[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Do Colt Pythons suck? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 6/30/2017 10:59:46 AM EDT
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Yeah I know, finest revolver ever made and all. But still...
Locking up, worn hand, D frame isnt the strongest out there, godamn timing problems., just to mention some. I want one bad and I can afford it. But being honest with myself the greatest appeal it has is how pretty is. 
I kow Colts revolvers are accurate, they lock rock solid when pulling the trigger. I've had Colt revolvers before, still has a couple around, but I would just feel better abut buying it over other guns if besides looking great it also had the reliability and durability of a Smith. There's a pretty Diamondback 22 that also look fantastic. So, what do you all think? Buy or not? Why? |
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never could hit shit with a python
so I bought a model 28 smith and Wesson After 3k rounds it was as smooth as a python. Bought my brother a anaconda for Christmas years ago for 340. bachman pawn had bunches of them at the time. Wish I had bought them all. Did not want one at the time. |
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rather have my tuned 686 any day
except for looking pretty the 686 is a better gun Attached File |
| There's a reason why the Diamondback, Python, and Anaconda are no longer in production. And you just mentioned most of the reasons. They mainly collector pieces now. If you want a shooter get a Smith and Wesson 586/686 built like tanks and are still in production. |
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They are one of the finest revolvers ever made.
The Colt Python .357 Magnum Revolver |
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Yes you want one, no they are not as fragile as people claim.
I look at them as something that is an American mechanical work of art with plenty of actual skilled labor put into making and polishing them. They are from an era that will likely not be repeated. 
If you want a shooter that is cheaper but still a Colt, A Trooper III was one of the strongest .357s made and plenty accurate. This one was 1/4 the cost of the going price of a Python now. 
This one was even less as it didn't come with the box and was lightly fired. 
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they look pretty, thats about it.
for a shooter, ill take a 686 any day. My trigger is as nice as any python ive ever held and its accurate as crap. the python has several negatives going for it IMO. expensive cylinder release is awkward unless you reload in slow motion nobody wants to work on pythons anymore (timing and other problems) Then once you drop all that cash you almost dont want to shoot it ETA: 
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I have two and like them a lot and they have been very durable...........(I take care of them).
But I must admit I do think they are overpriced nowadays. I paid MUCH less for mine many years ago. Your question is a tough one.............maybe they will still keep going up in value, I just don't know. I really don't know what to tell you because this is such a subjective question. |
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Yes you want one, no they are not as fragile as people claim. I look at them as something that is an American mechanical work of art with plenty of actual skilled labor put into making and polishing them. They are from an era that will likely not be repeated. http://i64.tinypic.com/2ueh82e.jpg If you want a shooter that is cheaper but still a Colt, A Trooper III was one of the strongest .357s made and plenty accurate. This one was 1/4 the cost of the going price of a Python now. http://i63.tinypic.com/5v3vpv.jpg And something tells me that if I DONT buy one, 20 years from now I'll be hooking a car battery to my balls every time I remember I didnt get one when I had the chance. |
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That's kind of what I feel like. And something tells me that if I DONT buy one, 20 years from now I'll be hooking a car battery to my balls every time I remember I didnt get one when I had the chance. Take care of it and it will last you those 20 years easily...............you can always buy a new production hand from Jack First Co., and have it fitted if by chance the hand does get worn out. |
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Not into fickle market collector showpieces. No denying Python is fine weapon. But 6" 686 no-dash 7-shot I own fills that niche, along with my other Dan Wesson switch-barrel model 15's, for heck of a lot less $$. Just my 2c. YMMV. Is the Python reaching those price levels??? |
| I've owned 3 over the years, and have at least 100K rounds through Pythons in some form or the other. Now while saying they suck is certainly too extreme I do much prefer the double action trigger on a Smith. I have broken parts on both brands of revolvers so while I've heard and read the Python is more fragile I haven't seen all that much in it. I shoot far more more +P 38 to midrange 357Mag type loads than full power so there is that. Also The only Smith's I've had parts fail in have been J & K frames. Don't think I've ever broken a part in a L or N frame. |
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How about the king cobra in 357? What is their reputation?
I see they are not too outrageous on gunbroker. I do not have a modern revolver in my collection except for a S&W 460. I'd like to get something a little more reasonable to Shoot Another S&W in 357/38 would be my next choice |
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1979 Nickle, in the box, with all paperwork...and UNfired except for the factory test round. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/cleaner1369/DSC00148_zpsxeex13zx.jpg But your post actually saddens me. Those pistols were made to shoot. Don't let it sit unfired. They shoot like a laser. 
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I love mine. It is my favorite handgun of all those I own.
I love the way the trigger operates. In double action you can pull the trigger back until your finger tip just touches the frame, then a tiny bit more and it goes. Of course, you can just pull thru, too. Fast, solid. Single action is terrific, too - solid, crisp, clean, light. Overall, it is a solid shooter in a way no semi-auto will ever be. Mine has a different grip on it than most. It has a rubber grip with rounded bottom (Colt-branded Hogue?). When looking for my first handgun, I handled many. When I picked up the Python, it fit my hand so well I bought it without a second thought. It was the best firearm purchase I've made. If you want one, buy it! |
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I've owned three over the years and now own none. I never liked the trigger as well as a good Smith. Now, I did come across some crazy good deals on some other Colt revolvers a while ago and picked them up as they were WAY under market value. If I were to stumble across another Python for non-stupid pricing I'd probably pick one up as well, but not at the prices people want on gunbroker.
For reference, here's my Diamondback: 
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When they're timed and work right, they run for a long time. However, finding parts are increasingly difficult and finding a competent smith to work on them equally hard (Bill Laughridge's Cylinder & Slide can).
Dropping it, abusing it (pistol whip) can ruin its timing. |
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"Locking up, worn hand, D frame isnt the strongest out there, godamn timing problems., just to mention some."
Is this from firsthand experience or just dumbass secondhand comments from ignorant dumbasses on the internet that only wish they could even touch one.....some day. 
I owned one back in the 80's and I never experienced these so-called problems which so-called experts on revolvers claim. 
If you're so negatively impacted by your bad experiences with the Colt Python, then why not save up a little more cash and get a Korth Combat .357 magnum. I would if I had the money. Supposed to be hand made (like the Colt Python was semi-hand made) and supposed to be as good if not better than a Colt Python. And, they're not discontinued. 
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But, he said........the Colt Python ....... "Locking up, worn hand, D frame isnt the strongest out there, godamn timing problems., just to mention some."
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they look pretty, thats about it. for a shooter, ill take a 686 any day. My trigger is as nice as any python ive ever held and its accurate as crap.  
ETA: http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a218/xXLucidXx/13537697_10154970913319307_5652276682363764025_n_zps2jgg4hdu.jpg  You've obviously never, ever handled a Colt Python with the "factory tuned" action that was available at extra cost. Even a polished S&W trigger job can't touch the factory tuned Colt Python.
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Yes, they are just horrible. You need to send any you find to me. I'll dispose of them for you. If Colt had any brains (which they have more than proven they do not) they would bring the Python back. |
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I'm a collector who has owned about a dozen Pythons. They were discontinued in the 1990s and then the Colt Custom Shop made them from 2002 to 2006. They were easy to buy in like new or NIB condition because most people didn't shoot them. I was buying them cheap. Sold 'em all for a 300 - 400% profit. They are truly beautiful tools, but in my opinion, not as comfortable to shoot as Smiths. YMMV.
The people spending $2500 to $$$$ for Pythons won't shoot them either. They are collector pieces that people pull out once in a while to admire and impress their friends. |
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I'm a collector who has owned about a dozen Pythons. They were discontinued in the 1990s and then the Colt Custom Shop made them from 2002 to 2006. They were easy to buy in like new or NIB condition because most people didn't shoot them. I was buying them cheap. Sold 'em all for a 300 - 400% profit. They are truly beautiful tools, but in my opinion, not as comfortable to shoot as Smiths. YMMV. The people spending $2500 to $$ for Pythons won't shoot them either. They are collector pieces that people pull out once in a while to admire and impress their friends. |