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6/19/2017 1:50:40 PM EDT
What says the hive?  Who gives a shit?  Or oh my god your wheel is going to fly off.

I was always against them for geometry/load reasons.  But the truck I bought the other year has 2" spacers on in the front and I didn't realize it until the first brake job.  I just assumed the front axle was wider than the rear (not uncommon on solid axle fronts).  So running them, and not knowing it basically switched my opinion to "who gives a shit".  My opinion is also helped by the fact that I can't remove them without the tires rubbing the shit out of the leafs

I finally got around to buying spacers for the rear to de-mexicanize my truck, I was surprised that wheel spacers are still such an item of contention to some.

6/19/2017 1:54:51 PM EDT
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Make sure they're hubcentric and you have the correct lugs/studs.

Most idiots buy spacers that 1) aren't hubcentric or 2) don't have the correct lugs

PS - Discount Tire (and many other wheel/tire stores) won't touch wheels with spacers.  I had to convince them to mount my wheels because mine were hubcentric.
6/19/2017 1:56:05 PM EDT
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I don't have a problem with quality spacers. Dunno why people get do worked up about them.
6/19/2017 1:59:00 PM EDT
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I wouldn't run them, far better to order rims with the correct offset, although spacing wheels out 2" is most likely going to be a bearing eater anyway..if you are playing with a Dana 60 front, you can scrounge up dually hubs for it which will space the wheels out..in the rear you can swap in a dually axle and run it with single rear wheel rims to gain width...or just retube the stock housing and have after market axles made to fit...again, I wouldn't run spacers on my stuff or a customers...period..
6/19/2017 2:05:59 PM EDT
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I wouldn't run them, far better to order rims with the correct offset, although spacing wheels out 2" is most likely going to be a bearing eater anyway..if you are playing with a Dana 60 front, you can scrounge up dually hubs for it which will space the wheels out..in the rear you can swap in a dually axle and run it with single rear wheel rims to gain width...or just retube the stock housing and have after market axles made to fit...again, I wouldn't run spacers on my stuff or a customers...period..
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I have a 50 in the front.  I *think* I can get dually spacers for it, but aren't all duallies known for eating hubs?

I had the same opinion as you, until I realized I had been running them.
6/19/2017 2:09:16 PM EDT
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Absolutely nothing wrong with a high quality, hub-centric spacer.

6/19/2017 2:11:27 PM EDT
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I run them on the rear of my K5 to keep from rubbing, no issues in many miles.
6/19/2017 2:11:41 PM EDT
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I have a 50 in the front.  I *think* I can get dually spacers for it, but aren't all duallies known for eating hubs?

I had the same opinion as you, until I realized I had been running them.
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I wouldn't run them, far better to order rims with the correct offset, although spacing wheels out 2" is most likely going to be a bearing eater anyway..if you are playing with a Dana 60 front, you can scrounge up dually hubs for it which will space the wheels out..in the rear you can swap in a dually axle and run it with single rear wheel rims to gain width...or just retube the stock housing and have after market axles made to fit...again, I wouldn't run spacers on my stuff or a customers...period..
I have a 50 in the front.  I *think* I can get dually spacers for it, but aren't all duallies known for eating hubs?

I had the same opinion as you, until I realized I had been running them.
Not that I have seen, factory dually hubs have the rim plate cast in a different spot on the hub..meaning no spacer...I have seen hubs from a company that had taken a stock hub and machined off the rim plate and welded their own plate in a different spot.....no idea how well it held up....I will say I am surprised yours has 2" offset and turns without catching the shit out of the frame and body...even a 1/2" will cause issues with turn radius and rubbing shit on most pickups...
6/19/2017 2:13:17 PM EDT
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A large professional wheel repair shop and manufacturer uses spacers for some applications.  They drill locating holes and then pin and bolt the spacer to the wheel. 

This shop is in Phoenix.
6/19/2017 2:15:22 PM EDT
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I had a contract with a company making wheel spacers for them for several years until they discovered China.
6/19/2017 2:15:34 PM EDT
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Although they get called the same thing, they are not.

There are wheel spacers, which fit between the hub and wheel and use the existing bolts, which gives you less thread for your lugnuts.  Those have been implicated with the wheels falling off and shearing the bolts, and all sorts of nightmares.

Hub adapters, which are sometimes called wheel spacers, use their own bolts and bolt to your hub bolts, then are typically frozen in place with her Loctite.They are 100% safe to use, and I have logged over 100,000 miles on different vehicles with them both on the highway and on the trails.

If you plan on using hub adapters, Spidertrax is probably the best company for them.

Just remember to buy spare bolts, because dumb fuck tire shop guys with impact wrenches can sometime shear them, and replacements may take a week or two to ship.
6/19/2017 2:16:14 PM EDT
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While I don't find any problem with mild spacers, they do create some additional wear over time. A proper backspace will solve more problems than wheel spacers, IMO.
6/19/2017 2:28:12 PM EDT
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Not that I have seen, factory dually hubs have the rim plate cast in a different spot on the hub..meaning no spacer...I have seen hubs from a company that had taken a stock hub and machined off the rim plate and welded their own plate in a different spot.....no idea how well it held up....I will say I am surprised yours has 2" offset and turns without catching the shit out of the frame and body...even a 1/2" will cause issues with turn radius and rubbing shit on most pickups...
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It rubs very very infrequently.  Level ground, lock to lock no rub.  One wheel in a ditch against the lock?  It's going to rub.

My K5 w/ 6in and 35's rubbed more
6/19/2017 2:37:35 PM EDT
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They are like levelling kits; fucking retarded waste of money.
6/19/2017 2:37:58 PM EDT
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It rubs very very infrequently.  Level ground, lock to lock no rub.  One wheel in a ditch against the lock?  It's going to rub.

My K5 w/ 6in and 35's rubbed more
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Not that I have seen, factory dually hubs have the rim plate cast in a different spot on the hub..meaning no spacer...I have seen hubs from a company that had taken a stock hub and machined off the rim plate and welded their own plate in a different spot.....no idea how well it held up....I will say I am surprised yours has 2" offset and turns without catching the shit out of the frame and body...even a 1/2" will cause issues with turn radius and rubbing shit on most pickups...
It rubs very very infrequently.  Level ground, lock to lock no rub.  One wheel in a ditch against the lock?  It's going to rub.

My K5 w/ 6in and 35's rubbed more
You got pics of this bomber? Must be closer to stock sized tires?  I am surprised it doesn't rub more...2" is a lot...
My buddies f350 buggy rubs hard with 14" wide rims, barely touches with 12". Even with moving offset to counter the width.,but we are talking 44's...and stock turning radius, unlike our chevies where we greatly improve turn radius and can still turn to lock and not rub...

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This has studded 35's on it for winter, but you can see the 44's leaning against the wall..
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6/19/2017 3:33:16 PM EDT
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Absolutely nothing wrong with a high quality, hub-centric spacer.

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This.

I wouldn't use the ones in OPs post though since they lack the hubcentric ring.

Here's what you want:

6/19/2017 5:11:53 PM EDT
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Small hubcentric wheel spacers, like 1/4" or less with long enough studs? Sure.

Spacers with the double lug setup as you provided?  Hell no.
6/19/2017 5:14:46 PM EDT
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I've had bora 1.25" spacers on the front of my 4runner for the last 2 years, no issues.
6/19/2017 6:50:55 PM EDT
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I had 1.5" spacers on my jeep for a few years with no problems. Crawled over plenty of rocks with them.
6/19/2017 6:56:31 PM EDT
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Inexpensive way to solve some clearance problems or get a more aggressive stance, but I am not a fan.  The low-end ones suck and can pose quite a risk...and even the best quality seem like a compromise in safety.  Yeah, yours are great and you ran Moab and the Rubicon Trail on them.  Cool for you.  Hope they keep working for you.

I ponied up for replacement hub-centric wheels with less backspacing.    More expensive.  Less for me to worry about (and torque).
6/19/2017 6:57:30 PM EDT
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You got pics of this bomber? Must be closer to stock sized tires?  I am surprised it doesn't rub more...2" is a lot...
My buddies f350 buggy rubs hard with 14" wide rims, barely touches with 12". Even with moving offset to counter the width.,but we are talking 44's...and stock turning radius, unlike our chevies where we greatly improve turn radius and can still turn to lock and not rub...

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/404934/image-234294.JPG
This has studded 35's on it for winter, but you can see the 44's leaning against the wall..
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6/19/2017 7:02:06 PM EDT
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Make sure they're hubcentric and you have the correct lugs/studs.

Most idiots buy spacers that 1) aren't hubcentric or 2) don't have the correct lugs

PS - Discount Tire (and many other wheel/tire stores) won't touch wheels with spacers.  I had to convince them to mount my wheels because mine were hubcentric.
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They simply asked me if mine were hub centric and if they weren't they wouldn't mount the tires.
6/19/2017 7:02:15 PM EDT
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Buy wheels with the offset you want...roll the dice with spacers.
6/19/2017 7:05:45 PM EDT
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Most all are made from aluminum..

I'm not trusting wheel studs threaded into aluminum...
6/19/2017 7:35:23 PM EDT
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Put anti-seize on the mating surface before installing them.....trust me.
6/19/2017 7:37:24 PM EDT
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I have a 50 in the front.  I *think* I can get dually spacers for it, but aren't all duallies known for eating hubs?

I had the same opinion as you, until I realized I had been running them.
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The 50 should (notice I said should) have all 60 parts from the ball joints out.

Mine did, but those were really weird axles and I wasn't a fan of them.
6/19/2017 7:38:33 PM EDT
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They are like levelling kits; fucking retarded waste of money.
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Why is a leveling kit a waste of money? They are usually cheap and do what they are supposed to.

Same with wheel spacers, the do their job and don't cost much.
6/19/2017 7:42:38 PM EDT
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Most all are made from aluminum..

I'm not trusting wheel studs threaded into aluminum...
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Pretty sure most of them use pressed in studs, do threaded in studs even exist?
6/19/2017 7:45:22 PM EDT
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I put a set on my sidebyside, studs were too short on the spacers to have a quality bite with the lug, sent them back. Made in Merica..... might try another set.
6/19/2017 9:13:42 PM EDT
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You got pics of this bomber? Must be closer to stock sized tires?  I am surprised it doesn't rub more...2" is a lot...
My buddies f350 buggy rubs hard with 14" wide rims, barely touches with 12". Even with moving offset to counter the width.,but we are talking 44's...and stock turning radius, unlike our chevies where we greatly improve turn radius and can still turn to lock and not rub...

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/404934/image-234294.JPG
This has studded 35's on it for winter, but you can see the 44's leaning against the wall..
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/404934/image-234297.JPG
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Hmm..looks like wider tire on narrower stock width rims...what's the tire size and the rim size?
6/20/2017 6:44:51 AM EDT
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Hmm..looks like wider tire on narrower stock width rims...what's the tire size and the rim size?
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35x12.5, or whatever the fuck in metric 305/75 something.  Factory 16" wheel.
6/20/2017 7:50:57 AM EDT
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I've never been interested in them, but I know one local guy that was using them on his "bro-dozer" truck (10" lifted F-250 6.0, tires stuck way out, you know the look) that lost a front wheel while driving and ended up in the ditch! Got to see the aftermath of that one, lucky for him he had just turned recently and wasn't going too fast yet.

I've had a couple friends use them without a problem, but they are guys that don't keep the same vehicles around very long either.
6/21/2017 7:11:36 AM EDT
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Well so much for that; they won't fit on the rear.  Bore of the axle hub is too big, spacer won't seat.  Let alone my factory lug nuts won't even fit in the hole of the spacer.

So what wheels have the biggest offset?