a Shelby.
What “stock” usually means
In automotive and collector contexts:

A stock Mustang is one that remains as it left the Ford factory (or with only period-correct, reversible options).
A stock Shelby means a genuine Shelby that retains its original Shelby-era equipment and configuration, without later owner-added aftermarket parts. Originality is highly valued (and heavily scrutinized for authenticity because replicas and clones exist).

Collectors, historians, and auction houses treat authentic Shelbys as their own category of high-value specialty cars precisely because of those modifications and the Shelby pedigree. Calling them “stock” would erase the very thing that defines them.
So while a well-preserved original Shelby can be described as “stock for a Shelby,” it is never considered a stock Mustang.


Google:
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Yesterday 4:04:13 PM EDT
[#3]
You know you can make LLM agents argue for any point you want to make?
Tom Sawyer.

"If The Rules brought us to this, what use are they?"
Yesterday 4:57:46 PM EDT
[#4]
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Originally Posted By CashOnlyLargeBills:


I am not the ignorant or uninformed one. Haggerty, Peterson Museum, Mecum, and Barret Jackson all consider the Shelby Mustangs as a different category than "stock" Mustangs. You aren't arguing with me, you are arguing with the authoritive institutions.

edit: even a search on google, chatGPT, or Grok says they aren't considered "stock" Mustangs...

Grok:


Google:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/596909/shelby_png-3830706.JPG
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Originally Posted By CashOnlyLargeBills:
Originally Posted By EDDIECRUM:
Originally Posted By CashOnlyLargeBills:
Originally Posted By Bigtwin:
Ha
Originally Posted By CashOnlyLargeBills:
Originally Posted By EDDIECRUM:
Originally Posted By CashOnlyLargeBills:
Its not even close to stock. Shelby heavily modified it, and only sold it through approved dealers.

Authorized by Henry Ford ll and sold at Ford dealers.



Still not a "stock" car.

Hate to break it to you , yes it's a stock car....sold as new! Don't matter what company sold it!

Saying it's not stock is like saying the inline six cylinder is the only engine that was stock on a Mustang.



I hate to break it to you but, no. Shelby Mustangs are not considered “stock” Mustangs. They are "high-performance" variants that started as Mustangs and received significant modifications by Carroll Shelby / Shelby American. Haggerty and the Peterson Museum have defined what a "stock" car is. "A stock Mustang is one that remains as it left the Ford factory".

Mecum and Barret Jackson treat Shelby Mustangs as their own category for a reason.

The chassis was altered by FORD under a DOMESTIC SPECIAL ORDER specifically for the GT350. Ford built the chassis, not Shelby. It left the FORD plant specifically for the GT350. None of these chassis were used in any other Mustangs. From day one, before Shelby got the chassis, it was a GT350. Please bend the knee and admit you learned something today. You are not ignorant but very much uninformed about the facts.


I am not the ignorant or uninformed one. Haggerty, Peterson Museum, Mecum, and Barret Jackson all consider the Shelby Mustangs as a different category than "stock" Mustangs. You aren't arguing with me, you are arguing with the authoritive institutions.

edit: even a search on google, chatGPT, or Grok says they aren't considered "stock" Mustangs...

Grok:
No. Shelby Mustangs are not considered “stock” Mustangs. They are high-performance variants that started as (or were based on) Ford Mustangs and received significant modifications by Carroll Shelby / Shelby American (or, in later years, by Ford in collaboration with Shelby).
Historical context

1965–1966 GT350s: Ford shipped specially prepared Mustangs (mostly K-code 289 Hi-Po fastbacks from the San Jose plant, often in Wimbledon White) to Shelby American. Shelby then performed the real work—engine upgrades (Holley carb, high-rise intake, headers, etc., raising output to ~306 hp), suspension and chassis changes, brakes, fiberglass hood, weight reduction, stripes, badges, and other hardware. These were purpose-built to be more race-oriented than a regular Mustang.
Later 1960s models (GT500, etc.): Similar process, with bigger engines (e.g., 428) and further body/styling changes. By the late 1960s some production shifted more toward Ford, but they remained distinct from base Mustangs.
Modern era: Some (like certain Ford-built GT500s or GT350s) were factory performance models using the Shelby name under license. Others are “post-title” conversions—stock Mustangs sent to Shelby American (or authorized shops) for superchargers, suspension, body kits, exhaust, wheels, and other upgrades after the car already has a title.

In short, the defining characteristic of a Shelby Mustang is that it is not a regular production Mustang; the Shelby treatment is what makes it a Shelby.
What “stock” usually means
In automotive and collector contexts:

A stock Mustang is one that remains as it left the Ford factory (or with only period-correct, reversible options).
A stock Shelby means a genuine Shelby that retains its original Shelby-era equipment and configuration, without later owner-added aftermarket parts. Originality is highly valued (and heavily scrutinized for authenticity because replicas and clones exist).

Collectors, historians, and auction houses treat authentic Shelbys as their own category of high-value specialty cars precisely because of those modifications and the Shelby pedigree. Calling them “stock” would erase the very thing that defines them.
So while a well-preserved original Shelby can be described as “stock for a Shelby,” it is never considered a stock Mustang.


Google:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/596909/shelby_png-3830706.JPG

Well we certainly disagree however we can still be friendly with each other and I appreciate your opinion based on knowledge you believe in.
Yesterday 4:58:44 PM EDT
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Yesterday 5:01:04 PM EDT
[#6]
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Originally Posted By redfish86:
I’m pretty partial to my Camaro.

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This is the day she was delivered, with all of 150 miles on the clock.  She looks a bit more “broken in” nowadays.
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I'm not a Chevy guy in the least, but that's badass.
Grandfathering weapons only puts off until tomorrow what tyranny cannot accomplish today.

The only people made safer by gun control are criminals and tyrants.
Yesterday 5:07:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GUNSAP:
I dated a couple chicks back in the day that had Ford Mustangs, those cars are basically a purse with little bit of horsepower. Definitely cute though.
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a stock ‘60’s mustang at its limit, especially with a 289HO motor, is scary as hell.
-Women should always wear tight clothes and men should carry powerful handguns
Yesterday 5:13:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

I'm not a Chevy guy in the least, but that's badass.
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Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
Originally Posted By redfish86:
I’m pretty partial to my Camaro.

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This is the day she was delivered, with all of 150 miles on the clock.  She looks a bit more “broken in” nowadays.

I'm not a Chevy guy in the least, but that's badass.



Thank you.  She looks a little different now.
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Happiness is the greatest agent of purification

Bikini Bottoms underneath, but the boys hearts still skip a beat, when them girls shimmy off, them old cut offs
Yesterday 5:25:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CashOnlyLargeBills][Edited] [#9]
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Originally Posted By EDDIECRUM:

Well we certainly disagree however we can still be friendly with each other and I appreciate your opinion based on knowledge you believe in.
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Originally Posted By EDDIECRUM:
Originally Posted By CashOnlyLargeBills:
Originally Posted By EDDIECRUM:
Originally Posted By CashOnlyLargeBills:
Originally Posted By Bigtwin:
Ha
Originally Posted By CashOnlyLargeBills:
Originally Posted By EDDIECRUM:
Originally Posted By CashOnlyLargeBills:
Its not even close to stock. Shelby heavily modified it, and only sold it through approved dealers.

Authorized by Henry Ford ll and sold at Ford dealers.



Still not a "stock" car.

Hate to break it to you , yes it's a stock car....sold as new! Don't matter what company sold it!

Saying it's not stock is like saying the inline six cylinder is the only engine that was stock on a Mustang.



I hate to break it to you but, no. Shelby Mustangs are not considered “stock” Mustangs. They are "high-performance" variants that started as Mustangs and received significant modifications by Carroll Shelby / Shelby American. Haggerty and the Peterson Museum have defined what a "stock" car is. "A stock Mustang is one that remains as it left the Ford factory".

Mecum and Barret Jackson treat Shelby Mustangs as their own category for a reason.

The chassis was altered by FORD under a DOMESTIC SPECIAL ORDER specifically for the GT350. Ford built the chassis, not Shelby. It left the FORD plant specifically for the GT350. None of these chassis were used in any other Mustangs. From day one, before Shelby got the chassis, it was a GT350. Please bend the knee and admit you learned something today. You are not ignorant but very much uninformed about the facts.


I am not the ignorant or uninformed one. Haggerty, Peterson Museum, Mecum, and Barret Jackson all consider the Shelby Mustangs as a different category than "stock" Mustangs. You aren't arguing with me, you are arguing with the authoritive institutions.

edit: even a search on google, chatGPT, or Grok says they aren't considered "stock" Mustangs...

Grok:
No. Shelby Mustangs are not considered “stock” Mustangs. They are high-performance variants that started as (or were based on) Ford Mustangs and received significant modifications by Carroll Shelby / Shelby American (or, in later years, by Ford in collaboration with Shelby).
Historical context

1965–1966 GT350s: Ford shipped specially prepared Mustangs (mostly K-code 289 Hi-Po fastbacks from the San Jose plant, often in Wimbledon White) to Shelby American. Shelby then performed the real work—engine upgrades (Holley carb, high-rise intake, headers, etc., raising output to ~306 hp), suspension and chassis changes, brakes, fiberglass hood, weight reduction, stripes, badges, and other hardware. These were purpose-built to be more race-oriented than a regular Mustang.
Later 1960s models (GT500, etc.): Similar process, with bigger engines (e.g., 428) and further body/styling changes. By the late 1960s some production shifted more toward Ford, but they remained distinct from base Mustangs.
Modern era: Some (like certain Ford-built GT500s or GT350s) were factory performance models using the Shelby name under license. Others are “post-title” conversions—stock Mustangs sent to Shelby American (or authorized shops) for superchargers, suspension, body kits, exhaust, wheels, and other upgrades after the car already has a title.

In short, the defining characteristic of a Shelby Mustang is that it is not a regular production Mustang; the Shelby treatment is what makes it a Shelby.
What “stock” usually means
In automotive and collector contexts:

A stock Mustang is one that remains as it left the Ford factory (or with only period-correct, reversible options).
A stock Shelby means a genuine Shelby that retains its original Shelby-era equipment and configuration, without later owner-added aftermarket parts. Originality is highly valued (and heavily scrutinized for authenticity because replicas and clones exist).

Collectors, historians, and auction houses treat authentic Shelbys as their own category of high-value specialty cars precisely because of those modifications and the Shelby pedigree. Calling them “stock” would erase the very thing that defines them.
So while a well-preserved original Shelby can be described as “stock for a Shelby,” it is never considered a stock Mustang.


Google:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/596909/shelby_png-3830706.JPG

Well we certainly disagree however we can still be friendly with each other and I appreciate your opinion based on knowledge you believe in.



I appreciate your friendliness.  Agreeing to disagree.

We do agree that Shelby Mustangs are very sexy however.
Yesterday 5:29:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CashOnlyLargeBills:



I appreciate your friendliness.  Agreeing to disagree.

We do agree that Shelby Mustangs are very sexy however.
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Originally Posted By CashOnlyLargeBills:
Originally Posted By EDDIECRUM:
Originally Posted By CashOnlyLargeBills:
Originally Posted By EDDIECRUM:
Originally Posted By CashOnlyLargeBills:
Originally Posted By Bigtwin:
Ha
Originally Posted By CashOnlyLargeBills:
Originally Posted By EDDIECRUM:
Originally Posted By CashOnlyLargeBills:
Its not even close to stock. Shelby heavily modified it, and only sold it through approved dealers.

Authorized by Henry Ford ll and sold at Ford dealers.



Still not a "stock" car.

Hate to break it to you , yes it's a stock car....sold as new! Don't matter what company sold it!

Saying it's not stock is like saying the inline six cylinder is the only engine that was stock on a Mustang.



I hate to break it to you but, no. Shelby Mustangs are not considered “stock” Mustangs. They are "high-performance" variants that started as Mustangs and received significant modifications by Carroll Shelby / Shelby American. Haggerty and the Peterson Museum have defined what a "stock" car is. "A stock Mustang is one that remains as it left the Ford factory".

Mecum and Barret Jackson treat Shelby Mustangs as their own category for a reason.

The chassis was altered by FORD under a DOMESTIC SPECIAL ORDER specifically for the GT350. Ford built the chassis, not Shelby. It left the FORD plant specifically for the GT350. None of these chassis were used in any other Mustangs. From day one, before Shelby got the chassis, it was a GT350. Please bend the knee and admit you learned something today. You are not ignorant but very much uninformed about the facts.


I am not the ignorant or uninformed one. Haggerty, Peterson Museum, Mecum, and Barret Jackson all consider the Shelby Mustangs as a different category than "stock" Mustangs. You aren't arguing with me, you are arguing with the authoritive institutions.

edit: even a search on google, chatGPT, or Grok says they aren't considered "stock" Mustangs...

Grok:
No. Shelby Mustangs are not considered “stock” Mustangs. They are high-performance variants that started as (or were based on) Ford Mustangs and received significant modifications by Carroll Shelby / Shelby American (or, in later years, by Ford in collaboration with Shelby).
Historical context

1965–1966 GT350s: Ford shipped specially prepared Mustangs (mostly K-code 289 Hi-Po fastbacks from the San Jose plant, often in Wimbledon White) to Shelby American. Shelby then performed the real work—engine upgrades (Holley carb, high-rise intake, headers, etc., raising output to ~306 hp), suspension and chassis changes, brakes, fiberglass hood, weight reduction, stripes, badges, and other hardware. These were purpose-built to be more race-oriented than a regular Mustang.
Later 1960s models (GT500, etc.): Similar process, with bigger engines (e.g., 428) and further body/styling changes. By the late 1960s some production shifted more toward Ford, but they remained distinct from base Mustangs.
Modern era: Some (like certain Ford-built GT500s or GT350s) were factory performance models using the Shelby name under license. Others are “post-title” conversions—stock Mustangs sent to Shelby American (or authorized shops) for superchargers, suspension, body kits, exhaust, wheels, and other upgrades after the car already has a title.

In short, the defining characteristic of a Shelby Mustang is that it is not a regular production Mustang; the Shelby treatment is what makes it a Shelby.
What “stock” usually means
In automotive and collector contexts:

A stock Mustang is one that remains as it left the Ford factory (or with only period-correct, reversible options).
A stock Shelby means a genuine Shelby that retains its original Shelby-era equipment and configuration, without later owner-added aftermarket parts. Originality is highly valued (and heavily scrutinized for authenticity because replicas and clones exist).

Collectors, historians, and auction houses treat authentic Shelbys as their own category of high-value specialty cars precisely because of those modifications and the Shelby pedigree. Calling them “stock” would erase the very thing that defines them.
So while a well-preserved original Shelby can be described as “stock for a Shelby,” it is never considered a stock Mustang.


Google:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/596909/shelby_png-3830706.JPG

Well we certainly disagree however we can still be friendly with each other and I appreciate your opinion based on knowledge you believe in.



I appreciate your friendliness.  Agreeing to disagree.

We do agree that Shelby Mustangs are very sexy however.

Very much agree. Thank you.
Yesterday 6:04:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CashOnlyLargeBills:



I appreciate your friendliness.  Agreeing to disagree.

We do agree that Shelby Mustangs are very sexy however.
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Even S197 GT500's that rolled out of AAI in Flat Rock as is?



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Yesterday 7:27:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JoseCuervo:
Even S197 GT500's that rolled out of AAI in Flat Rock as is?



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Damn that's nice.
Grandfathering weapons only puts off until tomorrow what tyranny cannot accomplish today.

The only people made safer by gun control are criminals and tyrants.
Yesterday 7:35:20 PM EDT
[#13]
Pretty sure the 74 mustang 2 was supposed to be twice as gooder than anything else
The mountains are calling, and I must go. -John Muir

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