Posted: 3/23/2004 8:58:03 AM EDT
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I believe the Peltor and the Dillon Electronic Muffs attenuate the sound of gunshots differently. Something about one cutting the sound completely and the other just reducing the sound as to allow conversation to be heard better during gunfire. There also may be another brand I'm not familiar with... Do any of you have experience with both types so as to have an opinion on the pros and cons of each? Any other opinions welcome. Thanks. Pro-Ears: www.pro-ears.com/ Peltor Tac-6: www.aearo.com/pdf/comm/Tactical6-S.pdf Peltor ComTac: www.aearo.com/pdf/comm/com_tac.pdf Dillon: dillonprecision.com/template/p.cfm?maj=7&min=0&dyn=1& Wolf Ears: www.derry.gentexcorp.com/1030a.html |
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I have the [b]Peltor Com Tacs[/b], They work real well, but when Shooting Rifles I still use the foam plugs under them. Before I picked up the Com Tacs I used a set of [b]David Clarks[/b], These were just a set of muffs but the the ear cups are too big for rifle shooting |
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I use ProEars as well as they compress the sound levels rather than turning on and off. I don't shoot indoors but they work fine outdoors for both big bore pistol and rifles IMHO. When shooting around other shooters I'll double up and wear EAR plugs inside as the muzzle blast from shooters on the sides is many times louder than your own muzzle blast. The battery life is nice at like 300 hours - a year's worth of shooting give or take. With the gain up I can hear better than I can naturally. |
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Quoted: I believe the Peltor and the Dillon Electronic Muffs attenuate the sound of gunshots differently. I use Wolf Ears normally, but the Comtacs are great (I currently have no need to plug anything into mine). BOTH compress sound rather than cutting the sound off. Standard Peltors (Tac6 & Tac7) cut sound off. I did read something to the effect that while Dillon muffs are just Peltors with Dillon color and logo on them, at least one of Dillons models used inferior electronics and did not cut off as quickly as the Peltor counterpart. I don't know if that's true or still true. I really like Dillon products so I had a hard time reading that. |
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Ok. The Peltor ComTac leads the way so far. I notice that it has two microphones. One on each side, positioned to the front. Having never used a set of electronic muffs, I am wondering if you can hear sounds from the rear. How about being able to determine whether the BG is to your left rear or right rear? |
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Quoted: Quoted: A poll may be a good indictor of what is the BEST muff on the market. Sorry but there is something just too funny about asking my poll to determine the best muff!![lol] Believe me, there's a reason I didn't put "muff" in the thread title. Yeah, it crossed my mind. |
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Manufacturer links added to initial post. Here's some commentary about the ComTacs: [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=90&t=189345[/url] [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=19&t=162118[/url] In this second link, note the following quote about the Peltors (ComTacs, etc.) from someone who has used the ComTacs and others: "I don't like the cut off system, I prefer an attuenated sound suppression. What this means is if you are having a conversation when the cutoff circuit kicks in, you can't hear ANYTHING. In an attunated system, the loud noise would be reduced and allow you to hear other sounds. ProEars have better electronics in this respect." |
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Quoted: Quoted: I have the Dillon HP1's but rarely use them anymore. The reason why is because I usually shoot at MG shoots where it is extremely loud. I double up with plugs and muffs. I'd like to keep my hearing. [:)] How's the combination of plugs and HP1s? Not too bad. The NPR of the HP1's are around 21 I believe. That is pretty low and having the plugs help. You can crank up the volume and still hear someone when they talk and you are pretty well protected. Sometimes I just use the best Peltor ultimate 10 with plugs. Like I said, I like my hearing. |
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If you're a real cheap ass, then you can also take a look at these: [url]http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=46798[/url] Box claims that they have an NRR of 27 dB. I usually double up on hearing protection and these have worked pretty for me in an indoor range. |
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I have a the Peltor Tac-6's, and I love 'em. I'm a match director for a pistol match, so it's really helpful for me to be able to hear what's going on on the range, but having the muzzle blast from those high-caliber muzzle-braked pistols chopped off. Highly recommend 'em. |
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Quoted: Ok. The Peltor ComTac leads the way so far. I notice that it has two microphones. One on each side, positioned to the front. Having never used a set of electronic muffs, I am wondering if you can hear sounds from the rear. How about being able to determine whether the BG is to your left rear or right rear? This part is kind of strange. First of all, two mikes are better than one so you have stereo sound and can tell left from right. Most binaural mikes point forward or straight out to the side, and the better models allow one to adjust each one's amplification independantly. A single control is quicker, but limits your senses. Most all (don't know any that don't) can actually amplify ambient sounds so you can have superior hearing. Sounds from behind will sound more or less quiet than those from the front depending on the way the mikes are angled, but in general you can't really tell just by hearing - that would take a front and back mike. When hunting, orientation can be a little odd and may throw one off a little as false directional sense creeps in. I find it spooky that someone many benches down can have a cell phone ring and it sounds like it's right next to me. I guess this shows certain frequency ranges are more amplified than others, and some none at all. This is another reason why natural hearing is superior in the woods as the (non-flat) frequency response can alter what you hear. It's kind of like hearing aids that are tuned more for the frequency range of speech. Speaking of hearing aids, has anyone tried the Walker Game Ears (or whatever those units are that are individual ear devices, custom fit, that look like hearing aids? How good are they are noise reduction/protection? |