Posted: 8/14/2004 10:23:58 PM EDT
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I just got done watching this on the History Channel and was wondering what the great ARFCOM'ers have to say about this. I am a Christian and find it intresting, but have mixed feelings about it. Are we just "looking" too deep for answers? ETH: What are your comments? I did a quick google search and found this site. This will blow your mind! Basicaly it says what we have said for years..... the UN is the great beast!  It is VERY detailed, and an intresting read. www.bibledecoded.com/ Edited to add another "Code" website exodus2006.com/3code.htm |
| Some guy a few years back used the same methodology on "war and peace" - even with more letters to deal with (remember, Hebrew doesn't even have vowels), he was able to find the same kind of patterns. The Bible Code is complete Bullshit. If you take any page of words, and arrange it in enough ways, you will find all sorts of new words and phrases. |
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I think that Is REAL....I have studied a quite a bit about it in the past and some of the things that are found are mind blowing to say the least. There are some programs that you can download and run through the Torah to see for yourself. I know that there are some things that are taken out of context and people put their own meaning into it. This is not meant to be used as a fortune guide but as a look into something deeper than just written text. Some of the searchs that are well known among Code belivers have odds in the millions and trillions of being in the same area of the Torah while at the same time being in direct context of the written text. The Torah, the first 5 books of the Bible written by moses and was supposed to be delivered by G-D on Mt. Sinia. This same text is believed to be the living word of God...The Logos. There are also several scriptures in the Old and New Testament's that give hints of a possibile embedded code in the Bible....some in Daniel and some in the Revelation. There are a few good reads on the subject ..one that I have read is "The Bible Code" by Michael Dresden who is an investigative reporter and Atheist. It gives a neutral view of what has been discovered in the Text of the Torah. I am unsure how long there has been tale of a code in the Bible but its is nothing new. |
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I do not believe in this, or Nostra-what's-his-face and it really ticks me off when people say "Hitler was foretold, and so was this that or the other" I've even heard these jerks have the nerve to say 9/11 was in there. Why can't they figure these things out before hand? What the heck good are they if you can only find similarities in hindsight? That's not prophesy. Hell, I can sit down and wig out on opium or whatever these jerks are doing and write a bunch of bs, and I guarantee over the course of a few hundred years some of my bs will come "true" to. And if there is true prophesy in there, and some jerk knew about hitler or 9/11, where were they to stop it? Where were they on 9/10 to take over the airport and prevent the planes from taking off or to chain the doors of the twin towers and not let anyone in? 
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yep, kinda like looking at the clouds. If you stare at them long enough you can see anything. |
Agreed If the bible is supposed to be a guide for all mankind, why such metaphor and ambiguity. Folks that are downtrodden and oppressed don't have time to figure out codes and puzzles. Besides, any text that has been passed on through the ages has been altered by each and every author. A changed word on page ten really magnifies the thought by page one-hundred. You either believe or you don't. Codes are bs. |
| If the Bible was was direct message from God then yes. But the Bible has been through several translations. Not to mention it was edited into its current from by people in charge in the past such as the Vatican and certain Kings. The messages are what they want us to hear. |
The Bible Code is all about the Torah in the original Hebrew. I agree it's BS, but your argument smacks of dismissal without even finding out what you are dismissing. |
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I was actually watching a little bit of the same show last night, and as I was talking about my dad about applying matrices (sp?) to any large text, they showed something about applying the same formula to Moby Dick and how it revealed some interesting things. They then later tried to disclaim the findings..... I was not convinced |
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I'm not sure. But I do know this story: 2 Agnostic Mathmaticians at MIT were experimenting with The Bible Code, and found a message that Yitzak Rabin (sp??) was going to be assassinated. They went to Isreal, and actually were able to meet with him and inform him of what they found. Mr. Rabin thanked them and dismissed it. He was shot to death by an assassin with in a year. I'm not even sure that the story is true, but it seems on par with the other things that I have heard about the bible code. |
That's some funny shit! |
Is it possible? I guess. Is it probable? Not really. One gets the feeling that if the same sort of matrix was applied to Moby Dick or War and Peace that some of the same stuff would result. Who knows. Does it increase my faith> Not in the slightest. My faith is based on who God is, not what someone is able to "prove" about various topics. I know that I know that I know that I know that He is, and He is a rewarder of those that dilligently seek Him. Thus I require nothing more than the Holy Spirit and the Word He breathed to believe unto salvation. |
No. This is the most common criticism of the Bible I hear, and yet it has the least validity of any claim out there. Did you know that archaeology can recreate 99% of what is now the new testament from the correspondence of believers in the century immediately after Christ? This pre-dates the cannon of scripture. Did you know the available writings of legitimate church fathers like Polycarp and Clement of Rome and Clement of Alexandria quote and refer specifically to 99% of what is now the New Testament? Clement of Alexandria alone used over 2400 quotes in his writings that referred to all but 2 books of the New Testament as it is with us today. The simple fact is that we have NUMEROUS ways of referring to the manuscripts that PRE-DATE the cannon of scripture, and through them we can judge whether or not our current translations agree with the original Greek and Hebrew writings. The KJV, NKJV, NIV and Amplifiied Bible have proven to be very accurate. What we read in the Bible today is the same Gospel that was delivered by the Apostles thousands of years ago. If what we have today is false then it is false because the Apostles lied about everything. Given that they faced crucifixion, burning at the stake, being eaten by lions, and various other tortures, the validity of their faith seems to be without question in their own minds. The truth is clear enough to anyone with the slightest desire to find it. But so many people resent the idea of being accountable to the Bible that it does not suprise me that they perform every effort to dismiss it. The thought is that somehow an Almighty God is incapable of making sure His Word was truly delivered as a witness to people. If He can create the universe and uphold the fabric of existence, why then can't He ensure His Word is delivered properly? If He controls your next heartbeat, how is He unable to tell the truth about Himself? Would Almighty God leave us blind to the truth, not leaving a true witness, and then demand of us worship and obedience? So little faith, so little reverence. All born out of a desire to have one's own way rather than to follow His. |