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8/24/2018 8:23:56 PM EDT
Went to the range today just to function test my two new Minis and saw on the 50 yard range that someone posted two paper plates. So I taped over the holes and shot both from the bench.



This one is the 1989 made Mini-14 GB.



This one is the new 2018 production Ranch Rifle.



Here they both are from a free standing position just fooling around and doing some rapid fire.



I only brought 60 rounds.
8/24/2018 8:25:12 PM EDT
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You only took 60 rounds!?
8/24/2018 8:28:25 PM EDT
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Quick trip between getting off from work and getting home to make dinner and work out. Just a function test for both guns.

I'll put them through the paces soon enough.
8/24/2018 8:28:50 PM EDT
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Turkey season has passed, you know.
8/24/2018 8:29:41 PM EDT
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I know.
8/24/2018 8:33:05 PM EDT
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60rds?

Op did the A team a disservice today

That side folder looks great btw. Nice looking rifles
8/24/2018 8:57:26 PM EDT
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I did do them a disservice today. That side folder does rock.
8/24/2018 9:10:21 PM EDT
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So those new barrels make no difference at all.
8/24/2018 9:12:26 PM EDT
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Damn, I can't take buckshot to the rifle range here.
8/24/2018 9:13:36 PM EDT
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So... starting the J-team?

Thanks for sharing - I’m interesting in how well rounds from the bench group (edit:  nvm, the pie plates were from the bench).

The rapid fire on the blue man target could in part be explained by the stringing mini’s are known for?
8/24/2018 10:30:15 PM EDT
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The GB opened up when I put a few rounds through it. The Ranch didn't.
8/25/2018 9:41:57 AM EDT
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So... starting the J-team?

Thanks for sharing - I'm interesting in how well rounds from the bench group (edit:  nvm, the pie plates were from the bench).

The rapid fire on the blue man target could in part be explained by the stringing mini's are known for?
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Yeah, the plates were the bench. But only three rounds each too. Didn't really put them through their paces. On the Blue Man Target, the string could be attributed to the GB heating up or just me fooling around. I was do some snap shooting. Had the rifle at low ready, bring it up real quicl, fire off three to four rounds, etc....

I shot more with the GB than the Ranch simply because the Folding Stock is fun.
8/25/2018 9:48:29 AM EDT
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So the newer barrels are better then.

You might want to do several five shot strings with each.  Fire them slow and allow time to cool.  Then install an accustrut and test the difference.
8/25/2018 9:52:09 AM EDT
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So the newer barrels are better then.

You might want to do several five shot strings with each.  Fire them slow and allow time to cool.  Then install an accustrut and test the difference.
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The strut interferes with the GB bayonet lug. Not interested. Also I will never shoot my the GB at long distances. Maybe 200 yards, which for a Mini, is still bad guy accurate.

But yeah, when I get more time. 5 round strings will be done.
8/25/2018 9:56:15 AM EDT
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The American garbage can gun.
8/25/2018 9:58:15 AM EDT
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Minis use the old Soviet zero.  Aim for the belt line, hit the target somewhere between the neck and knees.
8/25/2018 9:58:19 AM EDT
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Try the strut on the Ranch then.  Years ago I learned the trick to the Mini is slow fire with cooling between shots.   A heavier barrel helps.
8/25/2018 10:01:53 AM EDT
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For the life of me I don’t understand why Ruger doesn’t make a new or limited production of the old Government model. I know they said they don’t have the tooling anymore but it wouldn’t be that hard to do it.  I know that I would buy at least one for simply nostalgia...
8/25/2018 10:13:35 AM EDT
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I give you your Bullwinkle's choice:

Hors de combat!

or

Good enough for government work.

8/25/2018 10:20:46 AM EDT
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I never rapid fired my 1980's Mini. I found the accuracy acceptable. The pencil barrel makes it light and
handy. It also makes the gun a poor choice for a high rate of fire! I imagine if you dumped a few mags though
one it would damage accuracy permanently. I think the new ones are too heavy and far too expensive.

I still have it...a blued non ranch rifle. It is fine for it's intended use...it is not a SHTF gun.
 My Colt and DD rifles fill that role just fine.
8/25/2018 10:23:14 AM EDT
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I never rapid fired my 1980's Mini. I found the accuracy acceptable. The pencil barrel makes it light and
handy. It also makes the gun a poor choice for a high rate of fire! I imagine if you dumped a few mags though
one it would damage accuracy permanently. I think the new ones are too heavy and far too expensive.

I still have it...a blued non ranch rifle. It is fine for it's intended use...it is not a SHTF gun.
 My Colt and DD rifles fill that role just fine.
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I have 11 ARs and 3 Minis. I doubt 40rds though the GB hurt it.
8/25/2018 10:26:05 AM EDT
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You know...................ehhh forget it.

I would prolly buy one of those folder repo thingers if Ruger made one again.
8/25/2018 10:33:25 AM EDT
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Not exactly scientific.
8/25/2018 10:40:31 AM EDT
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I have 11 ARs and 3 Minis. I doubt 40rds though the GB hurt it.
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I never rapid fired my 1980's Mini. I found the accuracy acceptable. The pencil barrel makes it light and
handy. It also makes the gun a poor choice for a high rate of fire! I imagine if you dumped a few mags though
one it would damage accuracy permanently. I think the new ones are too heavy and far too expensive.

I still have it...a blued non ranch rifle. It is fine for it's intended use...it is not a SHTF gun.
 My Colt and DD rifles fill that role just fine.
I have 11 ARs and 3 Minis. I doubt 40rds though the GB hurt it.
I would not risk it. I remember being amazed at how fast the skinny barrel got very hot. In slow fire. I would
take a break and let it cool. Of course, I am OCD with all things barrel life related and admit readily I am
probably far too cautious.
8/25/2018 10:43:24 AM EDT
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Never claimed it was.
8/25/2018 10:46:36 AM EDT
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I would not risk it. I remember being amazed at how fast the skinny barrel got very hot. In slow fire. I would
take a break and let it cool. Of course, I am OCD with all things barrel life related and admit readily I am
probably far too cautious.
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I never rapid fired my 1980's Mini. I found the accuracy acceptable. The pencil barrel makes it light and
handy. It also makes the gun a poor choice for a high rate of fire! I imagine if you dumped a few mags though
one it would damage accuracy permanently. I think the new ones are too heavy and far too expensive.

I still have it...a blued non ranch rifle. It is fine for it's intended use...it is not a SHTF gun.
 My Colt and DD rifles fill that role just fine.
I have 11 ARs and 3 Minis. I doubt 40rds though the GB hurt it.
I would not risk it. I remember being amazed at how fast the skinny barrel got very hot. In slow fire. I would
take a break and let it cool. Of course, I am OCD with all things barrel life related and admit readily I am
probably far too cautious.


As a kid, I shot the ever living shit out of this pre 580 series Ranch Rifle. I recall burning through cases of ammo when it was cheap. I'd load up all of my 20rd mags (eight at the time since they were pre-ban and this was during the AWB) and just go nuts. Shooting stuff on the berm. Dirt clogs, plastic bottles, old wooden doors, etc.

It is still accurate and capable.

The Minis aren't that bad.
8/25/2018 10:46:51 AM EDT
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Exactly how were you comparing the two? The title includes the term "vs."
8/25/2018 10:49:06 AM EDT
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Shot both from the bench at 50 yards with a three round group form a cold bore.
8/25/2018 10:50:16 AM EDT
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OK, that was funny...

I don't know why people continue to pursue the Mini 14...

Nothing it does is appealing...and as a famous gun writer once said..."Only accurate guns are interesting"
8/25/2018 10:50:25 AM EDT
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Do some ten shot groups.
8/25/2018 10:51:49 AM EDT
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OK, that was funny...

I don't know why people continue to pursue the Mini 14...

Nothing it does is appealing...and as a famous gun writer once said..."Only accurate guns are interesting"
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Turkey season has passed, you know.
OK, that was funny...

I don't know why people continue to pursue the Mini 14...

Nothing it does is appealing...and as a famous gun writer once said..."Only accurate guns are interesting"
Because not everything is an AR.

People like FN FALs and AKs too.
8/25/2018 10:52:10 AM EDT
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Oh.
8/25/2018 10:52:38 AM EDT
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I will eventually.... right now working an off duty.
8/25/2018 10:53:32 AM EDT
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Shot both from the bench at 50 yards with a three round group form a cold bore.
Oh.
Don't take things super serious.... this is a Mini thread in GD after all.
8/25/2018 11:09:38 AM EDT
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https://i.imgur.com/11hCqca.jpg

As a kid, I shot the ever living shit out of this pre 580 series Ranch Rifle. I recall burning through cases of ammo when it was cheap. I'd load up all of my 20rd mags (eight at the time since they were pre-ban and this was during the AWB) and just go nuts. Shooting stuff on the berm. Dirt clogs, plastic bottles, old wooden doors, etc.

It is still accurate and capable.

The Minis aren't that bad.
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I never rapid fired my 1980's Mini. I found the accuracy acceptable. The pencil barrel makes it light and
handy. It also makes the gun a poor choice for a high rate of fire! I imagine if you dumped a few mags though
one it would damage accuracy permanently. I think the new ones are too heavy and far too expensive.

I still have it...a blued non ranch rifle. It is fine for it's intended use...it is not a SHTF gun.
 My Colt and DD rifles fill that role just fine.
I have 11 ARs and 3 Minis. I doubt 40rds though the GB hurt it.
I would not risk it. I remember being amazed at how fast the skinny barrel got very hot. In slow fire. I would
take a break and let it cool. Of course, I am OCD with all things barrel life related and admit readily I am
probably far too cautious.
https://i.imgur.com/11hCqca.jpg

As a kid, I shot the ever living shit out of this pre 580 series Ranch Rifle. I recall burning through cases of ammo when it was cheap. I'd load up all of my 20rd mags (eight at the time since they were pre-ban and this was during the AWB) and just go nuts. Shooting stuff on the berm. Dirt clogs, plastic bottles, old wooden doors, etc.

It is still accurate and capable.

The Minis aren't that bad.
Cool! I passed on getting a stainless folder because it did not feel right to me.

I regret that a lot!
8/25/2018 11:11:15 AM EDT
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I should add, I really love my old Mini...it is a great handy carbine!
8/25/2018 11:23:01 AM EDT
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Nice comparison shot of the GB and ranch rifle. It really shows how much thicker the new barrels are compared to the old pencil barrels.

I also like your stock pouch. I have some USGI stock pouches just like yours except in black. I think I will mount one on my new $399 wally Mini-14. A practical, low cost way of keeping a reload on your rifle.
8/25/2018 11:26:34 AM EDT
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Throw an accu-strut on the GB...hell throw one on the ranch rifle too. Should help a bit with the stringing, plus they look cool.

8/25/2018 11:27:42 AM EDT
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Throw an accu-strut on the GB...hell throw one on the ranch rifle too. Should help a bit with the stringing, plus they look cool.

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OP says it won't fit with the bayonet lug.  The accu-strut should be modified (or a new one made) for the GB.
8/25/2018 11:48:38 AM EDT
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You had any issues with the factory 30 round mags being reliable?

I've heard some chatter online about it.

@Miami_JBT
8/25/2018 11:50:10 AM EDT
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All of my 30rd mags are Pre-Ban. I still have five new in the box from back then. They all work fine.
8/25/2018 11:56:19 AM EDT
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Just figured I'd ask.

Thought you got a few with the one you snagged that came with a dozen mags.
8/25/2018 12:34:39 PM EDT
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I did.... those are the mags still new in the box.
8/25/2018 12:40:31 PM EDT
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Never understood why they didn't go with a slightly heavier barrel with fluting.
8/25/2018 12:57:22 PM EDT
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Because the late 1960s wasn't all about heavy barrels.
8/25/2018 1:11:10 PM EDT
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Any post showing some results is good and appreciated even if not "scientific".
8/25/2018 1:26:05 PM EDT
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Wish I could have snagged on of them at Wal-Mart during their clearance.  Looks like a fun shooter.
8/25/2018 6:29:06 PM EDT
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very cool OP

this thread is reminding me that I need to throw a Tech Sight rear sight on my 2014 582 series

right now at 100yds it shoots a 4in 5 shit group with 55FMJ and hits steel at 200 which is the furthest I'll take it

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