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9/8/2026 5:09:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FredMan:
That was creepy as hell.

There’s a whole den of snakes living in that head.
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And they probably can't wait to get out and unleash havoc upon the world.
Psychopath is probably to mild a term for her.
9/9/2026 12:03:33 PM EDT
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Ready for part two of Elizabeth Holmes when she gets out of prison???

Unrepentant Elizabeth Holmes already plotting biotech comeback from behind bars: ‘Shameless and delusional’
https://nypost.com/2026/09/09/business/unrepentant-elizabeth-holmes-already-plotting-biotech-comeback-from-behind-bars/

Silicon Valley swindler Elizabeth Holmes is already plotting a comeback from her Texas prison camp, despite only being three years into her 10-year sentence.

The Theranos fraudster, 42, has managed to help her husband raise a reported $18 million for another blood testing startup, The Post has learned.

“She is shameless and delusional to think that she could be taken seriously again by any medical and biotech professionals,” a Silicon Valley biotech insider told The Post.

Much like her previous company — which reached a $9 billion valuation before the science behind it was proven to be bunk and she was convicted of scamming investors — the new business, called Haemanthus, is a health tech company that aims, once again, to revolutionize medical testing, according to reports.

“This is completely a joke,” the insider told The Post, noting the company has no publicly disclosed scientific advisors or peer-reviewed research for its product. “It sounds exactly like Theranos 2.0.”

The company, helmed by Holmes’ husband Billy Evans, 33, plans to build AI-driven devices which use lasers to scan blood and look for diseases. It has yet to publicly launch.
9/13/2026 3:04:22 PM EDT
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Breaking down Elizabeth Holmes’ expressions in \u200b\u2060A24’s new documentary. @A24 #facialexpressions
9/13/2026 5:47:42 PM EDT
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sheesh that woman is psycho.
9/13/2026 8:48:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ATLDiver:
How she tricked so many is beyond me. Anyone with a tiny bit of science background should’ve seen through her BS.
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Some people are naturally persuasive despite being obviously crazy.  Look at Charles Manson.
9/14/2026 7:29:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By realwar:
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As in....



KEEP CALM and let ME Carry On.
9/14/2026 7:50:46 AM EDT
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Psychopath
9/14/2026 10:58:25 AM EDT
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9/14/2026 2:10:55 PM EDT
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For some reason I don't think that photo was taken while she is in prison.  She is reminiscing about the old times and waiting for her release so she can start her new scam.

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9/14/2026 2:15:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DevilsEggAdvocate:
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Someone here would hit it
"The villainy you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction"
9/14/2026 2:17:49 PM EDT
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She looks like the love child of Mark Zuckerberg and Elizabeth Warren.
9/14/2026 2:18:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cyclone:


Someone here would hit it
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Originally Posted By cyclone:
Originally Posted By DevilsEggAdvocate:
In before someone here claims he can fix her.


Someone here would hit it



Maybe they already have.  Don't we have some prison guards that are members?
9/14/2026 2:24:06 PM EDT
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Here she is doing hard time.

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9/14/2026 2:25:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheYellowThing:
She duped the military.
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... Is that supposed to be a high bar?
9/14/2026 2:27:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MFP_4073:


sheesh that woman is psycho.
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I can fix her.

(maybe not)
9/14/2026 7:48:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cyclone:


Someone here would hit it
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Originally Posted By cyclone:
Originally Posted By DevilsEggAdvocate:
In before someone here claims he can fix her.


Someone here would hit it
Hit it? Sure. Fake name, hotel, etc.

Fix her? Lol. She's not broken, she's built exactly the way she's supposed to be. It's like talking about fixing a venomous snake or a scorpion.
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
9/15/2026 11:06:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By R2point0:
Hit it? Sure. Fake name, hotel, etc.

Fix her? Lol. She's not broken, she's built exactly the way she's supposed to be. It's like talking about fixing a venomous snake or a scorpion.
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I bet she has a list of male (and female) admirers just like the Luigi guy who killed the healthcare CEO.
9/15/2026 11:20:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By R2point0:
He impregnated her specifically to delay the trial. Then after she was found guilty he knocked her up again to try to delay her going to prison. Judge finally said "Rough shit, you get to give birth in prison."
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Originally Posted By LurchAddams:
What's the deal with her husband?  

IIRC, the guy is filthy rich.  He married her, and impregnated her, when she was on her way to prison.
He impregnated her specifically to delay the trial. Then after she was found guilty he knocked her up again to try to delay her going to prison. Judge finally said "Rough shit, you get to give birth in prison."
Her husband certainly has some psychological issues.  

Is he crazy?  Gay?   Just looking for 15 minutes of fame?
Why are nonimmigrants and illegal aliens eligible for government mortgages, loans, and grants?
9/15/2026 11:21:31 AM EDT
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Didn't everyone already know about the voice thing?
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9/15/2026 11:23:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mamacujo:
I don't understand how she conned so many people.
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It was considered sexist if you didn't believe a woman could produce miracles.  So lots of people bought into it because it was considered socially unacceptable to signal that you didn't believe.
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9/15/2026 11:26:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheYellowThing:
She duped the military.
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Not the first, and not the last.
9/15/2026 11:27:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Justintime2:

This, are we sure it’s not AI? Sure looks like it’s weird enough to be…
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That was the strangest “interview” clip I’ve ever seen.  Looked like two lunatics with all the strange head shaking.  Also, her face makes her look like she is one of the seven dwarfs.

Extremely strange.  Looks like some kind of AI satire.

This, are we sure it’s not AI? Sure looks like it’s weird enough to be…


I saw this a few days ago. I thought it was AI.
9/15/2026 11:30:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By kc-coyote:



I bet she has a list of male (and female) admirers just like the Luigi guy who killed the healthcare CEO.
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Originally Posted By kc-coyote:
Originally Posted By R2point0:
Hit it? Sure. Fake name, hotel, etc.

Fix her? Lol. She's not broken, she's built exactly the way she's supposed to be. It's like talking about fixing a venomous snake or a scorpion.



I bet she has a list of male (and female) admirers just like the Luigi guy who killed the healthcare CEO.


Nah, I think everyone knows she's batshit crazy by now.

There might be people curious of what makes her tick but the actual admirers is probably small.

The people that admire Luigi are likely going to hate Elisabeth Holmes even more. They see her types as part of the problem in our society. Like that Fyre Festival guy that scammed a bunch of people. Wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he hasn't learned his lesson and trying something new too.

Your typical Luigi admirer is not a fan of either of those two, or others like Sam Bankman-Fried.
9/15/2026 11:32:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Colt1860:
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The media publicized her manly voice (that it was not real), but all of the videos of her talking were with the fake one.  I think she screwed up in one video and accidentally used her real voice for a brief moment.
9/15/2026 11:39:27 AM EDT
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That’s kinda hot honestly. Would hit, but wouldn’t fall asleep in the same house.
9/15/2026 11:49:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheDoorGunner:
Variety already has a review out.

Wow.  And that article goes a long way towards explaining the "unusual" trailer in the OP.

She believes her version of reality. Fielder, who is not taken in by any of this (his questions remain rigorous in their skepticism), at one point gives vent to his impish side by showing Elizabeth and Billy the famous Abbott and Costello routine “Who’s on First?” When it ends, he tries to get Holmes to explain what the joke is (that “Who” is the first baseman’s name, but the name sounds like a question — hence the routine’s glorious verbal slapstick). And she can’t do it; she can’t grasp the joke. It’s not just that she lacks a sense of humor (though frankly, she kind of does). It’s that she’s got the malignant narcissist’s need to have words mean only what she decrees them to mean. She can’t hear any other meaning. Hence: her device did “work,” and still does (it can run any test!). That’s why she and Billy, years after her conviction, are still pitching Theranos to other investors (as if anyone would go near her). This is a highly rarefied level of delusional thinking.
9/15/2026 11:52:52 AM EDT
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"Those crazy eyes tell you she is a pathological liar."

You... do realize thats not actually Elizabeth Holmes, right? You realize thats an actor playing her?
I mean, I agree she is a pathological liar. But using a movie actress portraying her in a "documentary" is hardly evidence.
9/15/2026 12:03:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By scuba_steve:

No, she didn't.

She had a number of powerful old men on her Board and in her pocket, including Mattis, but never had any contract with or promises from the DoD.  She lied about all of that, at one point even claiming there was a Theranos Edison blood analyzer in the back of every HMMWV in Afghanistan - a claim easily disproved, but no one bothered to check, because they were enamored with her.  They wanted to believe her.  The left had been waiting for the first female founder of a unicorn for years, and they thought she was it.  The female Steve Jobs, who was going to revolutionize healthcare.  

Her credibility was also propped up by the reputations of those on her Board, including former Secretary of State George Shultz, and it wasn't a mistake the people she put on the Board or from whom she secured funding lacked experience with or knowledge of biotechnology.  The VCs who did have that experience knew she was sketchy and wouldn't get near her with a 100' pole.

If her partner, Sunny Balwani, hadn't managed to destroy all the patient data (after passing the government an unreadable encrypted copy), they would have faced charges far more serious than financial fraud.  The two of them are both in prison, but should have been buried beneath it, and they should have company there.  A number of others who worked at Theranos were involved, including those who helped cook demos.
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Good summary.  And Shultz’s grandson was a Theranos employee and the star whistleblower.  Theranos lawyers attacked him mercilessly and nearly bankrupted him.  It also fractured his family but he was vindicated in the end.


It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
9/15/2026 12:08:25 PM EDT
[#29]
Is that the guy who made funny videos trying to help failing businesses?
Have another hit of sweet California sunshine
9/15/2026 12:12:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PatriotAr15:
"Those crazy eyes tell you she is a pathological liar."

You... do realize thats not actually Elizabeth Holmes, right? You realize thats an actor playing her?
I mean, I agree she is a pathological liar. But using a movie actress portraying her in a "documentary" is hardly evidence.
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Originally Posted By PatriotAr15:
"Those crazy eyes tell you she is a pathological liar."

You... do realize thats not actually Elizabeth Holmes, right? You realize thats an actor playing her?
I mean, I agree she is a pathological liar. But using a movie actress portraying her in a "documentary" is hardly evidence.


Dude, that's really her.

That's not an actress.

Yes, that is the actual Elizabeth Holmes in the You Can See Everything Trailer.

The viral clip is from You Can See Everything, an upcoming A24 documentary directed by Nathan Fielder and Lance Oppenheim.

Holmes invited the filmmakers into her home to record her daily life during the 34 days leading up to her federal prison sentence in May 2023.

Many viewers mistook her for an actress because her appearance and demeanor are so different from her high-profile court dates and the days of Theranos. In the footage, she has dropped her trademark deep speaking voice and signature black turtleneck, appearing on camera without the persona she used during her time as a tech executive
9/15/2026 12:35:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kc-coyote:
Ready for part two of Elizabeth Holmes when she gets out of prison???

Unrepentant Elizabeth Holmes already plotting biotech comeback from behind bars: ‘Shameless and delusional’
https://nypost.com/2026/09/09/business/unrepentant-elizabeth-holmes-already-plotting-biotech-comeback-from-behind-bars/

Silicon Valley swindler Elizabeth Holmes is already plotting a comeback from her Texas prison camp, despite only being three years into her 10-year sentence.

The Theranos fraudster, 42, has managed to help her husband raise a reported $18 million for another blood testing startup, The Post has learned.

“She is shameless and delusional to think that she could be taken seriously again by any medical and biotech professionals,” a Silicon Valley biotech insider told The Post.

Much like her previous company — which reached a $9 billion valuation before the science behind it was proven to be bunk and she was convicted of scamming investors — the new business, called Haemanthus, is a health tech company that aims, once again, to revolutionize medical testing, according to reports.

“This is completely a joke,” the insider told The Post, noting the company has no publicly disclosed scientific advisors or peer-reviewed research for its product. “It sounds exactly like Theranos 2.0.”

The company, helmed by Holmes’ husband Billy Evans, 33, plans to build AI-driven devices which use lasers to scan blood and look for diseases. It has yet to publicly launch.
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Just ask her to explain (at a very high level,) the science of how that would work. “Our laser’s can break down the blood at the sub-atomic level allowing powerful AI compute to calculate the possible number of permutations in a sample.”

She’s a semi cute chick that somehow can manipulate horny geeks into opening up their wallets.
9/15/2026 12:45:43 PM EDT
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Some people are naturally persuasive despite being obviously crazy.  Look at Charles Manson.
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Well, if you’re a gullible and naive type I guess. Manson isn’t a good case as those he manipulated were crazy to begin with. A better example would be Jim Jones.

In her case a believe this was yet another societal propaganda, the narrative was she was the female Steve Jobs and people wanted that to be true. Again women are better than men, blah, blah, blah narrative was there as well.

Again, a very, very basic science background was all one needed. For a very long time PhD’s and the like simped for her even though “math wasn’t mathin.” There were a few researchers in her company she absolutely shit all over once they figured out she was a con artist. The warning signs were there for a long time but ignored because people wanted to believe.

Strangely, COVID followed the same phenomenon.
9/15/2026 12:52:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chupacabras:



Good summary.  And Shultz’s grandson was a Theranos employee and the star whistleblower.  Theranos lawyers attacked him mercilessly and nearly bankrupted him.  It also fractured his family but he was vindicated in the end.


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If I recall correctly, Shultz took her side over his own grandson who worked for the company. His grandson had become one of the first whistleblowers inside that her ‘science’ was BS and she was a fraud.

I don’t know if that speaks to how she could manipulate people or George Shultz was a POS old fart simping over a cute piece of ass.
9/15/2026 12:53:31 PM EDT
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Wait a minute, back the bus up. That’s actually her?  I assumed it was some actress playing the role of a crazy person!
9/15/2026 1:43:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xerxes2695:
Wait a minute, back the bus up. That’s actually her?  I assumed it was some actress playing the role of a crazy person!
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When that was pitched, a normal person would say “go fuck yourself” but she jumped at the opportunity.

Seriously, I bet she and that Casey Anderson chick would give easy other a run for their money. Who’s the craziest bitch?
9/15/2026 3:42:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rigley:


Did you watch the entire clip?

She's using her toe to rock a baby swing.

That's Nathan Fielder by the way. He's known for more outlandish comedies but this seems serious.

We all knew her voice was fake, it was just an act.

Think this will be an interesting documentary. A24 tends to put out high quality movies. Kind of curious why she allowed this because it's only going to make her look crazier.
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What's with the bobble heads?


Did you watch the entire clip?

She's using her toe to rock a baby swing.

That's Nathan Fielder by the way. He's known for more outlandish comedies but this seems serious.

We all knew her voice was fake, it was just an act.

Think this will be an interesting documentary. A24 tends to put out high quality movies. Kind of curious why she allowed this because it's only going to make her look crazier.
Allowed? Isn't she currently in prison?
How can she stop the creation of this film?
The truth is an absolute defense against slander.

Besides, there have been other biography films that targeted other wealthy billionaires who *ARENT* in prison. Like I recall there was at least one that painted Mark Zuckerberg in a bad light.

If Mark Zuckerberg couldn't do anything about the movie "Social Media", then I'm CERTAIN Elizabeth Holmes, sitting in prison... wouldn't be able to do anything about this film.

What a weird thing to say.
9/15/2026 4:42:11 PM EDT
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That bitch is batshit loco, boil your rabbit, cookoo bananas…
Not fly enough to be halal....
9/15/2026 4:56:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 15jonshoot:


And they probably can't wait to get out and unleash havoc upon the world.
Psychopath is probably to mild a term for her.
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It’s crazy to me how easily it seems to spot some psychopaths. She always came off as crazy to me. Yet she tricked some extremely bright or successful people into investing in her. How do people fall for it? Like the televangelist begging for money for a new private jet
9/15/2026 5:00:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ATLDiver:


When that was pitched, a normal person would say “go fuck yourself” but she jumped at the opportunity.

Seriously, I bet she and that Casey Anderson chick would give easy other a run for their money. Who’s the craziest bitch?
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Those two could start an onlyfans when she gets out and make millions the honest way
9/15/2026 5:31:32 PM EDT
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If I recall correctly, Shultz took her side over his own grandson who worked for the company. His grandson had become one of the first whistleblowers inside that her ‘science’ was BS and she was a fraud.

I don’t know if that speaks to how she could manipulate people or George Shultz was a POS old fart simping over a cute piece of ass.
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Good summary.  And Shultz’s grandson was a Theranos employee and the star whistleblower.  Theranos lawyers attacked him mercilessly and nearly bankrupted him.  It also fractured his family but he was vindicated in the end.





If I recall correctly, Shultz took her side over his own grandson who worked for the company. His grandson had become one of the first whistleblowers inside that her ‘science’ was BS and she was a fraud.

I don’t know if that speaks to how she could manipulate people or George Shultz was a POS old fart simping over a cute piece of ass.

He didn't think of her as a piece of ass.  He thought of her as a daughter, and treated her that way, routinely inviting her to intimate family events held at his home.

But yes, he absolutely sided with her over his grandson Tyler, and even helped setup a legal ambush of Tyler in his home, with attorneys representing Theranos there to intimidate Tyler and pressure him to sign additional NDAs under threat of financial ruin.  Fortunately, George Shultz's wife (Tyler's step-grandmother) threw a flag and told Tyler to not sign anything and get out of there.  

Tyler's dad, George Shultz's son, subsequently had to mortgage his home to pay nearly $500K for Tyler's legal defense, while George Shultz continued to support Holmes, even after it was clear there were issues of credibility, if not outright fraud.  For some time it was thought that support was simply due to George Shultz thinking of her as a daughter, but later it was revealed that in addition to his $150K annual payment for being a board member, he had also been granted 500,000 pre-IPO shares of Theranos stock.  Thus, while his ineffectiveness as a board member and failure to provide any sense of corporate governance were likely primarily due to ignorance and being swayed by Holmes, he also had a financial incentive to support her, even over his own family.

And even though he eventually learned of the full scope of her fraud and acknowledged as much to Tyler, he never apologized to him.  He went to his grave without providing that apology.


Tyler and Erika Cheung really were incredibly courageous as whistleblowers, given the threats they faced from Holmes and the law firm representing Theranos, one of the most powerful in the country.  Threats that motivated Avie Tevanian of Apple fame to resign from the Theranos board but agree to keep quiet, and drove the Theranos chief scientist to suicide.
9/15/2026 7:51:31 PM EDT
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Its a Biopic... not a documentary.
9/15/2026 7:57:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ATLDiver:



Well, if you’re a gullible and naive type I guess. Manson isn’t a good case as those he manipulated were crazy to begin with. A better example would be Jim Jones.

In her case a believe this was yet another societal propaganda, the narrative was she was the female Steve Jobs and people wanted that to be true. Again women are better than men, blah, blah, blah narrative was there as well.

Again, a very, very basic science background was all one needed. For a very long time PhD’s and the like simped for her even though “math wasn’t mathin.” There were a few researchers in her company she absolutely shit all over once they figured out she was a con artist. The warning signs were there for a long time but ignored because people wanted to believe.

Strangely, COVID followed the same phenomenon.
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Jim Jones is a Great example.
9/15/2026 8:01:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mamacujo:
I saw an earlier documentary about her. They talked about her voice and played some clips of her talking "normal".  They interviewed her mentor and she said there was absolutely no way the Theranos Edison machine was capable of doing anything Holmes claimed.

I don't understand how she conned so many people.
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An insider working for a billionaire she tried to con was asked the same question- how she managed to dupe so many wealthy people. “She had a pretty butthole,” was the answer.
9/15/2026 8:06:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rigley:


Nah, I think everyone knows she's batshit crazy by now.

There might be people curious of what makes her tick but the actual admirers is probably small.


The people that admire Luigi are likely going to hate Elisabeth Holmes even more. They see her types as part of the problem in our society. Like that Fyre Festival guy that scammed a bunch of people. Wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he hasn't learned his lesson and trying something new too.

Your typical Luigi admirer is not a fan of either of those two, or others like Sam Bankman-Fried.
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Never underestimate GD.  I guess you missed the people in the thread who openly said they would hit it.  And then you probably have a list of basement dwellers that put money on her prison commissary account hoping for a piece once she is released or some penthouse letter.
9/15/2026 8:23:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PatriotAr15:
Its a Biopic... not a documentary.
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Originally Posted By Kilroytheknifesnob:
Looks like it will be a great documentary.
Its a Biopic... not a documentary.

Is it a biopic when the focus is following the actual person, not an actress playing the person?

Nope.

That is Elizabeth Holmes. It is a documentary.

How come people here are having such a difficult time understanding that this is actually Elizabeth Holmes in the film?
9/15/2026 11:21:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xerxes2695:
Wait a minute, back the bus up. That’s actually her?  I assumed it was some actress playing the role of a crazy person!
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2027 Academy Awards ...
"Aaaaaand, the award for best actress in a leading role goes to ... uh ... Elizabeth Holmes ... for, uh, just kind of being herself, I guess..."
9/15/2026 11:25:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By scuba_steve:

He didn't think of her as a piece of ass.  He thought of her as a daughter, and treated her that way, routinely inviting her to intimate family events held at his home.

But yes, he absolutely sided with her over his grandson Tyler, and even helped setup a legal ambush of Tyler in his home, with attorneys representing Theranos there to intimidate Tyler and pressure him to sign additional NDAs under threat of financial ruin.  Fortunately, George Shultz's wife (Tyler's step-grandmother) threw a flag and told Tyler to not sign anything and get out of there.  

Tyler's dad, George Shultz's son, subsequently had to mortgage his home to pay nearly $500K for Tyler's legal defense, while George Shultz continued to support Holmes, even after it was clear there were issues of credibility, if not outright fraud.  For some time it was thought that support was simply due to George Shultz thinking of her as a daughter, but later it was revealed that in addition to his $150K annual payment for being a board member, he had also been granted 500,000 pre-IPO shares of Theranos stock.  Thus, while his ineffectiveness as a board member and failure to provide any sense of corporate governance were likely primarily due to ignorance and being swayed by Holmes, he also had a financial incentive to support her, even over his own family.

And even though he eventually learned of the full scope of her fraud and acknowledged as much to Tyler, he never apologized to him.  He went to his grave without providing that apology.


Tyler and Erika Cheung really were incredibly courageous as whistleblowers, given the threats they faced from Holmes and the law firm representing Theranos, one of the most powerful in the country.  Threats that motivated Avie Tevanian of Apple fame to resign from the Theranos board but agree to keep quiet, and drove the Theranos chief scientist to suicide.
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JFC, that’s worse. Fuck that guy, George that is. Thanks for the details but yeah fuck those people.
9/15/2026 11:59:27 PM EDT
[#48]
I know that look and it is causing some very painful memories to emerge.  It’s the look of a person who is very good at manipulating and knows exactly what they are doing.  Every mannerism and look, head tilt, phrase, voice inflection, etc.  is calculated for maximum effect.  

I want to see this but I am afraid that it would hit a little too close to home given some of my childhood and adolescent experiences.
9/16/2026 3:30:47 AM EDT
[#49]
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Originally Posted By NotIowaNice:
The eyes say it all.
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Apparently, the eyeball thing was part of her "alphagrrrl" staredown act to try to be intimidating during interpersonal interactions. The daughter of an Enron exec, & surprise, surprise, fake as a $3 bill, just like daddy.

Imagine cultivating a farcical personality & ascribing your identity to it. You don't need to imagine, because she did it IRL. I doubt she even knows herself, as is the case with cluster B personality disorder types. One of many, unfortunately.
9/16/2026 4:05:04 AM EDT
[#50]
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Originally Posted By 1975:
Why does anyone even care about this woman?
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Cause she perpetuated one of the greatest frauds ever in business…

Her, the guy from Nikola, and Bernie are some of the best in that game…

Cept Captain Nikola got a pardon… Liz…. Well, she didn’t donate appropriately apparently

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