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7/4/2017 10:37:41 PM EDT
The only one I've ever actually played was Civilization Revolution, and I really like it until you get into the modern era, then it loses a lot of appeal for whatever reason.

I have several RTS games and they are meh to me. I'm looking primarily for something on Xbox One, but something that will run on Mac would be ok too.

Suggestions?
7/4/2017 10:43:44 PM EDT
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The new Battletech will be nice.  Although I have some serious reservations about certain points of the Beta.
7/4/2017 10:49:48 PM EDT
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I came here to post this. Looks like the best turn based tactical level game I've seen in a long while, although the full game will have a strategic component as well. I'm also a sucker for the Battletech universe, though, but check it out on YouTube.
7/4/2017 10:54:38 PM EDT
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Is it anything like the old Mechcommander games. As I remember, those were pretty fun.

Of course I still play the original Battletech: Crescenthawk's Inception for MS-DOS on DosBox. 
7/4/2017 10:54:59 PM EDT
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I had fun with Galactic Civilization III and more fun/rage with Faster Than Light

XCOM is supposed to be good.
7/4/2017 11:01:36 PM EDT
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War game Airlandbattle has TBS and RTS elements
TBS large scale, RTS small scale
7/4/2017 11:06:09 PM EDT
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I had fun with Galactic Civilization III and more fun/rage with Faster Than Light

XCOM is supposed to be good.
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I don't know anything about the new XCOM games, but the original was the shit back in the day, I still play it.
7/4/2017 11:08:50 PM EDT
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Turn based has no place in a world of massive online, GHz processors, GPUs, and AI.
7/4/2017 11:10:57 PM EDT
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Civ VI is nice, and a fairly easy learning curve.  
7/4/2017 11:16:26 PM EDT
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I have played civ IV for sometime and I like it.  Sim city is ok but no combat. I liked Colonization but not sure it's avaviable for the platform you named.
7/4/2017 11:18:58 PM EDT
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Is it anything like the old Mechcommander games. As I remember, those were pretty fun.

Of course I still play the original Battletech: Crescenthawk's Inception for MS-DOS on DosBox. 
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There's a scenario-based campaign coming.  Right now--it's just lance vs. lance up to a max of 25M C-Bills.

I'm playing right now.  I'm set up with a Panther light 'mech with a pilot who specializes in "Sensor Lock" and I've got three Catapults with dual LRM15s.  Gonna be some fun-assed, LRM action!
(top of the screen with the colored arrows indicate turns via initiative roll--allowing the winner to move last)

7/4/2017 11:21:11 PM EDT
[#11]
70% off shogun 2

it's a total war title, which means that it's turn based strategy, real time tactics.  runs fine on mac.  even as old as the game is, there are still people who play h2h battles online.
7/4/2017 11:22:09 PM EDT
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70% off shogun 2

it's a total war title, which means that it's turn based strategy, real time tactics.  runs fine on mac.  even as old as the game is, there are still people who play h2h battles online.
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Rome 2 would be a better option IMHO.  The battles are more intuitive.  
7/4/2017 11:23:28 PM EDT
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Panzer corps
Xcom is cool also
7/4/2017 11:25:31 PM EDT
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Used to play the hell out of "Empire, Wargame of the Century."
7/4/2017 11:25:48 PM EDT
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I would love to see another command and conquer, I had a massive tank force

7/4/2017 11:27:48 PM EDT
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Xcom's computer aiming is a cheating bitch.  Much like the Chess game in "The Thing."
7/4/2017 11:28:16 PM EDT
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Here's one that's a little bit different.. Valkyria Chronicles
7/4/2017 11:35:32 PM EDT
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Does it get more old-school than Panzer General
7/4/2017 11:37:01 PM EDT
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Anything by Gary Grigsby.

I hear the new version of Operation Art of War is good.
7/4/2017 11:39:10 PM EDT
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There's a scenario-based campaign coming.  Right now--it's just lance vs. lance up to a max of 25M C-Bills.

I'm playing right now.  I'm set up with a Panther light 'mech with a pilot who specializes in "Sensor Lock" and I've got three Catapults with dual LRM15s.  Gonna be some fun-assed, LRM action!
(top of the screen with the colored arrows indicate turns via initiative roll--allowing the winner to move last)

http://i.imgur.com/yauN7b2.jpg
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That looks awesome! Hopefully they flesh it out into a full game like they did with Shadowrun.
I'm a huge Battletech nerd. 
7/4/2017 11:48:43 PM EDT
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Xcom is good
Xenonaughts is a decent copy with some tweaks.
Xcom 2 and Enemy Uknown are good after a couple tweaks from the nexus.
Blood Bowl if monster football action sounds good.
Jagged Alliance back in Action
Silent Storm for some WW2 era action.
Total War: Warhammer is turning out to be more challenging than I thought. Turn base strat level then rts Army level clashes. But you can pause to issue orders so it doesn't turn into quite a click fest.
Fallout 1, 2, and Tactics.
7/4/2017 11:51:08 PM EDT
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Is it anything like the old Mechcommander games. As I remember, those were pretty fun.

Of course I still play the original Battletech: Crescenthawk's Inception for MS-DOS on DosBox. 
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I loved Inception but got pissed it was pretty much impossible to get a mech without engine damage. And no WHM-6R. That was the mini that got me into the Battletech Universe.
7/4/2017 11:51:28 PM EDT
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The problem with saying you want an RTS game is it doesnt cover whether you mean individual level RTS, squad level or battlefield level. 

Lots of good suggestions above. I'll add (And some have been said)
XCOM
Panzer General
Wasteland (1 or 2) are really good
Fallout 1&2 are amazing
Shadowrun series is also really, really good. 
Panzer Corps, think updated Panzer General
Kings Bounty series
Heros of Might and Magic series
Civ X (X as in pick a number, not 10)
7/4/2017 11:58:05 PM EDT
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Rome 2 would be a better option IMHO.  The battles are more intuitive.  
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haven't played rome, so i'll take your word for it.  one of my frustrations with S2 is that there was little in the way of working your way up from small armies to large ones.  i wanted more tutorials with only a few blocks of infantry/cav, so i could get the hang of combined maneuvering and managing time.  i mean, the 3rd combat tutorial has something like 30 units of 8-10 different types, divided into 3 formations.  and the historical battles are downright enormous (not to mention tactically complicated).

there's a lot to chew, but it's a great deal if someone is willing to deal with the complications.

edit: here is the motherlode: rome/rome 2 medieval 2, viking, shogun/S2, empire (british), and napoleon bundled for $30.

OP, this would fill your free time for a couple of years.
7/5/2017 12:16:48 AM EDT
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Jagged Alliance 2
7/5/2017 12:27:00 AM EDT
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Master of Orion 2.  

Hm... um...

X-Com: Enemy Unknown.   That one is pretty good.   Actually, both that one and TFTD have been overhauled like crazy by fans over the years.

It's been awhile since I played video games.  

Civ 1 and 2 were good.  3 I didn't really care for.  Civ 4 was good.

I never played 5 and 6.

But... Alpha Centauri.   That one was incredible.   That was the real sequel to civ, imo.
7/5/2017 12:31:32 AM EDT
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The problem with saying you want an RTS game is it doesnt cover whether you mean individual level RTS, squad level or battlefield level. 

Lots of good suggestions above. I'll add (And some have been said)
XCOM
Panzer General
Wasteland (1 or 2) are really good
Fallout 1&2 are amazing
Shadowrun series is also really, really good. 
Panzer Corps, think updated Panzer General
Kings Bounty series
Heros of Might and Magic series
Civ X (X as in pick a number, not 10)
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I don't want an RTS.
7/5/2017 12:32:35 AM EDT
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I would love to see another command and conquer, I had a massive tank force

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-uhhS4yPZIjA/U0zkLNjo0iI/AAAAAAAAB1k/siDlENkho6A/s1600/0303commandandconquergenerals10.jpg
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EA killed the C&C franchise. RA3 was buggy as hell and C&C 4 was just shit. And don't get me started on the pile of shit that was their browser based game. Nothing but a blatant money grab, exploiting C&C fans desire for a new game, that wasn't pay to win, it was pay or you always lose.

The new XCom and XCom 2 are pretty good. Lots of great mods out there in Steam workshop for XCom 2, and I love the customization you can do on each Soldier. You can download voice packs, like Sterling Archer (I ran a 6 person squad from Archer with custom voices) or Schwarzenegger. There's a pretty fun turn based Shadowrun game out, too.

Old school, the old Masters of Orion 2 was great. So was Jagged Alliance 2. The remakes aren't bad, but not as good as the originals.
7/5/2017 12:34:00 AM EDT
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I don't know anything about the new XCOM games, but the original was the shit back in the day, I still play it.
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I bought the Xcom remake.  I actually forgot I had until I saw your post.

It was ok.   Never finished it.

But yeah, the old Xcom, I used to play through once every couple of years or so.

And MOO2, I would just run through quick games on impossible, tiny, just to see if it could be done in different ways.  What way was the fastest path to victory, etc...

I found if you started as a telepath, rushed a few missile destroyers and one cruiser, you'd basically win 9 times out of 10.   Don't research any tech.   Just build a few missile boat destroyers and immediately attack the first civ you encounter.  The missile boats are basically suicide attackers to take out the enemy starbase.   Then you mind control the planet and boom, you instantly have a second planet full of roided up impossible difficulty level AI pops to help you churn out a fleet for the next target.

Once I figured that out, I never picked it up again.  It kind of ruined it for me.
7/5/2017 12:36:29 AM EDT
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Another vote for the XCOM (newer or older versions, can't go wrong, really).
I love the Mechwarrior universe and am thrilled to see a new TBS/RTS coming out in that universe. If you dig mech combat also dig into Missionforce: Cyberstorm, the second one can switch between RTS and TBS.
7/5/2017 12:36:37 AM EDT
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Alpha Centauri (available from GOG on PC or Mac) is the RTS by which all others are judged. At least in my library. It's a Sid Meier civilization style game that takes place in space. Notable inclusions in the game are:

User customized units.
 Pseudostoryline interactions with the environment. 
Diplomacy that actually matters. 
Covert operations that actually matter.
An AI that has distinct personalities for the factions and will intelligently use the above mentioned diplomacy and covert ops in conjunction with appropriate military action. 
Many difficulty settings to tailor replay. 
In game options (that I believe is still supported) for play by email multiplayer. 

Just watch out for Sister Miriam, she's pretty much Isis. 
7/5/2017 12:37:05 AM EDT
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I bought the Xcom remake.  I actually forgot I had until I saw your post.

It was ok.   Never finished it.

But yeah, the old Xcom, I used to play through once every couple of years or so.

And MOO2, I would just run through quick games on impossible, tiny, just to see if it could be done in different ways.  What way was the fastest path to victory, etc...

I found if you started as a telepath, rushed a few missile destroyers and one cruiser, you'd basically win 9 times out of 10.   Don't research any tech.   Just build a few missile boats and destroyers and immediately attack the first civ you encounter.  The missile boats are basically suicide attackers to take out the enemy starbase.   Then you mind control the planet and boom, you instantly have a second planet full of roided up impossible difficulty level AI pops to help you churn out a fleet for the next target.

Once I figured that out, I never picked it up again.  It kind of ruined it for me.
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Once I figured out I could spam the Guardian with 20+ suicide missile frigates in early game and come out with a huge advantage over everyone else, it lost it's challenge. The new MOO has the same trick.
7/5/2017 12:39:46 AM EDT
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Once I figured out I could spam the Guardian with 20+ suicide missile frigates in early game and come out with a huge advantage over everyone else, it lost it's challenge. The new MOO has the same trick.
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Huh.  I never even tried that.


Dammit, now you're making me want to reinstall it just to try that.  
7/5/2017 1:03:31 AM EDT
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Matrix games has a whole slew of turn based strategy war games. However their pricing is still stuck in the early 90's when most of their games were developed that they keep updating and releasing as something new.
7/5/2017 1:39:37 AM EDT
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haven't played rome, so i'll take your word for it.  one of my frustrations with S2 is that there was little in the way of working your way up from small armies to large ones.  i wanted more tutorials with only a few blocks of infantry/cav, so i could get the hang of combined maneuvering and managing time.  i mean, the 3rd combat tutorial has something like 30 units of 8-10 different types, divided into 3 formations.  and the historical battles are downright enormous (not to mention tactically complicated).

there's a lot to chew, but it's a great deal if someone is willing to deal with the complications.

edit: here is the motherlode: rome/rome 2 medieval 2, viking, shogun/S2, empire (british), and napoleon bundled for $30.

OP, this would fill your free time for a couple of years.
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There really isn't a need for a tutorial with reddit and youtube these days.  Strategy games are so much easier to pick up now then when I started with them.  I've been playing a bit of Europa Universalis 4 (EU4) recently, and between the two I've literally cut years off of the learning curve.  Plus you can read reddit when you're supposed to be working.
7/5/2017 4:02:53 AM EDT
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such cheatery.  for me, the whole point is to figure it out myself.  i just don't like the ender-style "here's a gigantic army to introduce you to basic tactics" method.

7/5/2017 4:32:27 AM EDT
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The Total War Series may interest you.
7/5/2017 5:15:34 AM EDT
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Turn based has no place in a world of massive online, GHz processors, GPUs, and AI.
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7/5/2017 5:57:44 AM EDT
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Fail
7/5/2017 6:19:45 AM EDT
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Old. School? Risk.
7/5/2017 6:23:38 AM EDT
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Civilization series (except beyond earth, the endless trade route fuckery ruined that one for me)
Xcom (old and new)
Heroes of Might and Magic series
Endless Legend (a little buggy though) - fantasy setting empire building with a Game-of-Thrones-esque Eternal Winter is Coming mechanic and story
Omerta - City of Gangsters - build your criminal empire at the city level, a big part of the game is xcom style combat missions
7/5/2017 6:26:05 AM EDT
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Cyberstorm!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP0LsMrR1O4

Runs well in a Windows XP VM.
7/5/2017 6:39:11 AM EDT
[#43]
Chess
7/5/2017 8:37:41 AM EDT
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The new X-com games are quite good, I'm sure they are probably on the Steam summer sale right now too.
7/5/2017 8:56:16 AM EDT
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I still have several of the Talon soft games, still fun to play.
7/5/2017 9:00:41 AM EDT
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Not quite turn based...

But one of the best games grand strategy wise - ever.

europa universalis 4
7/5/2017 9:09:47 AM EDT
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Wife and I play Civ VI. Get some wine or booze, some snacks and play against each other and some AIs.

She usually tries to win culturally, but its really just a race against me wiping out other nations on my way to her
7/5/2017 9:17:45 AM EDT
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X-com is awesome
7/5/2017 9:59:45 AM EDT
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I still drag out Master of Orion 2 sometimes.  It's pretty much Civ in space.
7/5/2017 10:23:15 AM EDT
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Turn based is more relaxing.  I can load up Civ VI, watch the news, eat dinner, and when I'm ready for the next turn I just click.  
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