Russia / Iran / China - The New Axis Megathread (Page 2027 of 2027)
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Originally Posted By stone-age: Trump is pathologically transactional. He doesn't give anything unless he gets something. So what is he willing to give to zelensky in return for zelensky calling an end to the attacks on Russian fuel? Originally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By PsyTek: Originally Posted By MFP_4073: Putin must have placed a call to Trump. ============= Trump Urges Ukraine to Halt Russia Oil Strikes By Charlie McCarthy | Monday, 21 September 2026 08:10 AM EDT President Donald Trump on Sunday asked Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to stop Kyiv's strikes on Russian refineries over concerns that the attacks are driving up global diesel prices, it was reported. Trump repeatedly focused on diesel during his phone call with Zelenskyy and urged Ukraine to halt drone and missile attacks on Russian energy facilities, the Financial Times reported Monday, citing people familiar with the conversation. The president was particularly concerned about rising diesel prices and maintaining Russian supplies on the global market, according to the FT. Axios separately reported that Trump repeatedly pressed Zelenskyy about the refinery attacks during the call, with a person familiar with the conversation saying diesel was raised numerous times. The discussion came amid a global squeeze on diesel supplies that has sent prices sharply higher in the United States. https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-ukraine-volodymyr-zelenskyy/2026/09/21/id/1270088/ ========================== Please don't defend your country because it's making me look bad. Also, ignore that whole middle east thing, that has nothing whatsoever to do with diesel prices! Trump is pathologically transactional. He doesn't give anything unless he gets something. So what is he willing to give to zelensky in return for zelensky calling an end to the attacks on Russian fuel? Sucking up to Putin is more than just a transactional relationship attempt. His actions and behavior in Alaska showed that. |
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Originally Posted By Tiberius: It’s pretty obvious, it’s just like here. The Left weaponized the state and Techbros against thier enemies (us), and were enthusiastic Putin-Puffers until Putin pissed in thier faces with the ‘14. Now, of course, due to that they hate Putin with a hysterical intensity…..a lot of folks hate the shitlibs so much they assume anyone they hate that much is thier friend. It’s how Trump got Elected, and ultimately re-Elected, and at the bottom of why they hate Ukraine even though it has a backstory that should make them total CHADs in thier eyes. It’s a compelling argument, one I have to work to resist because I know the truth….the Russians hate us and want to kill us. Originally Posted By Tiberius: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By Longshore87:I will agree that Slovakia is an issue. If they just sit on their hands and don’t participate in the near future though it’s not like we are losing much. Long term if Ukraine falls it’s much more of an issue. It's not just Slovakia, and Hungary until Orban lost. Look at AfD surging in Germany. Their Federal elections are next year. Look at RN in France, where Le Pen recently said she'd flat-out end aid to Ukraine - their national election is next year, also. What is Putin's goal? A multipolar world. Rebuilding Imperial Russia is only one side of the coin. Tearing down western power is the other side. If you get Fico's view repeated in Europe's biggest powers, NATO is in terminal decline. That seems destabilizing. What infuriates me is that the political Right in Europe is correct on domestic issues, but simultaneously wrong on Russia. I don't even understand why. Anti-immigration? Great. Pro-Russia? Uhh... no. It’s pretty obvious, it’s just like here. The Left weaponized the state and Techbros against thier enemies (us), and were enthusiastic Putin-Puffers until Putin pissed in thier faces with the ‘14. Now, of course, due to that they hate Putin with a hysterical intensity…..a lot of folks hate the shitlibs so much they assume anyone they hate that much is thier friend. It’s how Trump got Elected, and ultimately re-Elected, and at the bottom of why they hate Ukraine even though it has a backstory that should make them total CHADs in thier eyes. It’s a compelling argument, one I have to work to resist because I know the truth….the Russians hate us and want to kill us. AfD doesn't have the numbers to form a national govt. after Federal elections. Anyone claiming "surging" is weird. Like claiming the Dems are "surging" after a local NYC election. AfD is also led by a self-hating married lesbian with adopted kids who isn't even living in Germany. lol, how any morons relate that Kremlin puppet group to being "nationalist" or having any real "values" is insane. |
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: The bat signal has definitely gone out on social media that diesel prices are high because Zelensky doesn't want Trump to be president. Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: It's possible Zelensky broke some agreement but my bet is that Russia broke it first. Anyway, Trump's open, public response is childish. The late August Pentagon "leak" admitted the US Govt is paying online influencers to work at the Pentagon (and parrot propaganda talking points). Our tax dollars are funding Kremlin talking point scripts getting coordinated out of the Pentagon. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/08/30/pentagon-secretly-installs-military-influencers-civilian-roles/ |
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Originally Posted By SierraNV: If anyone still doubted the US is being ran by a Putin puppet. The oil "deals" direct with Russia are next. Originally Posted By SierraNV: If anyone still doubted the US is being ran by a Putin puppet. Trump Says Potash Deal With Belarus in Works Amid Canada Fight President Donald Trump said the US is working with Belarus to secure more supplies of potash amid a trade fight with Canada, a major supplier of the critical ingredient used in fertilizers. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-09-21/trump-says-potash-deal-with-belarus-in-works-amid-canada-fight The oil "deals" direct with Russia are next. Maybe, but on anything Belarus I'd temper that a bit. The administration's gotten a lot out of Belarus, by all accounts, not just theirs. Belarus Frees 25 Political Prisoners in Exchange for U.S. Sanctions Relief The deal is part of the Trump administration’s more transactional approach to a close Russian ally that Europe has tried to isolate. Belarus on Wednesday released 25 political prisoners after a visit from President Trump’s envoy, continuing a thaw in relations between the United States and the Eastern European nation’s autocratic leader, Aleksandr G. Lukashenko. The prisoner release was the latest in a long series that began last year when the Trump administration, unlike the European Union, shifted away from sanctions against Belarus — Russia’s neighbor and closest ally — to embrace negotiations. The United States had hoped to get 200 people released on Wednesday. Despite getting far fewer freed, the Trump administration appeared eager to push on with rapprochement, hoping that Mr. Lukashenko, a tough and cunning negotiator seasoned by years of dealing with the Kremlin, will release more later. The prisoner release followed talks in the Belarusian capital, Minsk, between Mr. Lukashenko and the U.S. special envoy for Belarus, John Coale, a lawyer and friend of Mr. Trump’s with little previous government experience. In a telephone interview, Mr. Coale said he was “almost positive” that a larger number of prisoners would be released “about a month from now.” Declaring his talks a success, he said, “We used what you would call Donald Trumpism — very friendly, but very direct — and we got a lot of things done.” ... https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/16/world/europe/belarus-political-prisoner-release-us-sanctions.html |
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Originally Posted By SierraNV: If anyone still doubted the US is being ran by a Putin puppet. The oil "deals" direct with Russia are next. Originally Posted By SierraNV: If anyone still doubted the US is being ran by a Putin puppet. Trump Says Potash Deal With Belarus in Works Amid Canada Fight President Donald Trump said the US is working with Belarus to secure more supplies of potash amid a trade fight with Canada, a major supplier of the critical ingredient used in fertilizers. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-09-21/trump-says-potash-deal-with-belarus-in-works-amid-canada-fight The oil "deals" direct with Russia are next.  
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: It's possible Zelensky broke some agreement but my bet is that Russia broke it first. Anyway, Trump's open, public response is childish. Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By 15fanatic: Now we see the talking point today. Trump just had to tweet out that complete lie he made up (ukraine nor russia agreed to anything)
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It's possible Zelensky broke some agreement but my bet is that Russia broke it first. Anyway, Trump's open, public response is childish. The amount of time that Russia doesn't break it's agreements is pretty close to zero. |
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Originally Posted By SierraNV: AfD doesn't have the numbers to form a national govt. after Federal elections. Anyone claiming "surging" is weird. Like claiming the Dems are "surging" after a local NYC election. AfD is also led by a self-hating married lesbian with adopted kids who isn't even living in Germany. lol, how any morons relate that Kremlin puppet group to being "nationalist" or having any real "values" is insane. They won the plurality in Merz' home state. That doesn't bode well for the national elections next year. Or it bodes well, if you're and AfD fan, which much of GD is. BTW, AfD just won a plurality in another state (albeit, an insignificant one). So far, it looks like AfD is on track for Germany to go the way of France: the centrist government loses to the Right, but the coalition of Left-wing parties comes together to form a ruling coalition, giving more power to the far-Left. |
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Originally Posted By Haub: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HSv-T1zW8AAPeEk?format=jpg&name=small
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"It's a great deal. Actually the greatest deal of all times. I did it. Belarus, strong country, actually just like the US and like me, lead by a strong leader, quite frankly very strong. Their potash is the best, better than Canada. We don't need Canada, we have Belarus." You can't make this shit up. 
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: They won the plurality in Merz' home state. That doesn't bode well for the national elections next year. Or it bodes well, if you're and AfD fan, which much of GD is. BTW, AfD just won a plurality in another state (albeit, an insignificant one). So far, it looks like AfD is on track for Germany to go the way of France: the centrist government loses to the Right, but the coalition of Left-wing parties comes together to form a ruling coalition, giving more power to the far-Left. Maybe one day Germany (and Europe) can get a right of center party that that could reverse the national suicide but is not linked directly to the Kremlin (or wants death camps)... |
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Originally Posted By absael: "It's a great deal. Actually the greatest deal of all times. I did it. Belarus, strong country, actually just like the US and like me, lead by a strong leader, quite frankly very strong. Their potash is the best, better than Canada. We don't need Canada, we have Belarus." You can't make this shit up. Yes absurd. But like with everything Trump says/posts we have to look at the actual details and concrete actions rather than get distracted by the bloviating. This may be a good, equally absurd, response to Canada becoming a junior member of the EU. Im sure Putin immediately call Lukashenko..."Luke! You are MY bitch NOT Don's". |
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Canada bad! Belarus good! And remember, the entire trade war with canada supposedly started because they tariff our milk. "Belarus designates the United States as an “unfriendly country.” Under a Belarusian government resolution that took effect January 1, 2026, Belarus prohibits the import and domestic sale of specified goods originating in “unfriendly countries.” The U.S. is included in that category. The important part is that the prohibition applies to specific product categories listed in the government's annexes, rather than everything manufactured in America. For example, the current list includes agricultural/food products. The 2026 list begins with things such as fresh or chilled beef. There are also separate restrictions covering goods originating from particular unfriendly countries. Since 2022, Belarus has had legislation permitting certain unlicensed use of intellectual property belonging to companies and individuals from designated “unfriendly states,” including the United States. The U.S. Trade Representative specifically says this includes things such as copyrighted computer programs, broadcasts, audiovisual works and music. The U.S. State Department likewise reports that Belarus legalized violations of intellectual-property rights belonging to citizens of “unfriendly states,” including the United States." |
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Originally Posted By 15fanatic: Canada bad! Belarus good! And remember, the entire trade war with canada supposedly started because they tariff our milk. "Belarus designates the United States as an “unfriendly country.” Under a Belarusian government resolution that took effect January 1, 2026, Belarus prohibits the import and domestic sale of specified goods originating in “unfriendly countries.” The U.S. is included in that category. The important part is that the prohibition applies to specific product categories listed in the government's annexes, rather than everything manufactured in America. For example, the current list includes agricultural/food products. The 2026 list begins with things such as fresh or chilled beef. There are also separate restrictions covering goods originating from particular unfriendly countries. Since 2022, Belarus has had legislation permitting certain unlicensed use of intellectual property belonging to companies and individuals from designated “unfriendly states,” including the United States. The U.S. Trade Representative specifically says this includes things such as copyrighted computer programs, broadcasts, audiovisual works and music. The U.S. State Department likewise reports that Belarus legalized violations of intellectual-property rights belonging to citizens of “unfriendly states,” including the United States." Supposedly started because of milk? You really think the trade war with Canada is because of their tariffs on our milk? LOL |
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Well yeah of course none would be available this year. 2026 is almost over. Contracts for most commodities are for months or years out. 90+% of deliveries of Potash to the U.S. happens from March-May and September-November. |
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Originally Posted By absael: "It's a great deal. Actually the greatest deal of all times. I did it. Belarus, strong country, actually just like the US and like me, lead by a strong leader, quite frankly very strong. Their potash is the best, better than Canada. We don't need Canada, we have Belarus." You can't make this shit up. Originally Posted By absael: Originally Posted By Haub: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HSv-T1zW8AAPeEk?format=jpg&name=small
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"It's a great deal. Actually the greatest deal of all times. I did it. Belarus, strong country, actually just like the US and like me, lead by a strong leader, quite frankly very strong. Their potash is the best, better than Canada. We don't need Canada, we have Belarus." You can't make this shit up. Not gonna lie, I dont think Trump actually said that but knowing his commentary style- its completely on point. I guarantee. |
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Originally Posted By Longshore87: Well yeah of course none would be available this year. 2026 is almost over. Contracts for most commodities are for months or years out. 90+% of deliveries of Potash to the U.S. happens from March-May and September-November. Originally Posted By Longshore87: Well yeah of course none would be available this year. 2026 is almost over. Contracts for most commodities are for months or years out. 90+% of deliveries of Potash to the U.S. happens from March-May and September-November. Hmmm. I guess we've already got some headed our way... "The first Belarus cargo of fertilizer to the US in four years, a 30,000 metric tonnes (t) cargo of MOP, is expected to arrive at New Orleans next month. It would mark the first potash trade between the two countries since US sanctions on Belarusian potash were lifted in December." Either way, I think its bs we're turning to a putin puppet country. https://www.argusmedia.com/en/news-and-insights/latest-market-news/2880995-trump-eyes-belarus-potash-deal-to-undercut-canada |
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Originally Posted By absael: "It's a great deal. Actually the greatest deal of all times. I did it. Belarus, strong country, actually just like the US and like me, lead by a strong leader, quite frankly very strong. Their potash is the best, better than Canada. We don't need Canada, we have Belarus." You can't make this shit up. Originally Posted By absael: Originally Posted By Haub: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HSv-T1zW8AAPeEk?format=jpg&name=small
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"It's a great deal. Actually the greatest deal of all times. I did it. Belarus, strong country, actually just like the US and like me, lead by a strong leader, quite frankly very strong. Their potash is the best, better than Canada. We don't need Canada, we have Belarus." You can't make this shit up. When I read what you quoted I thought you were quoting somebody who was making a joke by being ridiculous. Then I see it actually is what president trump said. |
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Originally Posted By Haub: Hmmm. I guess we've already got some headed our way... "The first Belarus cargo of fertilizer to the US in four years, a 30,000 metric tonnes (t) cargo of MOP, is expected to arrive at New Orleans next month. It would mark the first potash trade between the two countries since US sanctions on Belarusian potash were lifted in December." Either way, I think its bs we're turning to a putin puppet country. https://www.argusmedia.com/en/news-and-insights/latest-market-news/2880995-trump-eyes-belarus-potash-deal-to-undercut-canada I was adding context to the headlines you posted. 30,000 metric tons is .23% of the total we import a year. So that shipment is primarily symbolic or you could say a political signal. Edit: After digging into it more. It looks like we made orders for Potash from Belarus starting back in early summer. Restrictions were lifted on Potash from Belarus back in March. |
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Originally Posted By Prime: Maybe, but on anything Belarus I'd temper that a bit. The administration's gotten a lot out of Belarus, by all accounts, not just theirs. Belarus Frees 25 Political Prisoners in Exchange for U.S. Sanctions Relief The deal is part of the Trump administration’s more transactional approach to a close Russian ally that Europe has tried to isolate. Belarus on Wednesday released 25 political prisoners after a visit from President Trump’s envoy, continuing a thaw in relations between the United States and the Eastern European nation’s autocratic leader, Aleksandr G. Lukashenko. The prisoner release was the latest in a long series that began last year when the Trump administration, unlike the European Union, shifted away from sanctions against Belarus — Russia’s neighbor and closest ally — to embrace negotiations. The United States had hoped to get 200 people released on Wednesday. Despite getting far fewer freed, the Trump administration appeared eager to push on with rapprochement, hoping that Mr. Lukashenko, a tough and cunning negotiator seasoned by years of dealing with the Kremlin, will release more later. The prisoner release followed talks in the Belarusian capital, Minsk, between Mr. Lukashenko and the U.S. special envoy for Belarus, John Coale, a lawyer and friend of Mr. Trump’s with little previous government experience. In a telephone interview, Mr. Coale said he was “almost positive” that a larger number of prisoners would be released “about a month from now.” Declaring his talks a success, he said, “We used what you would call Donald Trumpism — very friendly, but very direct — and we got a lot of things done.” ... https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/16/world/europe/belarus-political-prisoner-release-us-sanctions.html Trump has such a visceral hatred of Canada that he is willing to conduct business with a Russian stooge. Belarus is where Russia launched their invasion and they still launch drones from Belarus. Unreal. |
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Originally Posted By kpacman: Trump has such a visceral hatred of Canada that he is willing to conduct business with a Russian stooge. Belarus is where Russia launched their invasion and they still launch drones from Belarus. Unreal. every time Trump does something good -- like the security agreement with Greenland -- he then does something so retarded i can't comprehend it. |
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Originally Posted By SierraNV: AfD doesn't have the numbers to form a national govt. after Federal elections. Anyone claiming "surging" is weird. Like claiming the Dems are "surging" after a local NYC election. AfD is also led by a self-hating married lesbian with adopted kids who isn't even living in Germany. lol, how any morons relate that Kremlin puppet group to being "nationalist" or having any real "values" is insane. Originally Posted By SierraNV: Originally Posted By Tiberius: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By Longshore87:I will agree that Slovakia is an issue. If they just sit on their hands and don’t participate in the near future though it’s not like we are losing much. Long term if Ukraine falls it’s much more of an issue. It's not just Slovakia, and Hungary until Orban lost. Look at AfD surging in Germany. Their Federal elections are next year. Look at RN in France, where Le Pen recently said she'd flat-out end aid to Ukraine - their national election is next year, also. What is Putin's goal? A multipolar world. Rebuilding Imperial Russia is only one side of the coin. Tearing down western power is the other side. If you get Fico's view repeated in Europe's biggest powers, NATO is in terminal decline. That seems destabilizing. What infuriates me is that the political Right in Europe is correct on domestic issues, but simultaneously wrong on Russia. I don't even understand why. Anti-immigration? Great. Pro-Russia? Uhh... no. It’s pretty obvious, it’s just like here. The Left weaponized the state and Techbros against thier enemies (us), and were enthusiastic Putin-Puffers until Putin pissed in thier faces with the ‘14. Now, of course, due to that they hate Putin with a hysterical intensity…..a lot of folks hate the shitlibs so much they assume anyone they hate that much is thier friend. It’s how Trump got Elected, and ultimately re-Elected, and at the bottom of why they hate Ukraine even though it has a backstory that should make them total CHADs in thier eyes. It’s a compelling argument, one I have to work to resist because I know the truth….the Russians hate us and want to kill us. AfD doesn't have the numbers to form a national govt. after Federal elections. Anyone claiming "surging" is weird. Like claiming the Dems are "surging" after a local NYC election. AfD is also led by a self-hating married lesbian with adopted kids who isn't even living in Germany. lol, how any morons relate that Kremlin puppet group to being "nationalist" or having any real "values" is insane. They are now the largest Party in two different states, the Establishment parties are on borrowed time….eventually they will begin getting majorities, or some other party will take a coalition deal. Thier policy of excluding 40% percent from governance actually helps AfD in the long run as it makes it manifestly clear the Establishment isn’t listening, which erodes their credibility further. |
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Originally Posted By SierraNV: The late August Pentagon "leak" admitted the US Govt is paying online influencers to work at the Pentagon (and parrot propaganda talking points). Our tax dollars are funding Kremlin talking point scripts getting coordinated out of the Pentagon. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/08/30/pentagon-secretly-installs-military-influencers-civilian-roles/ Originally Posted By SierraNV: Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: It's possible Zelensky broke some agreement but my bet is that Russia broke it first. Anyway, Trump's open, public response is childish. The late August Pentagon "leak" admitted the US Govt is paying online influencers to work at the Pentagon (and parrot propaganda talking points). Our tax dollars are funding Kremlin talking point scripts getting coordinated out of the Pentagon. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/08/30/pentagon-secretly-installs-military-influencers-civilian-roles/ You say that like Biden’s DOD wasn’t doing the same thing the other way. |