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7/10/2017 2:24:21 PM EDT
Windows 10 has decided to try to lock up my computer until I "Agree" (...under duress) to their terms and accept the update.

Is there anyway to turn this damn update off?

Should I turn it off?

It seems like every "update" that Windows sends me takes away more of my control and turns my BUSINESS computers into constant advertisements for whatever snake-oil they're paid to pitch.

How to I turn this thing off?
7/10/2017 2:27:38 PM EDT
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This most recent update gives you more control over your privacy settings. Generally, it's a bad idea to turn off Windows updates due to security issues.
7/10/2017 2:33:13 PM EDT
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I actually like Windows 10 I have been running since first release and now running the 1703 update.  It is a better performing OS and more stable OS.  I have been a die hard Mac user for years and hated Vista, 7 was ok and 8 was terrible but 10 is actually a really good OS.
7/10/2017 2:37:04 PM EDT
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Updates most of the time fix security holes.  This is very important with the level of cyber crime we have today.
7/10/2017 2:38:54 PM EDT
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Let me guess, business computers running W10 Home edition

I think anyone who turns off updates should be denied any technical support and should be blocked from accessing the internet.  It's like not vaccinating your kids.

ETA, I've never even seen an advertisement.  I have one little box that randomly shows suggested apps, which I can turn off if I want.  You act like there are banners running across your screen to download and install stuff.  If there is, then your computer already has AIDS.  That or you didn't even do a clean install and you are using whatever prepackaged BS came from your PC manufacturer.
7/10/2017 2:39:47 PM EDT
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edit: Thought it was an upgrade thread.
7/10/2017 2:41:06 PM EDT
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7/10/2017 2:47:40 PM EDT
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If only there were a way to standardize the way a group of computers are configured in keeping with some sort of central policy. Seems like that might be a really handy thing for a business.
7/10/2017 2:58:29 PM EDT
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I have noticed since the last update that when I alt+control+delete, I can only see Mozilla or whatever game I am running-which irritates me, because Windows has about 48 things running in the background I used to be able to manually turn off to speed my computer up.....
7/10/2017 3:04:42 PM EDT
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Might want to explore that "More Details" button.
7/10/2017 3:07:03 PM EDT
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You either need an IT department, or you need to outsource it to somebody who can do managed services for you. 

Like you said, it's your BUSINESS computers we're talking about. Focus on your business, and let people who do this stuff for a living take that headache away from you. 
7/10/2017 3:10:23 PM EDT
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I finallly dumped windows10 and put Linux mint on. Can't be happier
7/10/2017 4:10:58 PM EDT
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windows 10 is garbage
7/10/2017 4:14:45 PM EDT
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I guess when you get ransomware on all your BUSINESS computers and your company goes under we'll know who to blame.
7/10/2017 4:15:05 PM EDT
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edit: Thought it was an upgrade thread.
It wasn't me whining about the upgrade, it was the Rick and Morty Win 10 gif.
7/10/2017 4:38:58 PM EDT
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Computers don't get viruses, users do. No patch in the world can fix stupid users that go to crap web sites, open unknown email attachments, etc.
Most AV software is a joke, it asks the user to decide if suspicious file is a virus.  The user doesn't know, they thought the software would know.
7/10/2017 5:29:28 PM EDT
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7/10/2017 5:52:10 PM EDT
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I just reinstalled windows 7, and bought a second copy for my next build.
I just want an OS, not a fucking intimate, submissive relationship with Bill Gates.
7/10/2017 6:44:25 PM EDT
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Computers don't get viruses, users do. No patch in the world can fix stupid users that go to crap web sites, open unknown email attachments, etc.
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actually if you seen the cryptolocker stuff that just came out earlier this year it actually spreads over the network threw security vulnerability that the NSA found but never turned over.  it takes no action from you to get taken over.

Playing with WannaCry Ransomware
7/10/2017 6:49:26 PM EDT
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I fall into the "get a Mac" camp, but that said, I still have a Windows machine mostly used for gaming and the occasional bit of software that just doesn't seem to get on well with Windows on a VM.

I spent time going through all the settings (and no, they are not all in one place) turning off all the "helpful" stuff M$ included in Win10 (Pro).
That, plus using pi-hole, keeps it pretty quiet.
7/10/2017 6:51:03 PM EDT
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Go to services and turn of the Windows update service. That will kill it, if it is bugging you that much.
7/10/2017 6:51:17 PM EDT
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https://www.linuxmint.com/
7/10/2017 6:56:55 PM EDT
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actually if you seen the cryptolocker stuff that just came out earlier this year it actually spreads over the network threw security vulnerability that the NSA found but never turned over.  it takes no action from you to get taken over.

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Wrong. Microsoft released a patch for that vulnerability three months before WannaCry.
7/10/2017 7:00:13 PM EDT
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That's fuckin fantastic if all you want to do is browse the web, write shell scripts, and pretend you know how to use GIMP
7/10/2017 7:03:50 PM EDT
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I just reinstalled windows 7, and bought a second copy for my next build.
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bought a macbook pro 3 years ago, never going back
7/10/2017 7:04:51 PM EDT
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That's fuckin fantastic if all you want to do is browse the web, write shell scripts, and pretend you know how to use GIMP
Internet and photos probably covers the needs of 95% of the population. 
7/10/2017 7:06:44 PM EDT
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Linux is still garbage for 95% of the population.
7/10/2017 7:08:37 PM EDT
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Internet and photos probably covers the needs of 95% of the population. 
Linux is still garbage for 95% of the population.
You could give most of those people a basic Linux distro and they’d never even know it wasn’t windows. Most people have no idea about computers and as long as they can browse the internet and send emails and look at pictures they really don’t care. 
7/10/2017 7:12:41 PM EDT
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Assuming a best-case scenario where they never need to troubleshoot an OS update or a broken driver, or decide they want to play the game everyone's been talking about.

Look, I use Windows at home because I game.. if I didn't I'd be all MacOS. People can use whatever you want, I don't give a crap about fighting any OS holy war, but it's folly to claim that Linux is easier for an average user in any non-standard scenario
7/10/2017 7:18:10 PM EDT
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Assuming a best-case scenario where they never need to troubleshoot an OS update or a broken driver, or decide they want to play the game everyone's been talking about.

Look, I use Windows at home because I game.. if I didn't I'd be all MacOS. People can use whatever you want, I don't give a crap about fighting any OS holy war, but it's folly to claim that Linux is easier for an average user in any non-standard scenario
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You could give most of those people a basic Linux distro and they’d never even know it wasn’t windows. Most people have no idea about computers and as long as they can browse the internet and send emails and look at pictures they really don’t care. 
Assuming a best-case scenario where they never need to troubleshoot an OS update or a broken driver, or decide they want to play the game everyone's been talking about.

Look, I use Windows at home because I game.. if I didn't I'd be all MacOS. People can use whatever you want, I don't give a crap about fighting any OS holy war, but it's folly to claim that Linux is easier for an average user in any non-standard scenario
I never claimed it was easier, just that it meets the very simple needs of most people. As for broken drivers, do you have experience with Linux and drivers? Unless you’re using some ancient hardware or a fancy GPU you really don’t need to worry about drivers at all. 

I’m not some Linux fanboy either, but I have enough experience with it that most people could use it on a daily basis with no trouble. 
7/10/2017 7:22:24 PM EDT
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Yes, until they want to change something significant, or something goes wrong, which is my whole point.  

It's all a moot point in reference to OP's post, to which I reply, take your goddamn updates and don't be a fool.  Defer Feature Upgrades if you like, but don't bypass security or cumulative updates.
7/10/2017 7:28:04 PM EDT
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Yes, until they want to change something significant, or something goes wrong, which is my whole point.  

It's all a moot point in reference to OP's post, to which I reply, take your goddamn updates and don't be a fool.  Defer Feature Upgrades if you like, but don't bypass security or cumulative updates.
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Unlike Windows where significant changes or something going wrong is easily remedied by the general population?
7/10/2017 7:34:09 PM EDT
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Absolutely.  You can get paid support, you can take it to Geek Squad, hell your average teenage neighbor kid can probably fix it.  

For as much as people bitch about Windows Update (and a lot of it is valid, especially uncommanded reboots),  I have never had it pooch an entire machine as surely as a simple 'apt-get upgrade' has done for me.
7/10/2017 7:37:55 PM EDT
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actually if you seen the cryptolocker stuff that just came out earlier this year it actually spreads over the network threw security vulnerability that the NSA found but never turned over.  it takes no action from you to get taken over.

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30 years of IT and ever virus a user got was from their action, the same 5% of users get 99% of the viruses.  This is why I only buy PCs with dual HD and save weekly system image.
7/10/2017 7:39:19 PM EDT
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Go to services and turn of the Windows update service. That will kill it, if it is bugging you that much.
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It will turn it's self back on in a few days or when you reboot.
7/10/2017 7:40:44 PM EDT
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Yeah, no.  I have machines that have been running 24/7 for over a year with WU svc disabled and it hasn't changed.  Everything from 8.1 up through RS3 preview.
7/10/2017 8:00:50 PM EDT
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Windows 10 on a new computer in three months has crashed 4 times for me.  

Blue screen shit.  Had to reload from a mirror each time.  A true piece of shit. 

The Lenovo I am using at this moment has been rock solid with Win 7 and it is around two or three years old now.  

I don't get Win10 update messages any more. 
7/10/2017 8:08:45 PM EDT
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Windows 10 on a new computer in three months has crashed 4 times for me.  

Blue screen shit.  Had to reload from a mirror each time.  A true piece of shit. 

The Lenovo I am using at this moment has been rock solid with Win 7 and it is around two or three years old now.  

I don't get Win10 update messages any more. 
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Repeated blue screens generally indicate a hardware issue. You can't blame the OS for bad memory.
7/10/2017 8:09:42 PM EDT
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Windows 10 on a new computer in three months has crashed 4 times for me.  

Blue screen shit.  Had to reload from a mirror each time.  A true piece of shit. 

The Lenovo I am using at this moment has been rock solid with Win 7 and it is around two or three years old now.  

I don't get Win10 update messages any more. 
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Ever try troubleshooting the error codes?  Just because Win7 works and Win10 crashes doesn't mean Win7 is better, it might just be masking an underlying problem like bad RAM.
7/10/2017 8:15:33 PM EDT
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Wrong. Microsoft released a patch for that vulnerability three months before WannaCry.
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ether way i was just proving a point that computers can get a virus without and user interaction.
7/10/2017 8:17:11 PM EDT
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Let me guess, business computers running W10 Home edition...
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How presumptuous of you...No, not W10 Home. W10 Pro 64, Version 1607, Build 14393.1358

Do you start out by making ass-umptions about every total stranger you meet?
Have you sought professional counseling to help you manage your problem?
7/10/2017 8:21:56 PM EDT
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How presumptuous of you...No, not W10 Home. W10 Pro 64, Version 1607, Build 14393.1358

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Traditionally one asks strangers on a forum for solutions to problems before seeking professional help.
7/10/2017 8:31:41 PM EDT
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Resistance is futile, you will assimilate.
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Absolutely.  You can get paid support, you can take it to Geek Squad, hell your average teenage neighbor kid can probably fix it.  

For as much as people bitch about Windows Update (and a lot of it is valid, especially uncommanded reboots),  I have never had it pooch an entire machine as surely as a simple 'apt-get upgrade' has done for me.
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On what distro? Stuff intentionally basic and stable like Mint or Ubuntu probably isn't more likely to die on you than Windows. If you're using Arch (I know, apt-get wouldn't be Arch)  and you've got your machine jam-packed with random shit from the AUR then I can see the point that upgrading is a roll of the dice.