Posted: 7/21/2004 5:59:52 AM EDT
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Does this statement bother anyone else? If it is given, is it not a privilege....???? I keep hearing the statement they've won the right...ect.. or given the right... It just bothers me, and I wondered if anyone else has the same hang up.....? |
and thats what I'm saying...if it is given it is NOT a right....it's a privilege... the statement bothers me. we see it every day in every article talking about what rights the .gov are giving us today..... |
Rights 'given' are civil rights. These are the product of a society which is easily able to provide this, therefore the common concept is that they should be provided. Rights you are born with are natural rights. Several of these rights are listed in the Bill of Rights, and some aren't. |
So, let's say that tomorrow the .gov eliminated all Civil Rights. Would they then have not just the legal, but the moral right to subjugate those to whom those rights originally applied? I think not. The point is, rights are rights. Whether the .gov, or anybody else acknowledges them, or abides by them, is a different matter. I too see a distressing trend in the way rights and the Constitution are being viewed. The Constitution was originally designed as a way to control government. It's now being used as a way to control the people - particularly in direct opposition to the 9th and 10th amandments. Our Bill of Rights is not an all-inclusive dictum of granted privileges, but that's the way it's being viewed. I heard a statement made by a politician who said, in reference to a relatively benign situation, "The constitution doesn't give you that right." Well, the constitution doesn't give rights, it tells the government what it can and can't do (at least that's what it's supposed to do). In regard to the 10th, the federal government does pretty much whatever it wants, far beyond its scope as outlined in the Constitution - a clear violation. |
My apologies for my incorrect definition above, but the central point still stands: Civil Rights will disappear if orderly society collapses, and certainly can be infringed upon in a civil emergency. Definitions of CIVIL RIGHTS on the Web: The rights that go with citizenship, that one acquires simply by being a citizen. Not all of these are inalienable rights, however - see rights. For example, a citizen may lose the right to vote if convicted of certain crimes. onlineethics.org/glossary.html The rights of citizens to liberty and equality (for example, freedom to access information or to vote). gbgm-umc.org/umw/education/glossary.html *. The rights that go with citizenship, that one acquires simply by being a citizen. Not all of these are inalienable rights, however--see rights. For example, a citizen may lose the right to vote if convicted of certain crimes. www.unmc.edu/ethics/words.html The rights of a citizen of the United States that deal with the right to due process, informed consent, appeal, petition for change, equal protection under the law, adult patterns of behavior, education, equal opportunity, and opportunities in a least restrictive setting. www.spannj.org/BasicRights/appendix_i.htm the rights of citizens to political and social freedom and equality. Disabled people are denied many rights that non-disabled people take for granted. www.communicationsforum.co.uk/mediacenter/glossary.asp The right of every citizen to be treated equally under the law and to have equality of opportunity. The rights are granted by the Constitution, especially by amendments to the Consititution. (See CONSTITUTIONAL GUARANTEES) members.tripod.com/~tutor_me/book/glossary.htm 1. The nonpolitical rights of all citizens, especially those rights relating to personal liberty. Civil rights differ from civil liberties in that civil rights are positive in nature, and civil liberties; that is, civil liberties are immunities from governmental interference or limitations on governmental action (as in the First Amendment) that have the effect of reserving rights to individuals. www.data-quik.com/definitions/c.htm – protections and privileges given to all U.S. citizens by the Constitution and Bill of rights www.whitehall.k12.mi.us/curriculum/socialstudies/glossaryofterms.htm Embody the right to equal treatment under the law wps.ablongman.com/long_fiorina_nad_3/0,6858,490238-,00.html Rights bestowed by governments on their citizens. highered.mcgraw-hill.com/sites/0072488344/student_view0/chapter18/chapter_glossary.html A legal requirement that all government classifications must be reasonable. www.rjonescourses.net/Pol211GlossaryTemp.htm – The rights guaranteed to citizens by the Constitution. www.cobbk12.org/~thinklinks/Grade5/Conflict1/glossary.htm protections and privileges given to all U.S. citizens by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights infoweb.newsbank.com/correlationbank/StateCorrelations/SC/social/scsocgl.htm Whereas the rights of African-Americans should have been secured with the Thirteenth and Fourteenth Constitutional Amendments (1865-1868), it was actually a full century before a complete Civil Rights Act (1965) entered the books. It guaranteed voting rights, which had been incomplete in the face of local registration requirements, and prohibited various sorts of discrimination and segregation. This act had implications not only for blacks, but for all minorities; it spoke against gender-based discrimination also. pbsvideodb.pbs.org/resources/civilwar/primary/glossry.html right or rights belonging to a person by reason of citizenship including especially the fundamental freedoms and privileges guaranteed by the 13th and 14th amendments and subsequent acts of Congress including the right to legal and social and economic equality www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webw |
| And where can we trace this problem back to? The public schools, that's where. Kids are being taught that the Constitution grants Rights to them, The Constitution gives them the Right to free speech in the 1st Amend. ect. That's just hogwash. The Constitution doesn't grant any Rights, it stops the government from Taking those God given Rights away. |
Delete this thread before the liberals read it and re-write the constitution to read "The privelege to bear arms..." and "The privelege of free speech..." |