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7/21/2017 8:01:00 AM EDT
I figured with all the negative crap posted lately on LEOs it was time to post some positive stories.

This was a shooting that involved an Officer that rolled up on scene and saved the life of the victim that had been shot. Not by police either.

Story of LEO saving shooting victims life
7/21/2017 1:42:57 PM EDT
[#1]
It's becoming more common with cops carrying tourniquets.  Our EMS carries the same tourniquet we use.  If we use ours on a patient, they will give us a new one from the rig.
7/21/2017 1:59:36 PM EDT
[#2]
What kind of medical training do they give LEOs and do you carry any kind of med packs. I made a kick ass medical pack for my brother to carry in his patrol car.

It has every thing that we carry on a Paramedic Fire Engine except narcotics and advance airway devices. It about the size of a small suit case.
7/21/2017 4:32:31 PM EDT
[#3]
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What kind of medical training do they give LEOs and do you carry any kind of med packs. I made a kick ass medical pack for my brother to carry in his patrol car.

It has every thing that we carry on a Paramedic Fire Engine except narcotics and advance airway devices. It about the size of a small suit case.
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In total, my agency issues:

Every vehicle (take home cars btw) gets:
A generic first aid kit (band aids, gauze, 4x4's, eye bandage/cover, bottles of saline for flushing, crèmes for burns, EMS shears, plastic tweezers).  Any items used can be replaced with stocks in central supply.
Ambu bag with mask (we swap these out with EMS for new ones if used)
We get protective gloves issued to each officer, by the box, from central supply.

Each patrol officer and SRO are issued an AED as part of their individual equipment issue and it stays with them until they transfer to a different assignment (such as investigations).  AED pads are kept on patient and EMS uses our pads and replaces them from the rig.

Each Patrol officer is issued Narcan.  Patrol Supervisors are issued extra Narcan to issue out in the event that a patrol officer uses his and it can be replaced immediately by the supervisor.  Reports document the use of Narcan and supervisors have to submit documentation of destruction/expenditure of property forms to central supply when used, and they receive additional Narcan.  

Each sworn officer is issued their own gunshot wound kit.  Tourniquet, combat bandage, chest seal and quickclot bandage in a red nylon case.  
I took mine and added a couple more Israeli Combat Bandages and some 4x4's (multiple wounds or entry and exit suck yo), put it in a Blackhawk molle (2 piece pouch, the pouch is mated with a molle base velcro rip off panel) medical pouch that is attached to my passenger side sun visor.  I can access it seated if in a wreck or shot while in the car and its pretty easy to tell someone else where it is if I need them to get it.  Also stays out of direct contact with sunlight that way.  

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Training:
All officers receive First responder certification in the academy.  In service training, we train monthly through out the year.   It's not unusual to have the equivalent of 2 training days a year devoted to medical training or protocols.

We recert on CPR/AED yearly through AHA.  That's half a day.

The other half of that day is EMS training us on whatever topics/procedures or trends we see or they see.  This is really good because we get to address training on incident based review of what we need or what is a growing problem.  For example when spice/bath salts hit, we had issues with both cardiac and excited delirium.  We trained on that and developed a LE/EMS protocol for responding to these issues.  We have recently done the same with Heroin due to OD's.  We had a class a couple years ago on traumatic injuries as it relates to us and how to initially deal with injuries if shot in the car or wrecked and trapped in the vehicle (hence keep medical kit where you can access it.)

Additional training on emergency protocols, for example Air Ambulance operations and setting up an LZ and being an LZO.  EMS and Fire actually prefer that we handle LZ/LZO operations.  

As to gunshot wound kits, when we initially were issued them, we received training on them at the range before annual qualification.  EMS had trainers there and first thing we did was get issued the kits, break them open and train on the contents.  During active shooter training, we get to use tourniquets again.  Get hit in the arm or leg and the instructors can call out for tourniquet use and you will have to apply one.  The last couple of years EMS and Fire Rescue has also participated and we have had a portion of training on dealing with the mass casualty side once the scene is secured or the shooter is contained.  Triaging, we help stabilize the non critical patients, freeing them up to work on the criticals and getting use to using the soft litters to move patients.
7/21/2017 7:15:41 PM EDT
[#4]
That's some pretty good training. Some of our medics rotate out with SERT if they choose to go through training.  But most don't, they choose to do other things plus alot do not like being on call.
7/21/2017 9:17:10 PM EDT
[#5]
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That's some pretty good training. Some of our medics rotate out with SERT if they choose to go through training.  But most don't, they choose to do other things plus alot do not like being on call.
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We have EMT's and paramedics that train with our SWAT guys and can be called out if needed based on the incident.  From what I've heard, they have come in handy on a few occasions when guys had heat issues and some ankle/knee/shoulder injuries during training.
7/22/2017 9:20:06 AM EDT
[#6]
I find it amazing when something positive is posted about a LEO nada one person posts to it. But if it something negative. Buddy they get slammed. I'll bash first responders that screws up I don't care who it is. But this is ridiculous.

Not all cops are bad. There are alot more good guys than bad guys. But these dumb ass bad ones hurt the image of the good ones and that rough.

There have been laws since the time God gave Moses the ten Commandments. There has to be laws in order for there to be a civilization and for it to exist in an orderly fashion. Other wise there would be chaos.

Ever since there have been laws unfortunately there have been people that abused those laws when given the power of enforcing them. This happens but we have gotten better at catching them and getting rid of the bad ones.

But the good LEOs must lead by example also and help get rid of the bad cops. Because it is their livelihood, their image and their honor that these bad cops effect.

Most people when they speak out are neither as I've heard some call them boot lickers or cop haters. Most people look and see and just have an opinion and ask why and when they do they get labeled.

It should not be that way. When people question the actions of these bad people that tarnish the reputation of the real LEOs that truely represent the honor the the uniform they wear. That's all I've got to say.
7/22/2017 9:22:18 AM EDT
[#7]
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I find it amazing when something positive is posted about a LEO nada one person posts to it.
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@Aimless
7/22/2017 9:25:15 AM EDT
[#8]
Was the victim's life worth saving?    Cop did good and is a credit to his community and department.  There are a lot of good things cops do daily that go unnoticed except by the party/persons the cop helps.  Of course, these actions are not sensational, do not serve the race baiting agenda and sell advertising dollars.
7/22/2017 9:26:42 AM EDT
[#9]
Training is ESSENTIAL
7/22/2017 9:30:19 AM EDT
[#10]
Was it actually a femoral bleed?

Good first aid has come a long way thank God.
7/22/2017 1:01:16 PM EDT
[#11]
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Was it actually a femoral bleed?

Good first aid has come a long way thank God.
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Our EMS has advised us that if we see the obvious signs of blood spurting or pouring out of an extremity, apply the tourniquet.  However, if we make the observation of "that's a lot of blood" coming out, pooling or trailed at the scene, apply the tourniquet.  They can manage the application of the tourniquet until the patient is brought to the ER.
7/22/2017 1:02:31 PM EDT
[#12]
If Travis Haley and Nicholas Cage had a child, I'd imagine that it'd look something like that cop.
7/22/2017 4:11:04 PM EDT
[#13]
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Was it actually a femoral bleed?

Good first aid has come a long way thank God.
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According to the article the ER doctor said it was and if the restricting band had not been applied the patient would have bled to death.
7/22/2017 4:14:11 PM EDT
[#14]
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In total, my agency issues:

Every vehicle (take home cars btw) gets:
A generic first aid kit (band aids, gauze, 4x4's, eye bandage/cover, bottles of saline for flushing, crèmes for burns, EMS shears, plastic tweezers).  Any items used can be replaced with stocks in central supply.
Ambu bag with mask (we swap these out with EMS for new ones if used)
We get protective gloves issued to each officer, by the box, from central supply.

Each patrol officer and SRO are issued an AED as part of their individual equipment issue and it stays with them until they transfer to a different assignment (such as investigations).  AED pads are kept on patient and EMS uses our pads and replaces them from the rig.

Each Patrol officer is issued Narcan.  Patrol Supervisors are issued extra Narcan to issue out in the event that a patrol officer uses his and it can be replaced immediately by the supervisor.  Reports document the use of Narcan and supervisors have to submit documentation of destruction/expenditure of property forms to central supply when used, and they receive additional Narcan.  

Each sworn officer is issued their own gunshot wound kit.  Tourniquet, combat bandage, chest seal and quickclot bandage in a red nylon case.  
I took mine and added a couple more Israeli Combat Bandages and some 4x4's (multiple wounds or entry and exit suck yo), put it in a Blackhawk molle (2 piece pouch, the pouch is mated with a molle base velcro rip off panel) medical pouch that is attached to my passenger side sun visor.  I can access it seated if in a wreck or shot while in the car and its pretty easy to tell someone else where it is if I need them to get it.  Also stays out of direct contact with sunlight that way.  

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/161929/gswk-259609.JPG

Training:
All officers receive First responder certification in the academy.  In service training, we train monthly through out the year.   It's not unusual to have the equivalent of 2 training days a year devoted to medical training or protocols.

We recert on CPR/AED yearly through AHA.  That's half a day.

The other half of that day is EMS training us on whatever topics/procedures or trends we see or they see.  This is really good because we get to address training on incident based review of what we need or what is a growing problem.  For example when spice/bath salts hit, we had issues with both cardiac and excited delirium.  We trained on that and developed a LE/EMS protocol for responding to these issues.  We have recently done the same with Heroin due to OD's.  We had a class a couple years ago on traumatic injuries as it relates to us and how to initially deal with injuries if shot in the car or wrecked and trapped in the vehicle (hence keep medical kit where you can access it.)

Additional training on emergency protocols, for example Air Ambulance operations and setting up an LZ and being an LZO.  EMS and Fire actually prefer that we handle LZ/LZO operations.  

As to gunshot wound kits, when we initially were issued them, we received training on them at the range before annual qualification.  EMS had trainers there and first thing we did was get issued the kits, break them open and train on the contents.  During active shooter training, we get to use tourniquets again.  Get hit in the arm or leg and the instructors can call out for tourniquet use and you will have to apply one.  The last couple of years EMS and Fire Rescue has also participated and we have had a portion of training on dealing with the mass casualty side once the scene is secured or the shooter is contained.  Triaging, we help stabilize the non critical patients, freeing them up to work on the criticals and getting use to using the soft litters to move patients.
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What kind of medical training do they give LEOs and do you carry any kind of med packs. I made a kick ass medical pack for my brother to carry in his patrol car.

It has every thing that we carry on a Paramedic Fire Engine except narcotics and advance airway devices. It about the size of a small suit case.
In total, my agency issues:

Every vehicle (take home cars btw) gets:
A generic first aid kit (band aids, gauze, 4x4's, eye bandage/cover, bottles of saline for flushing, crèmes for burns, EMS shears, plastic tweezers).  Any items used can be replaced with stocks in central supply.
Ambu bag with mask (we swap these out with EMS for new ones if used)
We get protective gloves issued to each officer, by the box, from central supply.

Each patrol officer and SRO are issued an AED as part of their individual equipment issue and it stays with them until they transfer to a different assignment (such as investigations).  AED pads are kept on patient and EMS uses our pads and replaces them from the rig.

Each Patrol officer is issued Narcan.  Patrol Supervisors are issued extra Narcan to issue out in the event that a patrol officer uses his and it can be replaced immediately by the supervisor.  Reports document the use of Narcan and supervisors have to submit documentation of destruction/expenditure of property forms to central supply when used, and they receive additional Narcan.  

Each sworn officer is issued their own gunshot wound kit.  Tourniquet, combat bandage, chest seal and quickclot bandage in a red nylon case.  
I took mine and added a couple more Israeli Combat Bandages and some 4x4's (multiple wounds or entry and exit suck yo), put it in a Blackhawk molle (2 piece pouch, the pouch is mated with a molle base velcro rip off panel) medical pouch that is attached to my passenger side sun visor.  I can access it seated if in a wreck or shot while in the car and its pretty easy to tell someone else where it is if I need them to get it.  Also stays out of direct contact with sunlight that way.  

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/161929/gswk-259609.JPG

Training:
All officers receive First responder certification in the academy.  In service training, we train monthly through out the year.   It's not unusual to have the equivalent of 2 training days a year devoted to medical training or protocols.

We recert on CPR/AED yearly through AHA.  That's half a day.

The other half of that day is EMS training us on whatever topics/procedures or trends we see or they see.  This is really good because we get to address training on incident based review of what we need or what is a growing problem.  For example when spice/bath salts hit, we had issues with both cardiac and excited delirium.  We trained on that and developed a LE/EMS protocol for responding to these issues.  We have recently done the same with Heroin due to OD's.  We had a class a couple years ago on traumatic injuries as it relates to us and how to initially deal with injuries if shot in the car or wrecked and trapped in the vehicle (hence keep medical kit where you can access it.)

Additional training on emergency protocols, for example Air Ambulance operations and setting up an LZ and being an LZO.  EMS and Fire actually prefer that we handle LZ/LZO operations.  

As to gunshot wound kits, when we initially were issued them, we received training on them at the range before annual qualification.  EMS had trainers there and first thing we did was get issued the kits, break them open and train on the contents.  During active shooter training, we get to use tourniquets again.  Get hit in the arm or leg and the instructors can call out for tourniquet use and you will have to apply one.  The last couple of years EMS and Fire Rescue has also participated and we have had a portion of training on dealing with the mass casualty side once the scene is secured or the shooter is contained.  Triaging, we help stabilize the non critical patients, freeing them up to work on the criticals and getting use to using the soft litters to move patients.
Holy shit!

Your department hooks you guys up!
7/22/2017 4:15:31 PM EDT
[#15]
He did his jerb, fuck ya!

7/22/2017 4:16:56 PM EDT
[#16]
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I find it amazing when something positive is posted about a LEO nada one person posts to it. But if it something negative. Buddy they get slammed. I'll bash first responders that screws up I don't care who it is. But this is ridiculous.

Not all cops are bad. There are alot more good guys than bad guys. But these dumb ass bad ones hurt the image of the good ones and that rough.

There have been laws since the time God gave Moses the ten Commandments. There has to be laws in order for there to be a civilization and for it to exist in an orderly fashion. Other wise there would be chaos.

Ever since there have been laws unfortunately there have been people that abused those laws when given the power of enforcing them. This happens but we have gotten better at catching them and getting rid of the bad ones.

But the good LEOs must lead by example also and help get rid of the bad cops. Because it is their livelihood, their image and their honor that these bad cops effect.

Most people when they speak out are neither as I've heard some call them boot lickers or cop haters. Most people look and see and just have an opinion and ask why and when they do they get labeled.

It should not be that way. When people question the actions of these bad people that tarnish the reputation of the real LEOs that truely represent the honor the the uniform they wear. That's all I've got to say.
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Good post.  
And I agree.


But what irks me the most is the flippant attitude towards use of deadly force.  

I believe "oh well" is the phrase.  
Not exactly diplomatic.
7/22/2017 4:17:41 PM EDT
[#17]
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In total, my agency issues:

Every vehicle (take home cars btw) gets:
A generic first aid kit (band aids, gauze, 4x4's, eye bandage/cover, bottles of saline for flushing, crèmes for burns, EMS shears, plastic tweezers).  Any items used can be replaced with stocks in central supply.
Ambu bag with mask (we swap these out with EMS for new ones if used)
We get protective gloves issued to each officer, by the box, from central supply.

Each patrol officer and SRO are issued an AED as part of their individual equipment issue and it stays with them until they transfer to a different assignment (such as investigations).  AED pads are kept on patient and EMS uses our pads and replaces them from the rig.

Each Patrol officer is issued Narcan.  Patrol Supervisors are issued extra Narcan to issue out in the event that a patrol officer uses his and it can be replaced immediately by the supervisor.  Reports document the use of Narcan and supervisors have to submit documentation of destruction/expenditure of property forms to central supply when used, and they receive additional Narcan.  

Each sworn officer is issued their own gunshot wound kit.  Tourniquet, combat bandage, chest seal and quickclot bandage in a red nylon case.  
I took mine and added a couple more Israeli Combat Bandages and some 4x4's (multiple wounds or entry and exit suck yo), put it in a Blackhawk molle (2 piece pouch, the pouch is mated with a molle base velcro rip off panel) medical pouch that is attached to my passenger side sun visor.  I can access it seated if in a wreck or shot while in the car and its pretty easy to tell someone else where it is if I need them to get it.  Also stays out of direct contact with sunlight that way.  

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/161929/gswk-259609.JPG

Training:
All officers receive First responder certification in the academy.  In service training, we train monthly through out the year.   It's not unusual to have the equivalent of 2 training days a year devoted to medical training or protocols.

We recert on CPR/AED yearly through AHA.  That's half a day.

The other half of that day is EMS training us on whatever topics/procedures or trends we see or they see.  This is really good because we get to address training on incident based review of what we need or what is a growing problem.  For example when spice/bath salts hit, we had issues with both cardiac and excited delirium.  We trained on that and developed a LE/EMS protocol for responding to these issues.  We have recently done the same with Heroin due to OD's.  We had a class a couple years ago on traumatic injuries as it relates to us and how to initially deal with injuries if shot in the car or wrecked and trapped in the vehicle (hence keep medical kit where you can access it.)

Additional training on emergency protocols, for example Air Ambulance operations and setting up an LZ and being an LZO.  EMS and Fire actually prefer that we handle LZ/LZO operations.  

As to gunshot wound kits, when we initially were issued them, we received training on them at the range before annual qualification.  EMS had trainers there and first thing we did was get issued the kits, break them open and train on the contents.  During active shooter training, we get to use tourniquets again.  Get hit in the arm or leg and the instructors can call out for tourniquet use and you will have to apply one.  The last couple of years EMS and Fire Rescue has also participated and we have had a portion of training on dealing with the mass casualty side once the scene is secured or the shooter is contained.  Triaging, we help stabilize the non critical patients, freeing them up to work on the criticals and getting use to using the soft litters to move patients.
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Very impressive.
7/22/2017 4:18:21 PM EDT
[#18]
People post negative crap about police..... you don't say?
7/22/2017 4:19:32 PM EDT
[#19]
In before the anti cop turds claim it is just his job.
7/22/2017 4:27:51 PM EDT
[#20]
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Holy shit!

Your department hooks you guys up!
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Not really if you realize it's been done in increments.  CPR has always been a requirement.  AED's came in about 15 years ago.  Ambu bags about a year later (replacing pocket masks).  First aid kits started as generic metal box kits and due to being accredited, we switched to restocking them (old kits, you were out until you got a new kit).  Narcan happened this year because we are seeing a spike in Heroin and fentanyl.  LZ/LZO happened because we got an air ambulance capability 24/7.  Personal GSWK's came about because it was obvious they were making a difference in real world saves when issued.   I'm glad we are where we are gear wise, but we weren't a trend setter by any means.
7/22/2017 5:08:29 PM EDT
[#21]
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According to the article the ER doctor said it was and if the restricting band had not been applied the patient would have bled to death.
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Thanks, missed that part. I just saw the officer say it was.
7/22/2017 9:18:31 PM EDT
[#22]
Nicely done Officer Emary
7/23/2017 5:33:16 AM EDT
[#23]
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In before the anti cop turds claim it is just his job.
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No you're not. Look up.
7/23/2017 5:46:48 AM EDT
[#24]
Awesome job by the officer to save the guys life...