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4/10/2004 12:28:13 PM EDT
ID, I don't need no stinking ID.


www.permanenttourist.com/4paths/fly-without-id.html


How To Fly Without ID


It's Easy If You Know How!
In the last two years, everyone flying on a commercial airline has stepped up to an airline's ticket counter and heard the agent recite a familiar litany. The monologue goes, "has your bag been unattended; have you accepted gifts from a stranger; can I see your identification please?" The traveler docilely murmurs answers, and produces a driver's license or some equivalent.

As a die-hard Constitutionalist, I believe that we still have an absolute, unfettered, God-given right to travel from point A to point B without permission from the state -- in the air, as well as on land. This Nazi procedure of "your papers, please" has never been appropriate for our country. I have had occasion to travel a good deal in the last several months, and on those trips I decided to research and test this issue about the necessity for producing identification. I have talked with agents, and their supervisors, of several major airlines in cities across America, and have gradually pieced together a rather complete picture of the real legal situation regarding our right to travel.

Next, I tested this finding with several airlines. When asked for identification, I produced only my Sam's Club card, or my travel agent's ID card, or a Costco card. These are all picture ID's, but they are privately issued, and do not even have a signature on them. The airline agents just freaked out, and demanded to see some state-issued ID. They routinely told me that "it was federal law!" The government absolutely required me to cough up an "official" ID card, without which the agent couldn't even THINK of letting me on the plane.

I told the agents that I could not find any federal regulation mandating that type of identification, and then asked them to cure my ignorance and please cite the regulation. Now, at this point, individual airline agents have reacted differently. Some called in their supervisor. Alaska Air employees were the most gracious; Northwest agents were the worst -- they were rude, belligerent and hostile brats. But they all folded, every time. A particularly nasty Northwest employee marched me all the way back to the electronic detection equipment, made me pass through it a second time, and had the guard thoroughly search my carry-on bag. The same airline agent-from-hell actually made rude and demeaning remarks to me as we trudged back to the counter -- and then she let me on the plane.

Alaska Air was much more reasonable -- the agent just issued my seat pass, and commented that some people seem tenaciously to hold the thought that they have the right to travel without producing government ID -- to which I responded, "yes, amazing, isn't it -- and I'm one of them." In Seattle, an agent said AS HE HANDED ME MY TICKET, "you know, if you don't show me any government-issued ID, I can't let you board the plane." I replied, Yes, I understand. But I didn't, and you are. With a smile, he just said, "have a nice trip." So I have flown several times using only my meager privately issued picture ID cards.

Every time I used this strategy, I noticed that the agent put an orange sticker on my checked bags, and also on my seat pass on the ticket. Several agents divulged that this is the policy they are supposed to follow when a person does not show government ID. The bags simply wait in the baggage room until the person presents the matching seat pass as he/she actually boards the plane; then the bags go on board.

On my next trip, I decided to push the envelope even further. When the Alaska Air agent made the usual perfunctory request for identification, I put on my best face, smiled sweetly, and said, "Gee, I'm so sorry, but I just don't have any ID I could show you." To my speechless astonishment, the agent just said, "no problem -- just fill out this simple form, and present it to the counter at the airplane gate." I watched as the familiar orange sticker again went on my bag. I repeated the same scenario with Horizon Air on another trip. I have now flown twice without producing any identification whatsoever.

Northwest was actually instrumental in advancing my education about this issue. I was so aggravated by the insolent and hostile treatment that their employee gave me, (hopefully former employee, after the blistering letter I sent to the company president), that I demanded to see a supervisor on the spot. I then demanded that he produce the relevant federal regulations RIGHT NOW, or face personal liability for authorizing an unreasonable search and seizure, dereliction of duty, fraud, conspiracy, civil rights deprivation and any other legal buzz words I could think of at that moment which would justify a lawsuit against him personally, as well as his employer. Like everyone else, he couldn't show me any statute or regulations. He even admitted that there are none.

However, he did produce a copy of Security Directive 96-05, which the Federal Aviation Agency issued to all airlines in August of 1996. Its wording is very instructive; it reads as follows:

1. IDENTIFY THE PASSENGER -

A. ALL PASSENGERS WHO APPEAR TO BE 18 YEARS OF AGE WILL PRESENT A GOVERNMENT ISSUED PICTURE ID, OR TWO OTHER FORMS OF ID, AT LEAST ONE OF WHICH MUST BE ISSUED BY A GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY.

B. THE AGENT MUST RECONCILE THE NAME ON THE ID AND THE NAME ON THE TICKET -- EXCEPT AS NOTED BELOW.

C. IF THE PASSENGER CANNOT PRODUCE IDENTIFICATION, OR IT CANNOT BE RECONCILED TO MATCH THE TICKET, THE PASSENGER BECOMES A "SELECTEE." CLEAR ALL OF THEIR LUGGAGE AS NOTED IN SECTION 6, BELOW.

6. CLEAR SELECTEE'S CHECKED AND CARRY-ON LUGGAGE, AND SUSPICIOUS ARTICLES DISCOVERED BY THE QUESTIONS ASKED;

A. IF THE SELECTEE IS ON A FLIGHT WITHIN THE 48 CONTINENTAL US STATES, OR TO MEXICO, OR TO CANADA, ITEMS CAN BE CLEARED BY EITHER OF THE FOLLOWING METHODS:

1. EMPTY THE LUGGAGE OR ITEM AND PHYSICALLY SEARCH ITS CONTENTS BY A QUALIFIED SCREENER, OR;

2. BAG-MATCH -- ENSURE THE BAG IS NOT TRANSPORTED ON THE AIRCRAFT IF THE PASSENGER DOES NOT BOARD.

B. IF THE SELECTEE IS ON AN INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT -- CHECKED LUGGAGE, CARRY-ON LUGGAGE, AND SUSPECT ITEMS CAN BE CLEARED ONLY BY THE FOLLOWING METHOD; EMPTY THE LUGGAGE OR ITEM AND PHYSICALLY SEARCH ITS CONTENTS BY QUALIFIED SCREENERS.

This document apparently goes on for ten more pages;
4/10/2004 12:33:46 PM EDT
[#1]
In a way, not funny.  I'll bet money that not a single Muslim, wearing their "traditional" garb (you know - the long pajama-looking things) has ever been searched at an airport.

That would be profiling!!!!!!

[rolleyes]

CMOS
4/10/2004 12:34:58 PM EDT
[#2]
Thats pretty good.

However, I still like showing up to the airport, armed, get the keys out of the locker after I talked for a few with the person behind the desk, trapes out to the hanger, check all instruments, plot the course on the garmin, call ground and begin taxing out.

Gawd I love being able to pilot myself
[;D]
4/10/2004 1:00:09 PM EDT
[#3]
Another handy trick if you don't have ID documents (if you're Canadian) is to get deeply involved with the most dangerous terrorist organization in the world.

The Canadian government will send you replacement passports immediately, so you can return to the Great White North

[url]http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/04/09/canada/khadr_20040409[/url]

So civilized, those Canadians.
4/10/2004 1:11:59 PM EDT
[#4]
I have my full name, blood type,religion and SSN tattoed on my right upper shoulder blade. How much more ID do you need?
4/10/2004 2:03:58 PM EDT
[#5]
dpmmn - do you have a picture of your face tattood on your armm too?




[:D]              
4/10/2004 2:13:40 PM EDT
[#6]
...Northwest agents were the worst -- they were rude, belligerent and hostile brats.
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And that's why they are called Northworst.  They are always shitty no matter what.  It must be a terrible company to work for.  It's no wonder that they can't fill their planes except in the cities that they own, notably Minneapolis/St. Paul.  Unfortunately they have about an 80% market share.  They signed an agreement, apparently legal BTW, whereby Southwest Airlines, the low price leader, has agreed to stay out of MSP for many years.  Where are our antitrust officials?
4/10/2004 2:19:42 PM EDT
[#7]
Those "orange sticker" people are identified to the air marshalls and are killed upon the slightest indication of trouble.


[;)]

I made the mistake of going into Canada in November of 2001 without my passport - thank goodness I had my military ID card and was travelling under orders. My civilian business partner wasn't and got the strip search going into Canada but not returning from [rolleyes]
4/11/2004 4:33:48 PM EDT
[#8]
Hey cyanide, have you thought about passing this kewl article along to al-Qaeda.  They've got a rebel streak like the author does too.  I'm sure they could put this info to good use.
4/11/2004 4:53:05 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
I have my full name, blood type,religion and SSN tattoed on my right upper shoulder blade. How much more ID do you need?
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But your tattooist-dude wasn't an official gov't tattooist.  ;)
4/11/2004 5:35:41 PM EDT
[#10]
"Did you pack your bags today"?

"No, Allah packed my bags, can I go now"?
4/13/2004 2:11:44 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Hey cyanide, have you thought about passing this kewl article along to al-Qaeda.  They've got a rebel streak like the author does too.  I'm sure they could put this info to good use.
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If the guy even looks like he had some middle eastern food for dinner  -------------
strip search him and check his luggage twice.

It is called profiling, and it works, just ain't PC.