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Originally Posted By Bacon_Grease: That slate truck also looks pretty interesting. But I'm only down for one scam at a time. If you want to take time I can point you to the production facility in Warsaw IN if you want to run by. Not tours tho |
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Originally Posted By Ayada: Let's see it get at least the tiniest bit of traction first before calling it an Elio, right now this is more reminiscent of the wave of small EV truck concepts we saw in 2022-2023. Alpha Wolf is the one that I always think of, and where did that end up? Biggest difference here is attracting the "I wanted a Slate but with a gas motor" crew and with a $25 deposit I'm sure they'll pack in a few hardbody enthusiasts who have no intention on following through but can dream for a little while.  |
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Originally Posted By AKSig: Maybe 2-3 people out of all the bullshitters here that said they would buy a basic bitch truck if they could will get one.  Then those county trucks that workers use. Then the 16-20 crowd will have an affordable vehicle. |
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Originally Posted By DirtyDirk: Wow, you want a loaded vehicle, Power windows, power door locks, A/C, keyed entry. I'd doubt you'll see most of that stuff. On a small vehicle like that you don't need power windows and locks, it's easy to reach over and operate them. I suspect A/C might be an option, after all vast majority of Americans are too soft to go without. I'd love a no A/C vehicle, I only use the A/C in my car now when the wife is along and then only if its over 80 outside. 2 55 air baby!! Originally Posted By DirtyDirk: Originally Posted By sandboxmedic: I'd love to have an original REO Speedwagon or one of their 30s sedans, with no idea what these new vehicle look like I'll wait. That said, yeah, if it's pretty basic then I may actually be interested. The only conveniences I want are power windows and doors and A/C and it should have keyed entry on both front doors. I prefer an analog dash and I don't want a bunch of telemetry and "smart" gizmos, a basic radio that I can connect a phone to or put a SD card in is just fine (and what I have in my truck now). ETA- For those who don't know, the REO Speedwagon was a real truck and where the band got its name. They also made military vehicles during the war. Wow, you want a loaded vehicle, Power windows, power door locks, A/C, keyed entry. I'd doubt you'll see most of that stuff. On a small vehicle like that you don't need power windows and locks, it's easy to reach over and operate them. I suspect A/C might be an option, after all vast majority of Americans are too soft to go without. I'd love a no A/C vehicle, I only use the A/C in my car now when the wife is along and then only if its over 80 outside. 2 55 air baby!! I said want, I didn't say need. Power windows and door locks have been pretty standard since the 90s even on base model vehicles, there's not much to them and even before then you could buy kits from JC Whitney to install yourself. Not sure when keyed doors became a premium feature? I don't care about a key fob. I'm sure A/C will be an option- I want it, it's not mandatory as I don't use mine most of the year now even here in SC or when I lived in Asia (and the one in my Tacoma is currently broken and I haven't gotten around to repairing it). I've owned a couple dozen vehicles at this point and never an automatic. My primary vehicle for much of my adult life was a FJ40, first a '75 then for a long time an '80 FJ40 (which I foolishly sold) but I've also owned a FJ60, multiple air cooled VWs (nothing power on them and no A/C), Fiat Spider and motorcycles. I think I'll be fine with a basic vehicle.  No, I will not be putting any money down until they have an actual product available to purchase. ETA- I do wish companies would bring back wing/vent windows though, modern cars don't pull air in like old ones and it was nice to be able to direct the air flow. Even my '80 FJ40 had done away with them, the '75 had them. |
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Originally Posted By DubyaB: I wonder how many back out? situations change for people, maybe 50% 60%? In next 1 -2 years whenever they deliver. Could in reality be fairly low number Public announcements was 7-8k $500 refundable deposits. They sold better than that first year. There were a lot of refunds. I was one. But this was a $85k truck which makes a difference in expectation |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Vaporware and the people buying reservations will never see a truck. Good thing it's refundable, if you ever actually get your money back, which you probably won't. Tho your prolly right! |
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Originally Posted By Alacrity: LOL Slate Auto is legit and the original CEO Chris Barman is a known quantity. If you want to take time I can point you to the production facility in Warsaw IN if you want to run by. Not tours tho Originally Posted By Alacrity: Originally Posted By Bacon_Grease: That slate truck also looks pretty interesting. But I'm only down for one scam at a time. If you want to take time I can point you to the production facility in Warsaw IN if you want to run by. Not tours tho When do you think they will be on the market for purchase instead of pre-order? while I paid the 25 for entertainment for this. If an actual vehicle manifests under 30k that I can purchase. I will. I looking to get a Maverick as soon as some personal family stuff is solved. |
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Originally Posted By Bacon_Grease: When do you think they will be on the market for purchase instead of pre-order? while I paid the 25 for entertainment for this. If an actual vehicle manifests under 30k that I can purchase. I will. I looking to get a Maverick as soon as some personal family stuff is solved. 2030 at best if you go by the timeline on the website. I probably wouldn’t hold off on a Maverick purchase for that long of a time on a chance something comes out. |
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Originally Posted By Alacrity: It's a $25 option for early access to an opportunity of a lifetime! THIS is GD's moment! What do the ascetics and cheap asses amongst us have to lose . . . outside $25 I refuse to put money down on something I hope gets made. I don't do kickstarter, preorders, none of that. If this truck is what it says, it would suit me fine. I was actually awaiting the Slate release, but would much rather have ICE. |
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Originally Posted By Ayada: 2030 at best if you go by the timeline on the website. I probably wouldn’t hold off on a Maverick purchase for that long of a time on a chance something comes out. Originally Posted By Ayada: Originally Posted By Bacon_Grease: When do you think they will be on the market for purchase instead of pre-order? while I paid the 25 for entertainment for this. If an actual vehicle manifests under 30k that I can purchase. I will. I looking to get a Maverick as soon as some personal family stuff is solved. 2030 at best if you go by the timeline on the website. I probably wouldn’t hold off on a Maverick purchase for that long of a time on a chance something comes out. I'm talking about the Slate truck here. They're indicating production this year for those. So I was wondering when it will be up for regular sale. For a Maverick I was actually looking at buying one earlier this year but family stuff became more important. So I'll probably purchase something by the end of this year before either of these things come to market officially.
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Originally Posted By AKSig: Maybe 2-3 people out of all the bullshitters here that said they would buy a basic bitch truck if they could will get one. If this was available today we would probably buy 2 of em. Would make good trucks for foreman and Pm's, could carry some material out to jobs with out being too pricey. |
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Originally Posted By Ayada: Let's see it get at least the tiniest bit of traction first before calling it an Elio, right now this is more reminiscent of the wave of small EV truck concepts we saw in 2022-2023. Alpha Wolf is the one that I always think of, and where did that end up? Biggest difference here is attracting the "I wanted a Slate but with a gas motor" crew and with a $25 deposit I'm sure they'll pack in a few hardbody enthusiasts who have no intention on following through but can dream for a little while. Funny you mention the hardbody. I drove mine to work today. 5MT, 4wd, manual windows, no cruise, no AC (gonna be 90 today) but until it dies I have no use for another small truck. Still going strong after 40 years though. 4/86 build date and Japan built unlike the 87+. |
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The current target roadmap is: model reveal in Q4 2026, pilot builds and validation in 2027, order book and configurator in 2028, and first deliveries in late 2028/2029. These are targets and may change as the vehicle moves through design, validation, certification, and production. Is this what the truck is going to look like? No. The visuals you see today are not production designs, and they are not even final concept designs. They are early directional imagery for the idea and attitude of the vehicle. Real model reveals, production design, specifications, colors, options, and configurator details come later. |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: I think the Maverick was almost this cheap at introduction wasn’t it? Don’t remember what Ford’s initial price was. Of course then it went up. Ya I remember is was touted at around 20k when they first mentioned it in production. Now the most base of models shows for 28k on the website and is 30+ at the actual dealership. |
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Originally Posted By VVinci: Should've been the first post, because it nailed it. You're slipping @Alacrity , I've been trying to convince the rubber floor mat crowd to put down their deposits on these things for days now on another board. And we need at least one thread on that massive Honda recall on their SUVs for subframe failures or whatever it was.  There would be 10 threads if it was Ford.Originally Posted By VVinci: Originally Posted By AKSig: Maybe 2-3 people out of all the bullshitters here that said they would buy a basic bitch truck if they could will get one. Should've been the first post, because it nailed it. You're slipping @Alacrity , I've been trying to convince the rubber floor mat crowd to put down their deposits on these things for days now on another board. And we need at least one thread on that massive Honda recall on their SUVs for subframe failures or whatever it was. There would be 10 threads if it was Ford.I bought my 2023 XL Maverick new. It now has 75k miles. Love it. These 2 door, 2 seat trucks are not acceptable to me. |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: I think the Maverick was almost this cheap at introduction wasn't it? Don't remember what Ford's initial price was. Of course then it went up. "Starting from $19,995" Plus destination. Given the very few zero option Hybrid XLs that made it to dealer lots before the mid year roll up to $22,450 - with ADM and rapacious accessorizing, I'm morally certain very few of those transacted at even MSRP+destination |
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Originally Posted By Alacrity: Purchase through for Ineos was pretty high on a percentage basis. Public announcements was 7-8k $500 refundable deposits. They sold better than that first year. There were a lot of refunds. I was one. But this was a $85k truck which makes a difference in expectation And we saw what happened with Tesla Cybertruck reservations.... |
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Originally Posted By mustb123: I bought my 2023 XL Maverick new. It now has 75k miles. Love it. These 2 door, 2 seat trucks are not acceptable to me. I agree with the lack of a back seat being a non starter…. I had a regular cab F150 years ago and I’d never have one again. |
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Originally Posted By McGuy: More trivia, REO was started by the guy who founded Oldsmobile. He called himsef Ransom E Olds. His middle name was Eli. Is that why the name Elios keeps popping up on this thread? In my youth, there was an Oldsmobile factory in Lansing, as well as a REO factory. Now all that remains of the name is a museum. |
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I think that this will probably never happen. If it does somehow happen, it will not be available until 2030 at the earliest, and it will cost $30K. Neither this nor the Slate are superior to something like the Maverick or the Santa Fe, and nobody will buy them. |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: I agree with the lack of a back seat being a non starter…. I had a regular cab F150 years ago and I’d never have one again. Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By mustb123: I bought my 2023 XL Maverick new. It now has 75k miles. Love it. These 2 door, 2 seat trucks are not acceptable to me. I agree with the lack of a back seat being a non starter…. I had a regular cab F150 years ago and I’d never have one again. They show 4 door and SUV Also |
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Frankly, this could actually work, at least in concept. Everybody is looking at this as their only truck or even only vehicle. I don't think that is the intent. These trucks will fill the gap between SxS and 60-75k full size mall crawlers and HD tow rigs. Nobody, honestly, likes riding around town in their SxS with a snowmobile engine screaming at them all the while annoying the shit out of everyone else on the road. They're just a motorized version of road bicyclists. Everyone knows the crewcab dually is pain in the ass to get around with in town and something like a cheap midsize like this will keep you from piling on the miles on your very expensive truck by under utilizing it as a commuter grocery getter. Your 100k truck will last 20 years easy if only used for its intended purposes. If they can produce a "real" usable truck that is tough, easy to maintain and repair, with proper suspension and non-electric powertrains, they might be on to something. But only at the stated price point. Think of a cross between a old school Scout II and a Hilux. Great for hunting, fishing, farm work, chore work and the aftermarket will jump at a new market to fill. |
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Originally Posted By PepePewPew: He called himsef Ransom E Olds. His middle name was Eli. Is that why the name Elios keeps popping up on this thread? In my youth, there was an Oldsmobile factory in Lansing, as well as a REO factory. Now all that remains of the name is a museum. Originally Posted By PepePewPew: He called himsef Ransom E Olds. His middle name was Eli. Is that why the name Elios keeps popping up on this thread? In my youth, there was an Oldsmobile factory in Lansing, as well as a REO factory. Now all that remains of the name is a museum. Elios was a car company doing the same as REO. They never delivered. Basically these pre-order/reserve start up projects never really pan out. Originally Posted By DK-Prof: I think that this will probably never happen. If it does somehow happen, it will not be available until 2030 at the earliest, and it will cost $30K. Neither this nor the Slate are superior to something like the Maverick or the Santa Fe, and nobody will buy them. Yep. The only way this works is they not only deliver on the promise but the vehicles wind up at dealers for purchase or though some network in workable numbers. It's never going to happen but I can dream. |