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7/24/2017 12:34:05 PM EDT
Are they serious?

I know Seattles house pricing is skyrocketing, but according to them, my house has increased around 4.5 times the price I paid in 3 years?  

Redfin and Realtor both have similar more reasonable values of about double the purchase price...

What is the benefit of overvaluing homes to their company?
7/24/2017 12:35:49 PM EDT
[#1]
Zillow's estimate on my house is about $100K higher than Redfin. It seems rather optimistic.
7/24/2017 12:37:36 PM EDT
[#2]
It depends on an equation with market data plugged into gat data and information about your house like sq/ft rooms, bathrooms, etc.

You cannot value a house without stepping foot inside it.

Zestimate is worthless 
7/24/2017 12:38:20 PM EDT
[#3]
Use redfin, much more accurate in my experience.
7/24/2017 12:38:43 PM EDT
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Only one way to find out OP. List your house. Or get it appraised. Seattle market is ridiculous. I made $100k in one year on my townhome in High Point. Fucking High Point.
7/24/2017 12:38:44 PM EDT
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Last couple of houses that sold on my street were within spitting distance of the zillow estimate, some higher some lower. It's hit or miss some times but a lot better then it used to be.
7/24/2017 12:40:54 PM EDT
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Zillow is only good if there are a lot of comps in your area and it's a fairly predictable market. If their system doesn't find reasonable comps, it just inputs anything sold in the area which can really inflate the value. In the DC area where my house is at right now, it's usually within a 2-4% margin of the actual selling prices on homes. So i'd say it's pretty reliable.
7/24/2017 12:42:29 PM EDT
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Houses in my neighborhood (30 miles from Seattle) sell in less than 1 week and above asking price. The Zillow estimates seem accurate.
7/24/2017 12:44:09 PM EDT
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Zillow is only good if there are a lot of comps in your area and it's a fairly predictable market. If their system doesn't find reasonable comps, it just inputs anything sold in the area which can really inflate the value. In the DC area where my house is at right now, it's usually within a 2-4% margin of the actual selling prices on homes. So i'd say it's pretty reliable.
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Thank you, that must be it... there are no comps on Zillow for my home.
7/24/2017 12:44:41 PM EDT
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Mine was fairly accurate, just had an appraisal last week and Zillow was only 4k higher.
7/24/2017 12:45:18 PM EDT
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Only one way to find out OP. List your house. Or get it appraised. Seattle market is ridiculous. I made $100k in one year on my townhome in High Point. Fucking High Point.
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I'm working on it... the wife wants to be here in this house forever though!

And nice deal!
7/24/2017 12:48:01 PM EDT
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Mine is almost $40k higher than it's value. I'm in the country but there are a bunch of new homes on my road set back in the woods. Average price on those are about $400k, I think it throws off the algorithm a little
7/24/2017 12:50:59 PM EDT
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Zillow's estimated the value of a house in town as $250k and around that for a year. The house goes up for sale; asking price $350k. Zillow's estimate suddenly shoots up to $354k.
7/24/2017 12:51:45 PM EDT
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It depends on an equation with market data plugged into gat data and information about your house like sq/ft rooms, bathrooms, etc.

You cannot value a house without stepping foot inside it.

Zestimate is worthless 
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Came here to say this
7/24/2017 12:53:29 PM EDT
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For my area, I take a look at the zestimate and derate it by about 10%. For right now, that's pretty accurate.
7/24/2017 12:53:38 PM EDT
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I'm working on it... the wife wants to be here in this house forever though!

And nice deal!
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Are you in Seattle itself or a suburb? I was born in and lived most of my life in Seattle. Getting the fuck out of Seattle and King County was the best thing my wife and I have done. We were both apprehensive and used to the city life but in all honesty I should have done it YEARS ago. I would NEVER move back to Seattle.

My folks still live there in Magnolia, where I grew up. They are mid seventies and are literally cutoff from anything now as it takes an hour to get to the freeway. Just to get to the fucking freeway.

It is actually quite rare to meet someone from Seattle. Like born there. Most here are not from here. Most that were got the fuck out.
7/24/2017 12:55:34 PM EDT
[#16]
They can be wayyyy off. Mine was slightly high, but last week my coworker showed me his and it was twice whay it should have been.
7/24/2017 1:01:02 PM EDT
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Zillow estimate on my house is about right for the area , but the listing comes up totally wrong on bedrooms and sq ft.
7/24/2017 1:02:28 PM EDT
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For my area...Zillow is generally optimistic.
7/24/2017 1:04:04 PM EDT
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Are you in Seattle itself or a suburb? I was born in and lived most of my life in Seattle. Getting the fuck out of Seattle and King County was the best thing my wife and I have done. We were both apprehensive and used to the city life but in all honesty I should have done it YEARS ago. I would NEVER move back to Seattle.

My folks still live there in Magnolia, where I grew up. They are mid seventies and are literally cutoff from anything now as it takes an hour to get to the freeway. Just to get to the fucking freeway.

It is actually quite rare to meet someone from Seattle. Like born there. Most here are not from here. Most that were got the fuck out.
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I do recall prior to Microsoft blowing up and the 1990s in general people were saying "last person out of Seattle remember to turn out the lights."  It was a dying city until MS and grunge.
7/24/2017 1:04:24 PM EDT
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Zillow estimate on my house is about right for the area , but the listing comes up totally wrong on bedrooms and sq ft.
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You can create an account and update the details about your home.
7/24/2017 1:08:35 PM EDT
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Zillow is only good if there are a lot of comps in your area and it's a fairly predictable market. If their system doesn't find reasonable comps, it just inputs anything sold in the area which can really inflate the value. In the DC area where my house is at right now, it's usually within a 2-4% margin of the actual selling prices on homes. So i'd say it's pretty reliable.
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This OP.

It's dead nuts accurate in my neighborhood but I live in a cookie cutter neighborhood with all homes built by the same builder and a total of 6 different floor plans so comps are easy. My buddy sold his house down the street from me and it sold for precisely the Zestimate price.

Also you can look at the app, find comps and see if any have sold recently in your hood and get an idea that way. The app tells you what the last owner paid.
7/24/2017 1:14:28 PM EDT
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Zillow is only good if there are a lot of comps in your area and it's a fairly predictable market. If their system doesn't find reasonable comps, it just inputs anything sold in the area which can really inflate the value. In the DC area where my house is at right now, it's usually within a 2-4% margin of the actual selling prices on homes. So i'd say it's pretty reliable.
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Zillow can also spaz and undervalue a home. It says a relatives house (~2000 sf home, large barn, large detached garage, and 40 acres) is worth 200k. It's probably worth at least double that.

This is in an area with a very wide range of home types, ages, and lot sizes.
7/24/2017 1:39:53 PM EDT
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I do recall prior to Microsoft blowing up and the 1990s in general people were saying "last person out of Seattle remember to turn out the lights."  It was a dying city until MS and grunge.
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On April 16, 1971, real estate agents Bob McDonald and Jim Youngren put the words, "Will the last person leaving SEATTLE -- Turn out the lights" on a billboard at S. 167th St. and Pacific Highway S. near Sea-Tac airport. The two realtors, who work for Henry Broderick, Inc., put up the billboard as a humorous response to pessimism generated by the national aerospace industry's nosedive, known locally as the Boeing Bust.
A Sign of the Times

The recession was caused as The Boeing Company, the region's largest employer, went from a peak of 100,800 employees in 1967 to a low of 38,690 in April 1971. McDonald said their out-of-town clients, "were amazed that Seattle wasn?t a ghost town with weeds growing in the streets. We wanted to counteract that attitude with a little humor" (Duncan). They chose a billboard site that they inevitably passed after picking up their clients at the airport. The men rented the billboard for $160.

The Boeing recovery began slowly: by October 1971 the firm employed 53,300 workers.
7/24/2017 1:46:39 PM EDT
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Zillow had the wrong number of beds/baths in my last house. Yeah, not trusting that.
7/24/2017 1:54:28 PM EDT
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Both are way higher than my buy price 5 years ago.
Redfin is off on lot size and bed room count. 
Zillow is exact. Has the original listing still.
33k difference between the two estimates.
7/24/2017 1:55:20 PM EDT
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They only pull info from the county assessor, previous listings, or the owner. As previously stated, you can update it with correct information.

In our neighborhood, Zestimates are proving to be low. Had a friend refinance his place and the appraisal came back $40k higher.
7/24/2017 1:55:33 PM EDT
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2 houses for sale in my neighborhood, both are listed near my zestimate, but I have more yard and a better lot.

When I refi'd this winter, it hit the same as the bank's appraisal
7/24/2017 1:58:28 PM EDT
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They only pull info from the county assessor, previous listings, or the owner. As previously stated, you can update it with correct information.

In our neighborhood, Zestimates are proving to be low. Had a friend refinance his place and the appraisal came back $40k higher.
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Zillow had the wrong number of beds/baths in my last house. Yeah, not trusting that.
They only pull info from the county assessor, previous listings, or the owner. As previously stated, you can update it with correct information.

In our neighborhood, Zestimates are proving to be low. Had a friend refinance his place and the appraisal came back $40k higher.
And you feel that Zillow provides accurate home values when they don't even know how many beds/baths are in the house?

Accurate appraisals can't be provided by a computer.
7/24/2017 2:00:46 PM EDT
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I just did a refi last month. VA appraisal came in within $2K of Zillow estimate.
7/24/2017 2:02:02 PM EDT
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If I'm not mistaken, Zillow is based in Seattle.

Might have something to do with it.
7/24/2017 2:04:59 PM EDT
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Are they serious?
I know Seattles house pricing is skyrocketing, but according to them, my house has increased around 4.5 times the price I paid in 3 years?
Redfin and Realtor both have similar more reasonable values of about double the purchase price...
What is the benefit of overvaluing homes to their company?
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They are basing the home prices of other homes of comparable size. 
So, when I looked at my homes valuation a while back before I sold it, it was particularly high. In other neighborhoods, it could have been priced like that, but I was in a blue collar neighborhood so it was like they added $20,000-ish to the price.
7/24/2017 2:08:41 PM EDT
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I just checked my house in socal on redfin, trulia, zillow.

All 3 show $590K.....I only owe 280K....so I'll be selling very soon.



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7/24/2017 2:15:41 PM EDT
[#33]
It varies depending on your area. My house looks like the zestimate is pretty accurate($194k) while Redfin is like $30k low.

Houses like mine with similar work done have been selling easily for 190-195k. Some higher.
7/24/2017 2:26:25 PM EDT
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My house in snohomish appraised within 5k of zillow, appraisal was 280 zillow 275. That was in November, today its saying 310ish.
7/24/2017 2:27:34 PM EDT
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Zillow compares my house on acreage to houses in a subdivision down the street . Zillow seems to struggle a lot.
7/24/2017 2:34:01 PM EDT
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Zillow compares my house on acreage to houses in a subdivision down the street . Zillow seems to struggle a lot.
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Same for mine, they are low by over $120K on my house. No easy comps so they are using last sale and tax data to extrapolate a value.
7/24/2017 2:34:30 PM EDT
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Zillow compares my house on acreage to houses in a subdivision down the street . Zillow seems to struggle a lot.
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I bought mine 5 years ago for 165. I just sold it (officially keys handed over check in hand and everything) for 227. Zillow estimate was 229.
7/24/2017 2:36:58 PM EDT
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Zillow was significantly higher than any other estimate app I used when selling our house ... was very overly optimistic.
7/24/2017 2:41:32 PM EDT
[#39]
I paid $185,000 cash 3 years ago for a North Seattle rental town home located in the same complex as the town home I live in. Zillow now says it's well over $300,000.
I was skeptical at first but recent sales in the same complex have resulted in bidding wars.
7/24/2017 2:42:24 PM EDT
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It varies depending on your area. My house looks like the zestimate is pretty accurate($194k) while Redfin is like $30k low.

Houses like mine with similar work done have been selling easily for 190-195k. Some higher.
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We've had 2 houses sell in the neighborhood in the last 4 years.    Both sold within weeks.   The one next door sold within a week at the asking price (and needed some work...it was an elderly couple's house and he died... ...very nice couple, and the Son-in-Law was the one doing the work for her to get it sold...and he was the original owner of our house).    Zillow's estimate on our house is closer ($15k higher than Redfin), to the $$/sq. foot that the other two houses sold for...

AFARR
7/24/2017 2:51:25 PM EDT
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If you really care, get a realtor to run the comps.  Say youre thinking about selling, theyll do it for free.

Or just look at sold prices in last few months in comparable SF, bed/bath, lot size.
7/24/2017 2:53:33 PM EDT
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And you feel that Zillow provides accurate home values when they don't even know how many beds/baths are in the house?

Accurate appraisals can't be provided by a computer.
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Zillow had the wrong number of beds/baths in my last house. Yeah, not trusting that.
They only pull info from the county assessor, previous listings, or the owner. As previously stated, you can update it with correct information.

In our neighborhood, Zestimates are proving to be low. Had a friend refinance his place and the appraisal came back $40k higher.
And you feel that Zillow provides accurate home values when they don't even know how many beds/baths are in the house?

Accurate appraisals can't be provided by a computer.
I didn't say they were accurate at all. I said they were 40k low in my neighborhood. But as I pointed out there's a way to update your home stats if it looks off or they have bad info. Don't put words in my mouth.
7/24/2017 2:56:11 PM EDT
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No Automated Valuation Model (AVM) is completely reliable or accurate in every location.

Freddie Mac's Home Value Explorer (HVE) is widely regarded as the best.  Zillow's is mediocre.  It would not be accurate to say it's always wrong, but you should always take its estimates with a bunch of salt

Your best bet is to talk to a realtor who is familiar with the area, and zero in on comparable sales (if there are any.)
7/24/2017 3:01:46 PM EDT
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Mine is about 100k lower than what I'd ask. Their zestimate is 594, I'd probably list at 700.
7/24/2017 3:03:37 PM EDT
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Are they serious?

I know Seattles house pricing is skyrocketing, but according to them, my house has increased around 4.5 times the price I paid in 3 years?  

Redfin and Realtor both have similar more reasonable values of about double the purchase price...

What is the benefit of overvaluing homes to their company?
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I know a guy who is a Realtor.  He Says Zillow is off the reservation.
7/24/2017 3:07:29 PM EDT
[#46]
... spot on in my area, but we're going through another real estate boom now
7/24/2017 3:08:05 PM EDT
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Zillow showed my house as having appreciated 50% since I bought it 6 years ago.  It was dead on.
7/24/2017 3:08:31 PM EDT
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I paid $120,000 for my house in 2011.  Zillow is saying $197,000.  I think its a bit too much but a real estate agent is coming over on Wedesday to discuss putting it on the market so I'll see what she says.

My city is the 3rd fastest growing in the nation so maybe.
7/24/2017 3:09:19 PM EDT
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I know a guy who is a Realtor.  He Says Zillow is off the reservation.
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Are they serious?

I know Seattles house pricing is skyrocketing, but according to them, my house has increased around 4.5 times the price I paid in 3 years?  

Redfin and Realtor both have similar more reasonable values of about double the purchase price...

What is the benefit of overvaluing homes to their company?


I know a guy who is a Realtor.  He Says Zillow is off the reservation.
He would be wrong and right.  It depends on the area.  In large metro areas with similar houses (like the entire Phoenix area) its pretty dead on.  It seems to be way off when houses are much more spread out and unique.
7/24/2017 3:13:51 PM EDT
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Are they serious?

I know Seattles house pricing is skyrocketing, but according to them, my house has increased around 4.5 times the price I paid in 3 years?  

Redfin and Realtor both have similar more reasonable values of about double the purchase price...

What is the benefit of overvaluing homes to their company?
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Yeah, I wondered the same thing. They say mine is about $230,000 we paid 159,000 three years ago in Mount Vernon.
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