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8/8/2017 6:20:33 PM EDT
Chiropractors..... do we like or don't like?

Dr's or Voodo?
8/8/2017 6:22:18 PM EDT
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Chiropractors..... do we like or don't like?

Dr's or Voodo?
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We don't like and we like them even less with an apostrophe!
8/8/2017 6:22:58 PM EDT
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A cult of quacks.
8/8/2017 6:23:57 PM EDT
[#3]
I went for the first time last Friday..... not sure I could tell a difference other than not having my $25 in my pocket. Maybe I went to the wrong one..... IDK. I figured it was worth a shot for $25
8/8/2017 6:25:06 PM EDT
[#4]
I like mine, but that being said I couldn't afford to get adjusted without insurance.
8/8/2017 6:28:44 PM EDT
[#5]
Snake oil. Go see a real doctor. Not some trade school graduate who calls himself "Doctor".
8/8/2017 7:10:16 PM EDT
[#6]
A little of each.  Doctors now days want to push pills for a fix which is not always a good choice but it depends on them individually MD or DO there is a difference there also.  Chiropractors are quacks more often than not but they do know how to pop things back in place, problem is they want to reschedule multiple visits its not a one time fix cause if something was out of place once it likely will be again cause something is wrong.  Often times physical exercise of the affected area can be very beneficial building strength in related muscles slowly and stretching properly.  Physical Therapist tend to work with doctors on these issues so you might want to talk first to a Physical Therapist about your options.
8/8/2017 7:15:03 PM EDT
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Fucking witch doctors
8/8/2017 7:17:55 PM EDT
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My Dad was one from the early 1950's through the early 1970's.
They are not witch doctors.
Like everything medical there are good and bad.
Helped me many times.
8/8/2017 7:18:46 PM EDT
[#9]
quacks for the most part.
8/8/2017 7:19:18 PM EDT
[#10]
in before the chiro boosters tell you they get more education than MDs.
8/8/2017 7:21:14 PM EDT
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They are not anything medical.  A shaman (witch doctor) has as much medical knowledge.
8/8/2017 7:25:04 PM EDT
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Mine is a 40 something. His approach is old school. He manipulates neck to lower back. I know he does some physicals for truck drivers and the local school. He volunteers for school run events to treat and wrap the athletes  with bandages, etc. All around good dude. His fee is $25. He manipulates me wherever I ask. It works 50% of the time on relieving my pain.
8/8/2017 7:26:39 PM EDT
[#13]
recognized by the govt. as legal doctors, so there's that. Not super concerned with people's opinion of us. If you want to go, great, if you don't, also great. We are certainly a great answer to many musculoskeletal conditions and treatments, but not the right answer to every condition. Good chiros will co-manage or refer out when it's something outside our wheelhouse.

If chiropractic didn't work, I'm pretty sure most professional athletes wouldn't see them (they do), nor would they be on staff in VA hospitals (we are), nor would we have some of the lowest malpractice rates in the industry (we do).

Think what you want, but chiropractic gets results for many things. Always happy to give tours of my office and show anybody how we do stuff here in the busiest chiropractic office in the world (from the latest stats I could gather).
8/8/2017 7:27:32 PM EDT
[#14]
reefing on bad discs is not smart especially in the neck
8/8/2017 7:28:38 PM EDT
[#15]
If you want to dissect your cervical arterial circulation, there's no one better than a chiropractor to do it.
8/8/2017 7:29:46 PM EDT
[#16]
Had severe sciatic nerve pain, classical pain from buttock down to toes via leg, felt like hornets with foot long stingers nailing me.
After first visit was 100% better.
Told him I didn't have the time to come every day for a month, he fixed me real quick!
8/8/2017 7:31:53 PM EDT
[#17]
Chiroquackters. Did you ever watch Two and a Half Men?
8/8/2017 7:33:05 PM EDT
[#18]
I was in desparate straits in 2001, unable to sleep more than 45 mins/day due to pain. This went on for months; I was absolutely desperate!  Went to the chiro shool clinic.  20 mins of heavy hot pads and 15 minutes of flipping and flopping  me around like a dead chicken, and boom, my problem was solved.   It was fucking miraculous!  I actually, literally cried from relief and gratitude.  I know that chiros can get a little wacky, but mine pretty much saved my life.
8/8/2017 7:33:43 PM EDT
[#19]
They are the strippers of the medical world. Some people love them some hate them.
They can help you or fuck you up.

It's important to bail early if the pain increases.
8/8/2017 7:34:18 PM EDT
[#20]
The can help with BASIC things.... but they can't perform miracles and correct conditions that actually require surgery
8/8/2017 7:34:34 PM EDT
[#21]
One helped me figure out what much larger issue I had while I was getting therapy. As far as the snap crackle pop- I think it's in the mind. Now soft tissue massage is really helpful and less risk.
8/8/2017 7:38:43 PM EDT
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I tried 2 and went quite a few times.  I'm an RN.  Both places were skeezy but I was unfamiliar with process so I gave it a chance.  
Snake oil.  I doubt anyone who likes chiropractic would get less results from a good massage.
And introducing themselves as "doctor"? What a joke.
8/8/2017 7:42:27 PM EDT
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While there are many questionable chiropractors (there are also a number of MDs that are scammers as well), if you screen them well enough and find a good one, there are times that they are better than an MD. I developed a crick in my neck one morning. I went to work hoping that it would work itself out. It got progressively worse into the night and got so bad I felt like my neck had an invisible brace on it. If I attempted to move my head slightly I felt intense pain even to the point of dropping to my knees until the pain subsided. The next day it was still intense and I was about to call a doctor. A guy at work said he knew how to fix it and I let him try. Sat me in a chair and from behind he popped my neck. I saw stars for a few seconds, but, amazingly the pain was 50% gone. A few hours later it was 75% gone. The next morning the pain was all gone.
8/8/2017 7:43:12 PM EDT
[#24]
Chiropractor's what?

Lol, mine's an ARFCOMMER and treats most of my family. I know he has helped me with my lower back pain and kept me off pain meds, he's also helped my son with some hip issues that were causing issues with his walking
8/8/2017 7:48:34 PM EDT
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Had trouble breathing for months. Went to the doctor three times, ER once. They did thousands of dollars of tests. My dads chiropractor friend was drinking with dad and ran a thumb down my back. Popped a rib a bit and all was right in my world thenceforth.

Google Julie Peterson, she was a model before a chiro. The best part of the adjustment was the hug before you left
8/8/2017 7:49:06 PM EDT
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They are not anything medical.  A shaman (witch doctor) has as much medical knowledge.
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A shaman has an impressive cure rate. It turns out that people who believe often get better. The same is true of doctors.
8/8/2017 7:50:47 PM EDT
[#27]
Quackopractors!
At best: overpriced massage
At worst: overpriced snakeoil that may harm you
8/8/2017 7:53:38 PM EDT
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You are saying that shaman=chiro=doctor... check
8/8/2017 7:55:49 PM EDT
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No. Not at all. I'm being dismissive of his dismissiveness.
8/8/2017 7:56:33 PM EDT
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Had severe sciatic nerve pain, classical pain from buttock down to toes via leg, felt like hornets with foot long stingers nailing me.
After first visit was 100% better.
Told him I didn't have the time to come every day for a month, he fixed me real quick!
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This is exactly my own example.
You will not convince a lot of these guys as most have probably never even visited a good one, but by god they have their opinion.
8/8/2017 7:56:45 PM EDT
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No. Not at all. I'm being dismissive of his dismissiveness.
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Ah ok... tone can be tough in text
8/8/2017 8:08:11 PM EDT
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voodoo?
yes
and it took  me some looking but I found a great chiropractor that has worked miracles for me.
I've had back pain my whole life and talked to many "real " doctors about it. all they ever reccommend is exercise and phisical therapy. ever priced out 12 weeks of PT? 

my chiro is a holistic doctor, she does chiro, accupressure, accupuncture and other voodu stuff I've not tried.

since I've been seeing her I've felt better than I can ever remember. about 8 years now
8/8/2017 9:02:00 PM EDT
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Guessing most people calling quack have never been to one. After 20 years of sinus infections , sinus surgery, three times a year to the "real" doctors for every sinus med, steroid and $200.00 bottle of nose spray known to man, I ended up at my local neighborhood chiro to get some assistance with a shoulder injury. After a shoulder and back x-ray he tells me he can help with some therapy on the shoulder and also asks me about my sinus issues. I laughed and told him we didn't have enough time. He says, "we'll get those cleared up too". With his scheduled visits, not only did he help me get my shoulder working again but kept me out of the doc's and off the prescription meds for damn near four years with no sinus infections. Yeah, I had quit going before that.
8/8/2017 9:04:49 PM EDT
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Guessing most people calling quack have never been to one. After 20 years of sinus infections , sinus surgery, three times a year to the "real" doctors for every sinus med, steroid and $200.00 bottle of nose spray known to man, I ended up at my local neighborhood chiro to get some assistance with a shoulder injury. After a shoulder and back x-ray he tells me he can help with some therapy on the shoulder and also asks me about my sinus issues. I laughed and told him we didn't have enough time. He says, "we'll get those cleared up too". With his scheduled visits, not only did he help me get my shoulder working again but kept me out of the doc's and off the prescription meds for damn near four years with no sinus infections. Yeah, I had quit going before that.
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you do realize that anatomically, physiologically, and biologically impossible, right?
8/8/2017 9:09:16 PM EDT
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Like any other professional, it depends on the person moreso than the practice.

I hurt my back pretty bad last year, bad bout of sciatica from trying to climb stairs to get into better shape.  Got to the point where I could barely walk to the bathroom from my bed.  Conventional medicine only got me partially better after several weeks.  Went to a highly recommended Chiro.  Took an x-ray to show exactly what my spine was doing before he began adjusting anything.

First few visits he spaced a couple weeks apart, then months apart, then may 2-3 times a year only as needed.  It really helped where conventional medicine didn't do shit, and my back is more or less back to normal now.

A good Chiro will only adjust you if you need it, and tell you so.  A bad one will want constant visits regardless.
8/8/2017 9:10:35 PM EDT
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Yet, it worked.
8/8/2017 9:11:55 PM EDT
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Hell, I'd believe it after being through what I have.  Solved a stepdaughter's constant ear infection problems.
8/8/2017 9:13:18 PM EDT
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This is exactly my own example.
You will not convince a lot of these guys as most have probably never even visited a good one, but by god they have their opinion.
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Had severe sciatic nerve pain, classical pain from buttock down to toes via leg, felt like hornets with foot long stingers nailing me.
After first visit was 100% better.
Told him I didn't have the time to come every day for a month, he fixed me real quick!
This is exactly my own example.
You will not convince a lot of these guys as most have probably never even visited a good one, but by god they have their opinion.
Wait, what?

So people intentionally go to bad ones?

Or they have to keep going to them until they find a "good one", and only then can they have an opinion----and it has to be a good opinion or else they haven't gone to a "good one" yet.
8/8/2017 9:16:43 PM EDT
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Wait, what?

So people intentionally go to bad ones?


Or they have to keep going to them until they find a "good one", and only then can they have an opinion----and it has to be a good opinion or else they haven't gone to a "good one" yet.
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Had severe sciatic nerve pain, classical pain from buttock down to toes via leg, felt like hornets with foot long stingers nailing me.
After first visit was 100% better.
Told him I didn't have the time to come every day for a month, he fixed me real quick!
This is exactly my own example.
You will not convince a lot of these guys as most have probably never even visited a good one, but by god they have their opinion.
Wait, what?

So people intentionally go to bad ones?


Or they have to keep going to them until they find a "good one", and only then can they have an opinion----and it has to be a good opinion or else they haven't gone to a "good one" yet.
Same happens with MD's.

I've been going to one periodically for low back pain for a few months now.  It's helped me more than doctors that just seem more interested in X-rays that show nothing then give me scripts for pills I won't take/don't want.  It also had the wonderful side effect of easing the symptoms of chronic nonbacterial prostatitis I've had for nearly a decade.
8/8/2017 9:24:14 PM EDT
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Guessing most people calling quack have never been to one. After 20 years of sinus infections , sinus surgery, three times a year to the "real" doctors for every sinus med, steroid and $200.00 bottle of nose spray known to man, I ended up at my local neighborhood chiro to get some assistance with a shoulder injury. After a shoulder and back x-ray he tells me he can help with some therapy on the shoulder and also asks me about my sinus issues. I laughed and told him we didn't have enough time. He says, "we'll get those cleared up too". With his scheduled visits, not only did he help me get my shoulder working again but kept me out of the doc's and off the prescription meds for damn near four years with no sinus infections. Yeah, I had quit going before that.
you do realize that anatomically, physiologically, and biologically impossible, right?
Just keep going for your 2 shots in the ass, 12-16 day Prednisone taper and 10 days of Cipro twice a year. You'll be fine....

Oh, don't forget your daily prescription of Astilin nasal spray. And your over the counter Zyrtec daily.
8/8/2017 9:25:34 PM EDT
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WRONG. Every time I go to the chiropractor one of the end results is that my sinuses are clear. Allergies for life so it's one of the few times I'm totally clear. 

I'm sure you know better though. 
8/8/2017 9:27:10 PM EDT
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If you find the right one, miracle worker.  
8/8/2017 9:30:36 PM EDT
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Legal Doctors?  Like a Physician?  Can you prescribe medication?  Read X-rays and CT scans?  Diagnosis diseases or conditions? Refer to a specialist?

Just curious.  Never been to a chiropractor.  Just thought their educational path was much much different than a Medical Doctor.
8/8/2017 9:31:23 PM EDT
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Preface: I've never been, but considering.

That said.....

Everyone I've ever known who's been:

"This is great, but doc says I need a few more adjustments".......

5 years later.....

"This is great, but doc says I need a few more adjustments".......

8/8/2017 9:33:18 PM EDT
[#45]
I'm willing to accept some may be good, some may be mediocre.
The quandary, how to tell?
8/8/2017 9:37:37 PM EDT
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Mine is supremely fantastic.

But.

The best treatment I've gotten from them isn't treatment. It's the things they've taught me to do for myself. Some tools to work on myself. The compounding effects of many different changes.

The mobility work alone has changed my life.

The exposure to the work of a dude named Kelly Starrett has changed my life.



Chiro alone probably won't do a ton. But combined with some other stuff it can go a long way.
8/8/2017 9:38:19 PM EDT
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Wait, what?

So people intentionally go to bad ones?

Or they have to keep going to them until they find a "good one", and only then can they have an opinion----and it has to be a good opinion or else they haven't gone to a "good one" yet.
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lol.
How many pill pushing MD's that are following big pharma's check have you waded through before settling on one that would listen to you?
8/8/2017 9:43:27 PM EDT
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You can perceive of no myofascial connection between the upper cervical spine and the pharynx and nasal sinuses?  Guess you didn't spend much time looking at the neck in your anatomy classes.  Google up the palatopharyngeus and salpingopharyngeus muscles for a start. 

And, as another said, it worked.  Have seen it, and experienced it, many times myself.

But I don't go around telling patients that cervical mobilizations will definitely clear their sinuses (or cure their colds, etc, etc).  I also try not to make overly broad claims against areas of healthcare about which I am ignorant.
8/8/2017 9:44:19 PM EDT
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My personal experience, having gone to two different chiropractors, is they CAUSE more injury than they fix. 

YMMV.

I will not go see another.  I am sure many have been helped, I have learned my lesson.
8/8/2017 9:47:05 PM EDT
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You can perceive of no myofascial connection between the upper cervical spine and the pharynx and nasal sinuses?  Guess you didn't spend much time looking at the neck in your anatomy classes.  Google up the palatopharyngeus and salpingopharyngeus muscles for a start. 

And, as another said, it worked.  Have seen it, and experienced it, many times myself.

But I don't go around telling patients that cervical mobilizations will definitely clear their sinuses (or cure their colds, etc, etc).  I also try not to make overly broad claims against areas of healthcare about which I am ignorant.
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you do realize I have half a decade of ENT training, right?
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