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5/15/2004 10:24:44 AM EDT

 Awesome video!      Dail-up warning! 5mb

www.handymodels.co.uk/downloads/alan_vegasfunflydemo_2004.wmv

I've been into rc for many years and have failed at my attemps at RC helicopter flight. this guy is goooood !
5/15/2004 10:33:28 AM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:

www.handymodels.co.uk/downloads/alan_vegasfunflydemo_2004.wmv


5/15/2004 10:36:07 AM EDT
[#2]
HOLY SHIT!

I dare any real-life heli pilot to do anything in that video

Holy cow! Just...wow! Man, that guy must have logged some serious stick time on those things..
5/15/2004 11:02:14 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
HOLY SHIT!



ditto that!

Jamie
5/15/2004 11:19:50 AM EDT
[#4]
nice....but you gotta wonder if he "intended" that, or he fucked up from the start..
5/15/2004 11:20:51 AM EDT
[#5]
Wow! Looks like a marionette, or however you spell one of those puppets with a bunch of strings.
5/15/2004 11:32:43 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
nice....but you gotta wonder if he "intended" that, or he fucked up from the start..



If he 'fucked up' from the start, then he has to be one of the greatest people ever to deal with a 'fuck up'.

Simply amazing skills.
5/15/2004 11:35:22 AM EDT
[#7]
DAMN!
5/15/2004 11:43:47 AM EDT
[#8]
What model "weed wacker",Oops I mean helicopter is that?  I've never seen them flown quite like that before!!

Watching it fly upside down made me think of being able to cut the grass and have fun at the same time!
5/15/2004 11:57:35 AM EDT
[#9]
that little copter simply defies the laws of physics.....Awesome "flying" skills from that man on the stick. That was pretty damn cool
5/15/2004 12:05:23 PM EDT
[#10]
That's a remote controlled dragonfly!!!

Amazing.
5/15/2004 12:31:13 PM EDT
[#11]
I thought my neighbor was good. Damn, This guy kicks ass on the sticks!

If it was not for the exaust from the copter, the video looks like it is running backwards.

Way cool.
5/15/2004 1:42:59 PM EDT
[#12]
All I have to say, is....



DAMN!
5/15/2004 2:01:14 PM EDT
[#13]
Wow, I didn't know that a helicopter could do most of that.  

VERY impressive.
5/15/2004 3:44:00 PM EDT
[#14]
Very Cool!

That guy must practice for hours on end.

The Copter' is a Raptor 90 (it even says so on the video). Not cheap by any stretch of the imagination at around $600 for the kit without blades, plus your radio, etc. at least a $1000 set up.
5/15/2004 3:53:11 PM EDT
[#15]
Good flying.
5/15/2004 4:06:12 PM EDT
[#16]
That's unbelievable!  In the early '80s I was looking into the R/C helicopter, until I found out how expensive they were, and how hard to fly they were.  I have met many people who gave it up because they crashed alot too!  I stuck to cars and boats.
5/15/2004 4:25:43 PM EDT
[#17]
From take-off until he ran out of gas and autorotated, I don't believe there were 3 consecutive frames showing that helo flying in a normal orientation!
5/15/2004 4:51:36 PM EDT
[#18]
Oh, and that inverted hover where he touches the ground had my on the edge of my seat...i was just waiting for a rotor blade to clip the ground...but it didn't come.  

Great video.  
5/15/2004 4:55:45 PM EDT
[#19]
I used to fly but never got this good.  It takes many hours on the sim to get familiar with the different orientation changes and it becomes instinctive.  This particular heli seems to use a .90 cu in motor with tremendous power, the rotor disk is about 6 ft in diameter.
I got to rolls, loops, a few acrobatic maneuvers, some inverted flying and a few flips, and autorotations.  

The backwards flying is accomplished with the tail kept in place with a heading lock gyro, otherwise it would tend to flip around with the weather vane effect.  This is a tremendously skilled pilot, probably sponsored. Very few attain this level of proficiency.
5/15/2004 5:38:57 PM EDT
[#20]
More RC Helicopters

-Troy
5/15/2004 6:01:48 PM EDT
[#21]
I have been flying for several years now, and when I first started I was told that it was a lot like trying to balance a marble on a dinner plate during a windstorm......well that was kinda true, I crashed about 4 helo's during my first attempts and lost a lot of cash that could have went into nice airplanes, and the sad part is I just went back to airplanes anyway...
5/15/2004 6:20:45 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
From take-off until he ran out of gas and autorotated, I don't believe there were 3 consecutive frames showing that helo flying in a normal orientation!



You notice that too....

I make a living flying in a Helo, that was fucking awesome!
5/15/2004 6:22:00 PM EDT
[#23]

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that little copter simply defies the laws of physics.....Awesome "flying" skills from that man on the stick. That was pretty damn cool



why does it "defy the laws of physics?"
5/15/2004 8:37:21 PM EDT
[#24]
id love to  know how many he crashed practicing to fly like that.
5/15/2004 8:45:20 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:
that little copter simply defies the laws of physics.....Awesome "flying" skills from that man on the stick. That was pretty damn cool



why does it "defy the laws of physics?"




Its a figure of speech. Sorry for the problem. And coming from a fixed wing pilot, that shit aint natural.
5/15/2004 9:02:49 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
that little copter simply defies the laws of physics.....Awesome "flying" skills from that man on the stick. That was pretty damn cool



why does it "defy the laws of physics?"




Its a figure of speech. Sorry for the problem. And coming from a fixed wing pilot, that shit aint natural.



Heh...

WRT Helicopters...

Helicopters are very strange machines...

They do not actually fly, per se...

They are simply so butt ugly the ground REPELS them...

(old fixed-wing pilot joke about helos)...
5/15/2004 9:13:00 PM EDT
[#27]
HOLY HELL!

That was AWESOME !!!
5/15/2004 9:30:21 PM EDT
[#28]
Its not defying the laws of physics, Its POWER TO WEIGHT ratio.  The copter weights close to nothing and the .90 cubic engine probably has a tuned pipe and is otherwise maxed out.  I was waiting for the engine failure.  Not the case!  A engine cut out inverted and that Raptor would have been toast.
5/15/2004 9:48:13 PM EDT
[#29]
Not unless he was almost touching the ground, and even then with the head speed he's running I'd bet on a recovery.

I've got a couple curtis youngblood videos and he's got several gas/engine outs while inverted and he just flips over and lands.  He does an inverted autorotation that has to be seen to be believed.  Actually I've seen it lots and I still sort of suspect video trickery....


Fun toys, lots of money.
5/15/2004 10:04:18 PM EDT
[#30]
Airplanes fly.

Helos Beat the Air Into Submission.

All laws of physics are obeyed, so long as there isn't a motor/transmission/foil failure.

I will stick with my fixed wing combat planes, the loop on a dime and roll like a drill with unlimited vertical.   What more could you want???
5/15/2004 10:09:46 PM EDT
[#31]
his kung fu is strong.
5/16/2004 12:44:13 AM EDT
[#32]



Shit like that could explain many of the UFO sightings posted recently.

5/16/2004 1:02:58 AM EDT
[#33]
Not to detract from the skills needed to fly R/C helos, it's actually easier than you may think using todays sophisticated special mixing function computer radios .
5/16/2004 1:14:16 AM EDT
[#34]
Thats amazing...
5/16/2004 1:26:13 AM EDT
[#35]
it not the heliopter that bends, it's world around it
5/16/2004 2:08:51 AM EDT
[#36]

Looks like a Little Bird after an RPG hit to the tail rotor.

5/16/2004 3:35:09 AM EDT
[#37]
I'm a fan.  How much does a decent set up run?
5/16/2004 8:46:12 AM EDT
[#38]
For a basic setup consisting of a small heli, engine, gyro, radio system, simulator and support equipment, budget a minimum of U$ 1000.
For a professional FAI competition setup look at U$ 5000 or so.

Here are a few links to good RC Heli shops:

www.ronlund.com

www.heliproz.com

The Heli you saw in the first video is a Ace/ThunderTiger Raptor 90.  Interestingly, Alan flys it just about stock from the factory with minimal modifications.  The R90 is the lowest price 60/90 size helicopter available.
www.acehobby.com/acehobby/products/helicopter/raptor60/index.html

Engine is either a OS91SXHWC-PC or a YS91STH3
www.ronlund.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=heli&Product_Code=OSMG1981
www.ronlund.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=heli&Product_Code=YS91

Radio set is either a Futaba 9Z, JR10x or Airtronics Stylus.
www.ronlund.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=heli&Product_Code=FUT9ZXMTR
www.ronlund.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=heli&Product_Code=JRP10X

Gyro is a Futaba 601
www.ronlund.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=heli&Product_Code=FUTG601S


I own two helis.  A Raptor 90:


and a Raptor 50 in a Long Ranger Fuselage.


Oh, expect about U$200 in repairs per crash plus U$100 for the carbon fibre mainrotor blades.
For more info on RC Helis go to:

www.runryder.com

Have Fun

Fritz

5/16/2004 8:50:48 AM EDT
[#39]
I have dial up
5/16/2004 8:51:43 AM EDT
[#40]
can some one take some screen shots
5/16/2004 9:02:13 AM EDT
[#41]
Here are some smaller videos ( each link is broken down into smaller segments on the second page)

www.augustoheli.com/videostuff/videoarchive/default.asp

Fritz
5/16/2004 9:29:37 AM EDT
[#42]
Fritz are the new electric helos worth a crap?  I was going to buy one to train on and then move up to a real engined one.
5/16/2004 9:40:02 AM EDT
[#43]

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are the new electric helos worth a crap?    



No.
5/16/2004 9:52:24 AM EDT
[#44]


There are several categories of electric Helis.

You have the small micro ones for indoor or garden flight:
mscomposit-usa.com/

The medium sized ones:
www.helihobby.com/html/logo_helicopter_products.html

And the performance machines:
www.miniatureaircraftusa.com/store/product_kits/helicopter_kits/IonX/IonX.asp
This one has the same power as a 90 sized glow powered heli.  Price is still up there though: U$1500 for the heli with brushless motor, U$700 for the batteries.  This does not include radio, gyro and battery charger.

With the new Lithium-Polymer batteries the electric stuff is finally coming up to speed.  Instead of flying for 5 minutes with Nicads, with LiPos you can expect 15+ minutes easy.  The LiPos are still new and command a premium price but should get cheaper over the next year.
For now, it is still recommended that you start with a glow powered, small or medium sized heli.  The Raptor 50 is very popular and cheap same with the Sceado 50.
www6.mailordercentral.com/heliproz/prodinfo.asp?number=403916PROSKU&variation=&aitem=8&mitem=102
www6.mailordercentral.com/heliproz/prodinfo.asp?number=101450PRO&variation=&aitem=3&mitem=102

Fritz

5/16/2004 10:53:46 AM EDT
[#45]

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and a Raptor 50 in a Long Ranger Fuselage.
fritzthecat.250free.com/images/bell206l/longranger-a.jpg




Just a question:

How and why did you end up with an RC copy of a local milwaukee TV station's helicopter????
5/16/2004 12:23:26 PM EDT
[#46]
There are two fuselages that fit easily on a Raptor 50.  The Augusta 109 and the Long Ranger.  I picked the Long Ranger.  Then I googled on Long Ranger News Heli pictures.  A long list came up.  I picked one that had a nice set of pictures available, wasn't already modeled by another pilot and looked good.  The Milwaukee Ch4 News chopper was it.


Dani, the pilot reeeeeally likes Laura, the Reporter.




Fritz