[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Historical ancestors, anyone? (Page 1 of 4)
Posted: 8/9/2017 1:17:48 AM EDT
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I always thought my moms dad was an American Indian. He was about 6-2 or so, very red complected, large nose, very outdoorsy. The family speculation was that he was American Indian.
This summer, i re connected with my moms kid brother. He had traced the family tree on that side to a member of Major Fortsythes hand picked band of civilian scouts. http://www.abuffalosoldier.com/forsyth.htm They were Kansas civilians, back when Kansas was frontier land, full of buffalo and pissed off Arapahoe, Cheyenne, and Sioux. Forsythe hand picked scouts and went looking for trouble. My ancestor was one of the firet 14 selected. They found it at a sandbar later called Beechers Island, for an officer who was killed in the engagement. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Beecher_Island Pretty hairy couple day engagement, 50 scouts with Spencer repeating rifles against 200 to 1000 warriors led by Roman Nose. Many other warriors fell, while four of the scouts including Beecher, Acting Surgeon J.H. Mooers, George W. Culver, and William Wilson were killed. Another 15 scouts were wounded, including Colonel Forsyth. Forsyth received a mild head wound and his leg was fractured by a gunshot wound.[6] They were releived/rescued four days later: Over fifty dead horses greeted them with their putrid smell. Forsyth’s command had been out of rations and forced to survive on the decaying horse flesh. Forsyth's 2nd in command, Lt. Fredrick H. Beecher, had been killed during the battle. Forsyth had been shot in the thigh, fracturing his leg, and wounded in the forehead. He was not expected to survive another day. The air around him was completely filled with a great stench and was swarming with black flies feasting on the rotting defensive line of dead horses. The square sandy hole, where Forsyth was lying was half encircled by dead mounts and would have become his grave if help had not arrived when it did. Other gun pits, interconnected, contained the living and the dead of his unit.[11] So, thats my ancestor, not an indian at all, but my great great grandfather on my moms side was an indian fighter. The more you know... |
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I've got ancestors that were at the early Plymouth colony, and a good many who were here pre-revolution. I've got ancestors that left for Canada during the revolution out of loyalty to the king, and others who served in the new U.S. militia to fight for independence. I've got an ancestor who fought at Chattanooga and Chickamauga with the CSA, and died at second Dalton, and another who is the reason there's a town in WV named "Ireland". I've got a German ancestor who, unbeknownst to us until recently, came from a tiny farm village that is located about a mile and a half from the first German farm village that we lived in, when my dad was stationed over there.
Lots of neat stuff, nothing big, or famous that we know about, and that's just fine with me. The little things are kind of cooler than the grand claims that too many people make for their family history. |
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I've got ancestors that were at the early Plymouth colony, and a good many who were here pre-revolution. I've got ancestors that left for Canada during the revolution out of loyalty to the king, and others who served in the new U.S. militia to fight for independence. I've got an ancestor who fought at Chattanooga and Chickamauga with the CSA, and died at second Dalton, and another who is the reason there's a town in WV named "Ireland". I've got a German ancestor who, unbeknownst to us until recently, came from a tiny farm village that is located about a mile and a half from the first German farm village that we lived in, when my dad was stationed over there. Lots of neat stuff, nothing big, or famous that we know about, and that's just fine with me. The little things are kind of cooler than the grand claims that too many people make for their family history. |
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Gen George Custer. Seriously. I’d have to look. Fifth cousin, four times removed or something.
eta: My 6th-GGF My 6th-GGF Uncle Abraham Cedar Creek & Belle Grove |
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This is apparently my GGGGGGGGGGGG or however many Grandfathers
linky Would DNA test show American Indian w/ that little percentage??? |
I'm related to some Danish Noble who fucked off to America rather than serve his time in the army 
Then he hooked up with some Mormon chick who didn't want to be one of Brigham Young's wives. She even stole a horse to escape. I don't think they're famous, but the draft-dodging lordling hooking up with the mormon-runaway-horsethief makes for a good story. |
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That's some cool family history.
My great-grandmother was a Wedgwood (Wedgwood China, were potters to the royal family going back to the 1700's). They sent me the family geneology file that includes over 4,400 names going back 79 generations. It includes a lot of short histories such as actions at certain battles hundreds of years ago so is fun to browse. And GD's favorite scientist, Charles Darwin, married a Wedgwood (he's my 5th cousin, 7x removed). The program I use has a relationship calculator. I'm a direct descendant of Roman Emporer Charlemagne 
And good old Georgie is my cousin 
ETA: Correction - the file now has a total of 83 generations and includes 5,122 names. I haven't updated it since 2014 so have more to add. The earliest birthdate is Charles Martel in 686 AD (Charlemagne's grandfather) but it goes much further back. The first name is someone named Seaf. |
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Direct descendant on my Mother's side of Richard Rich via one of his daughters.
Also an extremely distant cousin of Queen Elizabeth II (I believe Richard Rich is our common ancestor). Slightly closer cousin to James Deen. I'm also related in some way to several of the Founding Fathers. |
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So, thats my ancestor, not an indian at all, but my great great grandfather on my moms side was an indian fighter. Speaking of the more you know... You contain 6.25% of the DNA that made him into the man he was. There would also be 8 men who would be your great great grandfather, 4 from your mom's side and 4 from your dad's side. Once you start looking at everyone who factored into actually creating you, instead of following one surname, the whole idea of lineage and surname seems kind of foolish. Cool story though. |
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If you’re serious I’d be interested how. Relatives in Greene County, Oh? My fathers side is mostly ohio river valley area while my mother's is west virgina. |
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My dad did the research. He was a cousin to some ancestor on his mother's side. Her last name was Martin. He sent me the tree information once but I am not sure where I saved it. My fathers side is mostly ohio river valley area while my mother's is west virgina. |
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Apparently I'm a decendent of this guy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques-René_de_Brisay_de_Denonville,_Marquis_de_Denonville |
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Speaking of the more you know... You contain 6.25% of the DNA that made him into the man he was. There would also be 8 men who would be your great great grandfather, 4 from your mom's side and 4 from your dad's side. Once you start looking at everyone who factored into actually creating you, instead of following one surname, the whole idea of lineage and surname seems kind of foolish. Cool story though. Quoted:
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So, thats my ancestor, not an indian at all, but my great great grandfather on my moms side was an indian fighter. Speaking of the more you know... You contain 6.25% of the DNA that made him into the man he was. There would also be 8 men who would be your great great grandfather, 4 from your mom's side and 4 from your dad's side. Once you start looking at everyone who factored into actually creating you, instead of following one surname, the whole idea of lineage and surname seems kind of foolish. Cool story though. Its interesting to see where we come from. I had no idea. |
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General Wainwright of the Bataan death march. Connected to my Dad on his Mom's side. Her sister was a Wainwright by marriage and I believe the good General was the brother of her husband. So 2nd Uncle to my Dad?
My wife's uncle was some obscure officer in the Sicherheitsdienst des Reichsführers-SS . They were true believers, I'll give them that. At the end of the war an entire segment of her family E&E'd to AUS and Argentina. I think they had to. |
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My wife and her family are direct ancestors of John Rutledge, the 2nd Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and writer of the Declaration of Independence. His brother is Edward Rutledge, signer of the Declaration. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rutledge
My wife, daughter and my SIL are staying at the former John Rutledge's house as we speak. |
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The tribes from which I am a descendant(though not a member due to being adopted as a baby), the Yankton and Rosebud Sioux, were present on the field the day that George Armstrong Custer's political ambitions came to an end.
Say what you will about the man, how many presidential hopefuls today would have the balls to meet his nation's enemies on the field of battle? So what if those balls ended up stuffed in his mouth by the end of the fight? 
*yes, I know it was his brother's corpse that was mutilated, not his, but the joke didn't work the other way* |
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Supposedly Stonewall Jackson. Grandmother used to tell me this all the time since her mother was a Jackson. I've looked at the Stonewall Jackson family tree and could not connect the dots. Not interested enough to dig deeper.
Co-worker is a decedent of John Wilkes Booth. We were at a trade show where a company named Lincoln had an actor dressed in Abraham Lincoln period suit and top hat. Dude was a 100% looking Lincoln. Co-worker introduced himself and said he's here to finish the job.
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