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Originally Posted By Frank_B: Many people are scared shitless by AI. Some of the worst are found on ham radio forums, and hams are usually thought to be on the cutting edge of technology. This almost go me banned on one forum: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/353196/AI_centaur_and_Mercury-3771323.jpg I think it's cool the Minotaur dude is wearing what looks like Minotaur-fur briefs. |
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When I was younger I was very artistic, b&W photography that I developed and enlarged myself, painting, pencil drawing, charcoal on paper, sculpting ect. I was pretty dam good, good enough that a pencil drawn picture I drew won an award in high school was stolen at the art show, I guess that means my art was valuable enough that someone would steal it.  Take this as an example:  I probably spent more time trying to perfect my technique to create images, the example above, in ComfyUI that I am happy with as it took to draw that picture that won an award that some lowlife, granted a lowlife with good taste  , stole from me.Another example what about using synthesizers in music? it's not "real" sounds but sounds created by an electrical device but there are some simply amazing music that someone created with it. Life got in the way of my artistic side for almost 50 years then I discovered AI a few months ago then my creative side came pouring out. AI is no different, it's a tool that someone with a bit of talent can create something good with. What I create is not AI slop. Is what I have created with AI art? I think it is. |
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Originally Posted By Klee: I was very artistic when I was younger, b&W photography that I developed and enlarged myself, painting, pencil drawing, charcoal on paper, sculpting ect. I was pretty dam good, good enough that a pencil drawn picture I drew won an award in high school was stolen at the art show, I guess that means my art was valuable enough that someone would steal it. Take this as an example: https://i.imgur.com/x0cjCrx.png I probably spent more time trying to perfect my technique to create images in ComfyUI that I am happy with as it took to draw that picture that won an award that some lowlife, granted a lowlife with good taste , stole from me.Another example what about using synthesizers in music? it's not "real" sounds but sounds created by an electrical device but there are some simply amazing music that someone created with it. Life got in the way of my artistic side for almost 50 years then I discovered AI a few months ago then my creative side came pouring out. AI is no different, it's a tool that someone with a bit of talent can create something good with. What I create is not AI slop. Is what I have created with AI art? I think it is. How many hours did it take to develop the skill to be able to draw that picture? I have a similar story to yours. Took up drawing when I was young. Got good enough to win some awards in competition outside of school. Then stopped because I got to busy living and working. Last year I was doodling with my kids and cranked out a rough piece real quick, and they were blown away. Couldn’t believe that I could draw like that. It made me realize I’d been ignoring it and I’ve picked up a pencil and paper more often now. I’ve played with AI art and it’s not the same. Not nearly as satisfying as crafting art with my hands. I found it to be pretty soulless and the opposite of creative. |
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Originally Posted By RayFromJersey: The only thing about AI "art" that annoys me is when people/businesses/governments use it for flyers and such. An example of what I'm talking about: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/394169/IMG_5500_jpeg-3819185.JPG Especially when the details are wrong. Like 6 tail lights on what looks like a ‘69 Charger. |
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Originally Posted By neostoicism: How many hours did it take to develop the skill to be able to draw that picture? I have a similar story to yours. Took up drawing when I was young. Got good enough to win some awards in competition outside of school. Then stopped because I got to busy living and working. Last year I was doodling with my kids and cranked out a rough piece real quick, and they were blown away. Couldn’t believe that I could draw like that. It made me realize I’d been ignoring it and I’ve picked up a pencil and paper more often now. I’ve played with AI art and it’s not the same. Not nearly as satisfying as crafting art with my hands. I found it to be pretty soulless and the opposite of creative. Once I learned how to hold a pencil it was off to the races, in elementary school my teacher gave everyone a ditto copy of a parrot to let us draw our own version, I turned it in at the end of class and she accused me of tracing it, I showed her that my version was a little larger than the example that she wanted me to follow. Nope she didn't want to listen to me and had her mind made up and she gave me an "F" for that. I was devastated, and pissed, and I never did anything else art related in school until I got to high school where I had a art class and the teacher was simply amazing and let me flourish. The artist in me has always been in me and the only thing I needed to learn is how to use the "tool", pencil, brush, clay, camera, enlarger ect to express that onto the what ever medium I was using. What comes out of me not the tool I use, if I dig a hole with a shovel did the shovel dig the hole? |
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I've been doing jigsaw puzzles lately and that's a big topic of conversation. That and the letters on the back. I pick puzzles that have images I won't mind looking at for the time it takes to put them together, I don't care if it's AI. I sometimes use the letters, sometimes I don't. Another cool AI thing is the ASMR videos on YouTube. Like this one  The Enchanted Castle Courtyard | Peaceful Medieval Music & Cozy Fantasy Ambience |
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Originally Posted By TaskForce: All it can do is iterate upon what humans already created. The humans having a unique, inspired, artful expression. Most human expression is sadly derivative, and very little is innovative. A human who can still produce something unique will clearly have an advantage over a machine that cannot. And we are nowhere near machines doing actual brushstrokes or pencil strokes, so maybe human artists should re-visit the old media. |
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Originally Posted By Klee: When I was younger I was very artistic, b&W photography that I developed and enlarged myself, painting, pencil drawing, charcoal on paper, sculpting ect. I was pretty dam good, good enough that a pencil drawn picture I drew won an award in high school was stolen at the art show, I guess that means my art was valuable enough that someone would steal it. Take this as an example: https://i.imgur.com/x0cjCrx.png I probably spent more time trying to perfect my technique to create images in ComfyUI that I am happy with as it took to draw that picture that won an award that some lowlife, granted a lowlife with good taste , stole from me.Another example what about using synthesizers in music? it's not "real" sounds but sounds created by an electrical device but there are some simply amazing music that someone created with it. Life got in the way of my artistic side for almost 50 years then I discovered AI a few months ago then my creative side came pouring out. AI is no different, it's a tool that someone with a bit of talent can create something good with. What I create is not AI slop. Is what I have created with AI art? I think it is.  Again, whether you use a brush, charcoal, or compuker, you still are the one directing/creating the art.
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Originally Posted By Klee: Once I learned how to hold a pencil it was off to the races, in elementary school my teacher gave everyone a ditto copy of a parrot to let us draw our own version, I turned it in at the end of class and she accused me of tracing it, I showed her that my version was a little larger than the example that she wanted me to follow. Nope she didn't want to listen to me and had her mind made up and she gave me an "F" for that. I was devastated, and pissed, and I never did anything else art related in school until I got to high school where I had a art class and the teacher was simply amazing and let me flourish. The artist in me has always been in me and the only thing I needed to learn is how to use the "tool", pencil, brush, clay, camera, enlarger ect to express that onto the what ever medium I was using. What comes out of me not the tool I use, if I dig a hole with a shovel did the shovel dig the hole? AI art didn’t come out of you. It came out of a computer after you wrote a paragraph of words. If you direct (by writing an email to them) 10 guys to dig a hole, did you dig the hole? |
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Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam: Most human expression is sadly derivative, and very little is innovative. A human who can still produce something unique will clearly have an advantage over a machine that cannot. And we are nowhere near machines doing actual brushstrokes or pencil strokes, so maybe human artists should re-visit the old media. It isn't sad it's just natural that most things would be derivative. Nothing wrong with that. |
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Originally Posted By Hadrian: Soon you won't be able to tell the difference. You should come to terms with that. Originally Posted By Hadrian: Originally Posted By ffemt596: It's artificial. That's why it sucks. Sweet as saccharine. That point has already been crossed. I don't know if AI art is art. I do know that one could spend 100's of hours learning AI image generation and still have plenty to learn. It's a cool hobby if you're willing to spend the 2-3K on a capable computer. |
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Originally Posted By sleevefullofaces: 95% of AI art looks like shit. I started doing this because when my lady visits I get up late because I'm nocturnal. That leaves her with too much time on her hands until I get up. It's also been too hot to do yard work. I was unaware there are puzzle competitions. There are a bunch of YouTube channels about puzzles. I had no idea. This one was tough but not as tough as it would have been if it would have been a single color Attached File I don't think this required an "artist" Attached File This one is probably AI. I don't care. I'm going to make a puzzle wall 
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Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher: When everything is fake, nothing is real. Just wait until pictures, audio, and video created by AI is completely indistinguishable from what is real. Politics will be forever ruined - conservatives will be portrayed as villains; communists will be portrayed as saviors. Our favorite politicians will spout unimaginable screed and spend all their time trying in vain to convince the electorate he/she never uttered those words. It's going to be great. |
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: It's not art. AI art and AI music are completely lacking in soul. If you disagree, so do you. However, on this, my friend, I think you are wrong. Again, whether it be brush, pen, or mouse, it is still a human driving the art. |
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Originally Posted By Klee:Once I learned how to hold a pencil it was off to the races, in elementary school my teacher gave everyone a ditto copy of a parrot to let us draw our own version, I turned it in at the end of class and she accused me of tracing it, I showed her that my version was a little larger than the example that she wanted me to follow. Nope she didn't want to listen to me and had her mind made up and she gave me an "F" for that. I was devastated, and pissed, and I never did anything else art related in school until I got to high school where I had a art class and the teacher was simply amazing and let me flourish. The artist in me has always been in me and the only thing I needed to learn is how to use the "tool", pencil, brush, clay, camera, enlarger ect to express that onto the what ever medium I was using. What comes out of me not the tool I use, if I dig a hole with a shovel did the shovel dig the hole?  |
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Originally Posted By Klee: Not me. I created these with ComfyUI on my RTX 3090 Ti. Yes I created it, the AI model didn't do shit until I told it what to do. It is just a tool and depending on who is using it makes a huge difference, some no talent random person using AI yea it will be slop but someone with a little talent can create really good stuff with AI. https://i.imgur.com/2IZj4He.png https://i.imgur.com/TI3HuA3.png https://i.imgur.com/qayKvUb.png https://i.imgur.com/lJG1khU.png https://i.imgur.com/q7KnrLI.png https://i.imgur.com/dGUvYpZ.png https://i.imgur.com/vB77BjN.png https://i.imgur.com/euvODHA.png https://i.imgur.com/n0Vrkjl.png I also created GD's perfect woman. https://i.imgur.com/HJfagDx.png Literally none of this is "good". |
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Are you looking at art on a video screen, or a physical rendering? I have folk art that has been in the family since the ‘70s, and met the artist in 2005. A $40 painting then is $1000 plus today. A group called the Highwaymen, in south Florida. Some have called it mass production Bob Ross painting. But still the direct human touch. There is a connection with the human brush to canvas that AI doesn’t have. |
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Originally Posted By TaskForce: Thinking you created something because you put a few words into a prompt is adorable.   |
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Originally Posted By M1907Sling: This. Guy. Gets. It. Again, whether you use a brush, charcoal, or compuker, you still are the one directing/creating the art.Originally Posted By M1907Sling: Originally Posted By Klee: When I was younger I was very artistic, b&W photography that I developed and enlarged myself, painting, pencil drawing, charcoal on paper, sculpting ect. I was pretty dam good, good enough that a pencil drawn picture I drew won an award in high school was stolen at the art show, I guess that means my art was valuable enough that someone would steal it. Take this as an example: https://i.imgur.com/x0cjCrx.png I probably spent more time trying to perfect my technique to create images in ComfyUI that I am happy with as it took to draw that picture that won an award that some lowlife, granted a lowlife with good taste , stole from me.Another example what about using synthesizers in music? it's not "real" sounds but sounds created by an electrical device but there are some simply amazing music that someone created with it. Life got in the way of my artistic side for almost 50 years then I discovered AI a few months ago then my creative side came pouring out. AI is no different, it's a tool that someone with a bit of talent can create something good with. What I create is not AI slop. Is what I have created with AI art? I think it is. Again, whether you use a brush, charcoal, or compuker, you still are the one directing/creating the art.Whats funny is before I started to play around with local AI and ComfyUI a couple of months ago I was just as anti AI art as most are here. |
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AI art is machine made. It may be attractive to some people, but it will never be valuable. Also, the art in the OP is not at all attractive to me. I prefer this: Attached File |
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Originally Posted By M1907Sling: Elon Musk directs THOUSANDS of scientists, engineers, welders, and machinists to create the rockets that will take us to the moon, and Mars. Oh yeah, I'm just CERTAIN they would have come up with that, all on their own, without a prompt from a great, creative mind, showing them the way... 
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They say "Art is in the eye of the beholder". Art is many different things to many different people, everyone is entitled to like what they like and dislike what they don't like. As long as I am doing something creative and using what ever outlet that lets me create, express myself and enjoy it I will. Even if a single person likes something I created i'm very ok with that but if you don't i'm ok with that too. |
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The generative AI that people are using to create images is good to satisfy their hobby or kill time. It lacks the fidelity and ability to be iterated on for the level of control stakeholders or AD's would want to be a public facing asset. It's a good tool for the concept phase but sharing outside that would be embarrassing. |
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Originally Posted By failure: The generative AI that people are using to create images is good to satisfy their hobby or kill time. It lacks the fidelity and ability to be iterated on for the level of control stakeholders or AD's would want to be a public facing asset. It's a good tool for the concept phase but sharing outside that would be embarrassing. I think it's also good for advertising and commercial applications. There have been good examples posted in GD. |
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Your move AI (6’ x 8’): https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285/IMG_0724-3819261.jpg I knew you would find this thread. Ai cleanse, heres one I just finished as a gift for a friends wedding. The only “paint” is the gilders paste to add the gold highlights, otherwise all the coloration was done with acids reacting with steel and brass Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By TaskForce: Originally Posted By TaskForce: Originally Posted By M1907Sling: Elon Musk directs THOUSANDS of scientists, engineers, welders, and machinists to create the rockets that will take us to the moon, and Mars. Oh yeah, I'm just CERTAIN they would have come up with that, all on their own, without a prompt from a great, creative mind, showing them the way... OK, help me out here. It's easy to mock & ridicule; is there any substance to your point? Elon Musk, Walt Disney, Robert Oppenheimer were all the brains behind massively brilliant ideas, ideas that would never have happened w/o them. Do you have a real point, or are you just a useless troll?  |
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Originally Posted By M1907Sling: Elon Musk directs THOUSANDS of scientists, engineers, welders, and machinists to create the rockets that will take us to the moon, and Mars. Oh yeah, I'm just CERTAIN they would have come up with that, all on their own, without a prompt from a great, creative mind, showing them the way... Elon isn’t telling them how to create those rockets. He’s not designing the rockets. He provides the capital for them to spend in pursuit of that goal, and tells them to create a rocket. His employees are the geniuses and the ones creating those prducts. Not Elon. It’s adorable you think he’s personally telling actual rocket scientists how to make rockets. |
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Originally Posted By mancat: Let's say I have a building and in that building I employ 30 artists. I tell them what to paint. They go in, they paint it, they come back with 30 pieces of art that match my directives as best as they can. My job is just to either pick one, or tell them how they're wrong and send them back until they return with something that is more to my liking. Can I call myself the artist? Nope. I would call you a shitty boss if you did that. JK Because you are dealing with 30 individual people who you say are already artists that left to their own devises would produce art completely by themselves, not a mindless software stack that would do nothing at all until you give it direct and very specific commands in the order needed to create what you wanted to be created. I would call you a |
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Originally Posted By neostoicism: Elon isn’t telling them how to create those rockets. He’s not designing the rockets. He provides the capital for them to spend in pursuit of that goal, and tells them to create a rocket. His employees are the geniuses and the ones creating those prducts. Not Elon. It’s adorable you think he’s personally telling actual rocket scientists how to make rockets. Elon is the genius behind the geniuses. They are specialists, he's the generalist. They are the talent. Probably every one of them is replaceable. Musk is not. He's a one-off. |
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Originally Posted By M1907Sling: @TaskForce ; OK, help me out here. It's easy to mock & ridicule; is there any substance to your point? Elon Musk, Walt Disney, Robert Oppenheimer were all the brains behind massively brilliant ideas, ideas that would never have happened w/o them. Do you have a real point, or are you just a useless troll? This is so all over the place I cannot continue with this discussion. You have defeated me. |
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