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Originally Posted By PepePewPew: I didn't recall him attacking Israel verbally for defending itself physically. I checked Wiki and saw this (in addition to his repeated NO votes on financial aid to Israel). In November 2023, he was one of just two members of Congress to oppose a resolution affirming Israel's right to exist and equating anti-Zionism to antisemitism. (smells like Hamasshole) In July 2024, Massie boycotted Benjamin Netanyahu's address to Congress, calling it "political theater"; he was the only Republican to do so. Yep, he's a Hamasshole. Fuck him. Too bad, because I like the idea of an actual fiscal conservative sitting in Congress. Originally Posted By PepePewPew: Originally Posted By LoneMouser: Pro-Israel groups were vocal about their desire to defeat Massie, who was an unapologetic critic of Israel’s military action in Gaza that followed the 2023 attack on Israel by Hamas. Massie supports cutting off military aid to Israel, calling its action in Gaza a genocide and blaming it for pulling Trump into the ongoing war with Iran. I didn't recall him attacking Israel verbally for defending itself physically. I checked Wiki and saw this (in addition to his repeated NO votes on financial aid to Israel). In November 2023, he was one of just two members of Congress to oppose a resolution affirming Israel's right to exist and equating anti-Zionism to antisemitism. (smells like Hamasshole) In July 2024, Massie boycotted Benjamin Netanyahu's address to Congress, calling it "political theater"; he was the only Republican to do so. Yep, he's a Hamasshole. Fuck him. Too bad, because I like the idea of an actual fiscal conservative sitting in Congress. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By PepePewPew: I didn't recall him attacking Israel verbally for defending itself physically. I checked Wiki and saw this (in addition to his repeated NO votes on financial aid to Israel). In November 2023, he was one of just two members of Congress to oppose a resolution affirming Israel's right to exist and equating anti-Zionism to antisemitism. (smells like Hamasshole) In July 2024, Massie boycotted Benjamin Netanyahu's address to Congress, calling it "political theater"; he was the only Republican to do so. Yep, he's a Hamasshole. Fuck him. Too bad, because I like the idea of an actual fiscal conservative sitting in Congress. Originally Posted By PepePewPew: Originally Posted By LoneMouser: Pro-Israel groups were vocal about their desire to defeat Massie, who was an unapologetic critic of Israel’s military action in Gaza that followed the 2023 attack on Israel by Hamas. Massie supports cutting off military aid to Israel, calling its action in Gaza a genocide and blaming it for pulling Trump into the ongoing war with Iran. I didn't recall him attacking Israel verbally for defending itself physically. I checked Wiki and saw this (in addition to his repeated NO votes on financial aid to Israel). In November 2023, he was one of just two members of Congress to oppose a resolution affirming Israel's right to exist and equating anti-Zionism to antisemitism. (smells like Hamasshole) In July 2024, Massie boycotted Benjamin Netanyahu's address to Congress, calling it "political theater"; he was the only Republican to do so. Yep, he's a Hamasshole. Fuck him. Too bad, because I like the idea of an actual fiscal conservative sitting in Congress. Good on Massie for voting against that nonsense. We should not be providing financial aid to Israel while being 40 trillion in debt. Being against zionism is not antisemitic, and not attending Netanyahu's address to congress is a good thing. Foreign leaders should not be addressing congress directly, that is foreign influence of our government. |
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Originally Posted By xd341: Congressional seats aren't state level politics. Reps don't vote on state level issues. They are not state politicians any more than federal senators are. As far as the dinner goes I don't know, the guy with What does the dinner have to do with the fact that Massie shot himself in the dick and lost an election that was as honest as any in recent memory? At what point does Thomas take responsibility? |
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Originally Posted By SWIRE: Massie votes against massive deficit spending that makes him a Soro's puppet? Massie calls out the Republican Speaker for voluntarily giving up 50 days legislative power instead of using the fact they control the House, Senate, and White House to get things done...and that makes him a Soro's puppet? The last person Soro's would engage with would be Massie. He certainly knows, if he's the guy you think he is why don't you ask him? |
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Originally Posted By dorobuta: Yes, and so far it has been historically been nearly 100% accurate… Originally Posted By dorobuta: Originally Posted By FS7: Why am I saying what exactly? Do you think everything somebody "far-Left" says is automatically wrong or bad? Yes, and so far it has been historically been nearly 100% accurate… This is such a ridiculous statement 😂. |
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Originally Posted By ag04blast: This thread shows why we are where we are. There is zero reason we should have to accept the pork wrapped in pork, stuffed with pork that is the BigBeautBill to get zero dollar tax stamps. We dont "have" to play this game...yet we still do. There’s folks in this thread who fell for the Massie-AOC-Ilhan threesome shit, lol. They fell for it because they wanted to. 
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Originally Posted By boolzi: He was primaried by maga. As maga cools here locally the hangover morning is creeping in. Originally Posted By boolzi: Originally Posted By tifosi: Originally Posted By Karankawa: Hopefully our next president. He was primaried by maga. As maga cools here locally the hangover morning is creeping in. It's going to be interesting what happens when Trump is gone. |
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Originally Posted By RTUtah: There's folks in this thread who fell for the Massie-AOC-Ilhan threesome shit, lol. They fell for it because they wanted to. 
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Originally Posted By stone-age: It's going to be interesting what happens when Trump is gone. For all his numerous faults, he altered the bad trajectory we were on. Maybe we'll win the lotto and Rubio will win. |
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Originally Posted By RTUtah: There’s folks in this thread who fell for the Massie-AOC-Ilhan threesome shit, lol. They fell for it because they wanted to. Originally Posted By RTUtah: Originally Posted By ag04blast: This thread shows why we are where we are. There is zero reason we should have to accept the pork wrapped in pork, stuffed with pork that is the BigBeautBill to get zero dollar tax stamps. We dont "have" to play this game...yet we still do. There’s folks in this thread who fell for the Massie-AOC-Ilhan threesome shit, lol. They fell for it because they wanted to. Here is that ad you are talking about. The first image has "This ad is satirical and created by AI" and boomers and people here still believed it.  Anti Massie ad shows Massie having a threesome with AOC and Ilhan Omar having a threesome That ad was created and run by MAGA KY, funded by Trump. |
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Originally Posted By JLAudio: Here is that ad you are talking about. The first image has "This ad is satirical and created by AI" and boomers and people here still believed it.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QYGy8xSxv0That ad was created and run by MAGA KY, funded by Trump. It’s not their fault, bro. Mark Levin told them AI stands for “American Intelligence.” 
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Originally Posted By RTUtah: It’s not their fault, bro. Mark Levin told them AI stands for “American Intelligence.” Originally Posted By RTUtah: Originally Posted By JLAudio: Here is that ad you are talking about. The first image has "This ad is satirical and created by AI" and boomers and people here still believed it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QYGy8xSxv0That ad was created and run by MAGA KY, funded by Trump. It’s not their fault, bro. Mark Levin told them AI stands for “American Intelligence.” I thought he said it was "Appease Israel." 
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Originally Posted By JLAudio: Here is that ad you are talking about. The first image has "This ad is satirical and created by AI" and boomers and people here still believed it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QYGy8xSxv0That ad was created and run by MAGA KY, funded by Trump.
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Originally Posted By JLAudio: Here is that ad you are talking about. The first image has "This ad is satirical and created by AI" and boomers and people here still believed it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QYGy8xSxv0That ad was created and run by MAGA KY, funded by Trump. Something wrong with this guy keeps calling his superiors boomers. |
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Originally Posted By Glock031: Something wrong with this guy keeps calling his superiors boomers. Originally Posted By Glock031: Originally Posted By JLAudio: Here is that ad you are talking about. The first image has "This ad is satirical and created by AI" and boomers and people here still believed it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QYGy8xSxv0That ad was created and run by MAGA KY, funded by Trump. Something wrong with this guy keeps calling his superiors boomers. Introspect |
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Originally Posted By Glock031: Something wrong with this guy keeps calling his superiors boomers. Originally Posted By Glock031: Originally Posted By JLAudio: Here is that ad you are talking about. The first image has "This ad is satirical and created by AI" and boomers and people here still believed it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QYGy8xSxv0That ad was created and run by MAGA KY, funded by Trump. Something wrong with this guy keeps calling his superiors boomers. Your posts indicate that you fell for it |
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Originally Posted By Glock031: Something wrong with this guy keeps calling his superiors boomers. Originally Posted By Glock031: Originally Posted By JLAudio: Here is that ad you are talking about. The first image has "This ad is satirical and created by AI" and boomers and people here still believed it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QYGy8xSxv0That ad was created and run by MAGA KY, funded by Trump. Something wrong with this guy keeps calling his superiors boomers. He's special. |
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Originally Posted By xd341: He took a huge chunk of money from someone that didn't want it to be public. We know who donated to his opponent. We might not like it but we at least know. He certainly knows, if he's the guy you think he is why don't you ask him? Originally Posted By xd341: Originally Posted By SWIRE: Massie votes against massive deficit spending that makes him a Soro's puppet? Massie calls out the Republican Speaker for voluntarily giving up 50 days legislative power instead of using the fact they control the House, Senate, and White House to get things done...and that makes him a Soro's puppet? The last person Soro's would engage with would be Massie. He certainly knows, if he's the guy you think he is why don't you ask him? Tamarack Aspen Inc., a Delaware 501(c)(4) nonprofit created just days before the PAC registered. It has a Dallas FedEx mailbox address and almost no public footprint. The actual person or people who funded Tamarack Aspen have not been identified. Massie's own campaign committee raised roughly $5.5 million to $8.8 million for the cycle Billionaire Jeff Yass put $7.5 million into Protect Freedom PAC; that group then sent $1 million to another pro-Massie PAC (Kentucky First PAC). |
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Originally Posted By xd341: we'll suddenly realize that we fucked away a good thing, a messy, noisy, obnoxious thing Remember how every election they say "this is most important election of your life." and "elect us so we can get to work"? If that is true then why the fuck is Speaker Johnson voluntarily giving up 50 days of legislative power by going on another recess? The Republican Leadership is a fucking joke. "Send us to DC so we can fix things" "Donate to us to so we can beat the Democrats and fix the country". Then they fucking go home and don't even try. The Republicans have the House, Senate, White House, and Supreme Court....and they fucking go home! They fucked their chance away and they fucked us all by doing nothing. That said Voting Dem is worse...but don't blame this shit on the voters when it is Republican Leadership who failed. |
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Originally Posted By geez1234: This is such a ridiculous statement 😂. Originally Posted By geez1234: Originally Posted By dorobuta: Originally Posted By FS7: Why am I saying what exactly? Do you think everything somebody "far-Left" says is automatically wrong or bad? Yes, and so far it has been historically been nearly 100% accurate… This is such a ridiculous statement 😂. I can’t think of anything a far leftist has said (of any consequence) that has not been shown to be false. But I’m willing to concede I may have missed a couple of things. Therefore, historically, I am safe starting out with the assumption they are either lying or simply wrong. |
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Originally Posted By SWIRE: What do you mean by "we". The Do Nothing Republican Congress is who fucked away their chance at America First policy. Remember how every election they say "this is most important election of your life." and "elect us so we can get to work"? If that is true then why the fuck is Speaker Johnson voluntarily giving up 50 days of legislative power by going on another recess? The Republican Leadership is a fucking joke. "Send us to DC so we can fix things" "Donate to us to so we can beat the Democrats and fix the country". Then they fucking go home and don't even try. The Republicans have the House, Senate, White House, and Supreme Court....and they fucking go home! They fucked their chance away and they fucked us all by doing nothing. That said Voting Dem is worse...but don't blame this shit on the voters when it is Republican Leadership who failed. if potus and congress are not on the same page nothing gets done. If potus sets the agenda when his party owns both houses, and they don't execute the agenda, who is at fault? I do not like the speaker. |
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Originally Posted By SWIRE: Are you talking about the $6.6 million that Kentucky 4th PAC spent? PAC money doesn't go to a candidate. They can't "take it" or even legally "coordinate with" a PAC. Tamarack Aspen Inc., a Delaware 501(c)(4) nonprofit created just days before the PAC registered. It has a Dallas FedEx mailbox address and almost no public footprint. The actual person or people who funded Tamarack Aspen have not been identified. Massie's own campaign committee raised roughly $5.5 million to $8.8 million for the cycle Billionaire Jeff Yass put $7.5 million into Protect Freedom PAC; that group then sent $1 million to another pro-Massie PAC (Kentucky First PAC). I'm way to cynical to believe that. in fact its laughable. the israel lobby didn't pull that bullshit. There wasn't a massive contribution to that side that was intentionally obfuscated from the public. Who was giving massive amounts of money to support massie? we don't know. |
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Originally Posted By xd341: sure they can't "coordinate" with super PACs directly. But that was fully 1/3 of the total pro massie spend in the campaign. Do you honestly think a candidate doesn't know who is doing that? Do you honestly think 6 million doesn't buy you something? I'm way to cynical to believe that. in fact its laughable. the israel lobby didn't pull that bullshit. There wasn't a massive contribution to that side that was intentionally obfuscated from the public. Who was giving massive amounts of money to support massie? we don't know. Originally Posted By xd341: Originally Posted By SWIRE: Are you talking about the $6.6 million that Kentucky 4th PAC spent? PAC money doesn't go to a candidate. They can't "take it" or even legally "coordinate with" a PAC. Tamarack Aspen Inc., a Delaware 501(c)(4) nonprofit created just days before the PAC registered. It has a Dallas FedEx mailbox address and almost no public footprint. The actual person or people who funded Tamarack Aspen have not been identified. Massie's own campaign committee raised roughly $5.5 million to $8.8 million for the cycle Billionaire Jeff Yass put $7.5 million into Protect Freedom PAC; that group then sent $1 million to another pro-Massie PAC (Kentucky First PAC). I'm way to cynical to believe that. in fact its laughable. the israel lobby didn't pull that bullshit. There wasn't a massive contribution to that side that was intentionally obfuscated from the public. Who was giving massive amounts of money to support massie? we don't know. |
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Originally Posted By xd341: you're not wrong. which is why my hate is directed at congress. Me and Mark Twain have similar opinions. They are diffuse and therefor it's very difficult to hold them to account and we don't. if potus and congress are not on the same page nothing gets done. If potus sets the agenda when his party owns both houses, and they don't execute the agenda, who is at fault? I do not like the speaker. Originally Posted By xd341: Originally Posted By SWIRE: What do you mean by "we". The Do Nothing Republican Congress is who fucked away their chance at America First policy. Remember how every election they say "this is most important election of your life." and "elect us so we can get to work"? If that is true then why the fuck is Speaker Johnson voluntarily giving up 50 days of legislative power by going on another recess? The Republican Leadership is a fucking joke. "Send us to DC so we can fix things" "Donate to us to so we can beat the Democrats and fix the country". Then they fucking go home and don't even try. The Republicans have the House, Senate, White House, and Supreme Court....and they fucking go home! They fucked their chance away and they fucked us all by doing nothing. That said Voting Dem is worse...but don't blame this shit on the voters when it is Republican Leadership who failed. if potus and congress are not on the same page nothing gets done. If potus sets the agenda when his party owns both houses, and they don't execute the agenda, who is at fault? I do not like the speaker. |
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Originally Posted By DPeacher: Most large businesses donate to both parties so that no matter which one wins they have strings to pull. Originally Posted By DPeacher: Originally Posted By geez1234: Hopefully that X account actually knows the difference between the FCC and the FEC….. If you actually look up the people named there on the FEC website, they’re Arlington, TX based owners of a car dealer chain and a tech company serving dealerships. MEI Group. Wow, I can’t believe Massie gets donations from American businesspeople who have Arab names, that’s so crazy. It looks like they donated to Dems in 2021-2023ish, and Massie + MTG more recently. Are you upset by the fact that someone might have switched parties? Most large businesses donate to both parties so that no matter which one wins they have strings to pull. I doubt that was the reason for those donations. For one thing, it doesn't make sense to donate to Massie for that reason considering the specific situation he was in. |
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Originally Posted By DonS: He partnered with Ro Khanna to leverage the Epstein thing to attack Trump. |
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Originally Posted By DonS: He partnered with Ro Khanna to leverage the Epstein thing to attack Trump. Originally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By SWIRE: Exactly how did Massie fight Trump? Name a single bill where he was the sole Republican No vote that killed it. He partnered with Ro Khanna to leverage the Epstein thing to attack Trump. |
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Originally Posted By DonS: I doubt that was the reason for those donations. For one thing, it doesn't make sense to donate to Massie for that reason considering the specific situation he was in. Originally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By DPeacher: Originally Posted By geez1234: Hopefully that X account actually knows the difference between the FCC and the FEC .. If you actually look up the people named there on the FEC website, they're Arlington, TX based owners of a car dealer chain and a tech company serving dealerships. MEI Group. Wow, I can't believe Massie gets donations from American businesspeople who have Arab names, that's so crazy. It looks like they donated to Dems in 2021-2023ish, and Massie + MTG more recently. Are you upset by the fact that someone might have switched parties? Most large businesses donate to both parties so that no matter which one wins they have strings to pull. I doubt that was the reason for those donations. For one thing, it doesn't make sense to donate to Massie for that reason considering the specific situation he was in. |
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Originally Posted By SWIRE: Um...you realize that would only be an attack on Trump if Trump was trying to protect pedophiles right? Also, Trump campaigned on the disclosing all the Epstein information. So Massie attacked Trump by trying to hold Trump to his own word? Simplistic take. Of course it was an attack on Trump. Massie and the Democrats had no interest in Epstein until Pam fucked up and made it into a weapon that could be used against Trump. It isn't surprising the Democrats would weaponize that but Massie joined them to make it "bipartisan". It was all about narrative framing. And Massie was happy to become a tool of the Democrats in the effort of harming Trump. It didn't pan out well for them, and backfired on Massie. But the backfire on Massie is because it revealed what a shit he was. |
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Originally Posted By SWIRE: Exactly, the only wealthy donors creating a PAC to help Massie at late in the game would be those he had already helped. No one has shown where Massie helped any Left wing or anti-American entity. Most his district is rural and farmers. The hemp or beef industries would be the most likely sources of the PAC funds. Then obviously if those efforts didn't work those industries would not want to get blacklisted, so of course they hid their identity. That's more logical than hypothical 5D chess move by Soros. Or those who hate Israel, like wealthy Arabs in Texas. |
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Originally Posted By DonS: Simplistic take. Of course it was an attack on Trump. Massie and the Democrats had no interest in Epstein until Pam fucked up and made it into a weapon that could be used against Trump. It isn't surprising the Democrats would weaponize that but Massie joined them to make it "bipartisan". It was all about narrative framing. And Massie was happy to become a tool of the Democrats in the effort of harming Trump. It didn't pan out well for them, and backfired on Massie. But the backfire on Massie is because it revealed what a shit he was. Originally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By SWIRE: Um...you realize that would only be an attack on Trump if Trump was trying to protect pedophiles right? Also, Trump campaigned on the disclosing all the Epstein information. So Massie attacked Trump by trying to hold Trump to his own word? Simplistic take. Of course it was an attack on Trump. Massie and the Democrats had no interest in Epstein until Pam fucked up and made it into a weapon that could be used against Trump. It isn't surprising the Democrats would weaponize that but Massie joined them to make it "bipartisan". It was all about narrative framing. And Massie was happy to become a tool of the Democrats in the effort of harming Trump. It didn't pan out well for them, and backfired on Massie. But the backfire on Massie is because it revealed what a shit he was. Again, if Trump had followed through on what he promised he would...this would even be an issue. But go ahead and blame Massie and Dems for it. Pam and Kash have done nothing they were promised to have done. So of course it became an issue. All we heard the first several months, is all 3 of them were working on it to make it happen. Then Trump turned it into "If you ask about Epstein you are not MAGA and I don't want your support". Trump, then started various attacks on Massie...and Massie responded. Everything about that whole scenario was created by Trump and controlled by Trump. But go ahead and blame the guy who never changed his position or what he stood for. |
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Originally Posted By SWIRE: Again, if Trump had followed through on what he promised he would...this would even be an issue. But go ahead and blame Massie and Dems for it. Pam and Kash have done nothing they were promised to have done. So of course it became an issue. All we heard the first several months, is all 3 of them were working on it to make it happen. Then Trump turned it into "If you ask about Epstein you are not MAGA and I don't want your support". Trump, then started various attacks on Massie...and Massie responded. Everything about that whole scenario was created by Trump and controlled by Trump. But go ahead and blame the guy who never changed his position or what he stood for. It is 100% on Massie that he decided to leverage that to attack Trump and become a tool of Democrats. He owns that and deserved the electoral result he got. That action revealed Massie as an unprincipled grifter. Trump's mistakes made it possible, but Trump has always been flawed. But he has virtues that have overcome his flaws. Massie's virtue was only just his libertarian principals, but those principals count for nothing when you are enabling a snake like Khanna to attack Trump. |
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Originally Posted By Bhart89: And boy don’t both sides deserve it. Originally Posted By Bhart89: Originally Posted By nightstalker: Running as a libertarian just allows you to be critical of And boy don’t both sides deserve it. Preach it. One more than other, but other sure as hell deserves it. |
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Originally Posted By boolzi: He was primaried by Originally Posted By boolzi: Originally Posted By tifosi: Originally Posted By Karankawa: Hopefully our next president. He was primaried by |
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Originally Posted By DonS: Yes, it is. In 1947 you would probably be right, but now if the state of Israel ceased to exist the Arabs would butcher all the Jews in Israel. Originally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By JLAudio: Being against zionism is not antisemitic, Yes, it is. In 1947 you would probably be right, but now if the state of Israel ceased to exist the Arabs would butcher all the Jews in Israel. No, it's not. Countries only have the right to exist to the extent that they can defend themselves. America exists because we can defend ourselves without reliance on others. |
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Originally Posted By DonS: It is 100% on Massie that he decided to leverage that to attack Trump and become a tool of Democrats. He owns that and deserved the electoral result he got. That action revealed Massie as an unprincipled grifter. Trump's mistakes made it possible, but Trump has always been flawed. But he has virtues that have overcome his flaws. Massie's virtue was only just his libertarian principals, but those principals count for nothing when you are enabling a snake like Khanna to attack Trump. Loyalty to Trump is more important to you than the virtue of standing by principles?  Being loyal isn’t good when he’s not honoring his promises. Like the one to bring justice and accountability to the child rape industry. How is this even an argument? Not to minimize getting WW3 instead of Trump’s promise to end war or anything. That one you could at least pretend it has merit.I just asked Brave if Massie’s values were more conservative or libertarian and got this back. I think it’s the best endorsement for a candidate ever. It makes him sound like a founding father. That’s a man I would vote for. The best politician we could get. “Thomas Massie is a self-described libertarian-conservative and constitutional originalist who served as a U.S. Representative for Kentucky’s 4th District from 2012 until his primary defeat in 2026. His political philosophy centers on strict fiscal restraint, limited federal government, and individual civil liberties, often prioritizing constitutional limits over party loyalty. His core values include: Fiscal Conservatism: Earned the nickname “Mr. No” for consistently voting against federal spending increases, including the 2020 stimulus bill and Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill Act,” which he viewed as a debt bomb. Non-Interventionism: A staunch antiwar advocate who opposed foreign aid (including to Israel), refused AIPAC campaign contributions, and resisted measures expanding war powers or warrantless surveillance. Civil Liberties & Second Amendment: A member of the Second Amendment Caucus and Liberty Caucus, he champions gun rights and opposes broad federal surveillance programs, having worked with civil liberties groups against the Patriot Act. Agrarian Self-Sufficiency: Described as a “libertarian agrarian,” he embodies a Southern Agrarian ethos emphasizing local self-reliance, small-farm roots, and minimal government interference in daily life. Constitutionalism: He frames most positions in constitutional terms, arguing for strict adherence to enumerated federal powers and Tenth Amendment pri” |
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Originally Posted By M4ger: no I want him out of DC and replacing andy in the gov's ofc. Originally Posted By M4ger: Originally Posted By Karankawa: Hopefully our next president. no I want him out of DC and replacing andy in the gov's ofc. Massie stands on principle and would be a solid Governor...I would like a bulldog though. I know, wishful thinking on my part. |
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Originally Posted By akethan: Massie is irrelevant. He's going to remain irrelevant. Sorry not sorry. |
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