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6/13/2017 4:18:57 PM EDT
would you trade in 4 months early if it was offered?  Did trade in a vehicle For around $4,000 to get the payment price down 2 years ago.  Vehicle is well under allotted mileage.
6/13/2017 4:25:30 PM EDT
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What Brand & Vehicle.

You can often get a better value on your lease if you trade it just prior to completion.

Go by a Car Max and get an evaluation.  Minus you lease payoff = any equity.   If you are under miles, that is a + for you not paying over on miles.

If you trade the vehicle in rather than turn it in, miles don't matter, as they appraise your vehicle the same no matter if you paid cash, financed to purchase or leased it.
6/13/2017 4:25:54 PM EDT
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You realize that you paid for those 4 months, don't ya ?
6/13/2017 4:27:38 PM EDT
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Talk to Marco, he will help you out of those 4 months.
6/13/2017 4:30:44 PM EDT
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What are you trying to accomplish? The why?
6/13/2017 4:54:43 PM EDT
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No, they roll the remaining lease payments into the new loan.
Instead of paying $300/month for the next 4 months, you'll pay an additional $20/month for the next 60 months.
Most people don't understand this because they don't do their own math.

Drive your lease for the next 4 months, then turn it in - you're paying for it either way...
6/13/2017 6:05:25 PM EDT
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It depends on what your future plans, are you going to lease another car, buy a beater, etc.  See the numbers, especially if your under the miles and see the buyout.
6/13/2017 6:10:58 PM EDT
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Well, when you lease your thowing money out in the air for nothing anyways so
6/14/2017 10:29:11 AM EDT
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Current payment is $280 per month.  Dodge has a lease deal on a Ram 1500 crew 4x4 going on for $170 per month.
6/14/2017 10:37:38 AM EDT
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In general, never put money down on lease.   Since you put money down on your current lease, the pull ahead will cost you a little bit of money.

How far under the miles are you in the current lease?  What is your buy out?  What car are you driving?  Its possible that you have equity,  highly unlikely if its a Chrylser/Fiat product.

*Car dealer*
6/14/2017 10:39:25 AM EDT
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Ford edge is the current ride.  On pace to be around 5,000 miles under.
6/14/2017 10:41:45 AM EDT
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Current payment is $280 per month.  Dodge has a lease deal on a Ram 1500 crew 4x4 going on for $170 per month.
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What are you trying to accomplish? The why?
Current payment is $280 per month.  Dodge has a lease deal on a Ram 1500 crew 4x4 going on for $170 per month.
Depending on who the lease is with you may have a few options, which may or may not work giving you rolled negative equity in.

1. your car buy out may be lower than it's current trade in, not likely
2. you will have to finish your lease out early and roll that into the new truck's lease raising the lease payment over 170.

Did the dealer work out numbers for you yet?
6/14/2017 10:42:26 AM EDT
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In general, never put money down on lease.   Since you put money down on your current lease, the pull ahead will cost you a little bit of money.

How far under the miles are you in the current lease?  What is your buy out?  What car are you driving?  Its possible that you have equity,  highly unlikely if its a Chrylser/Fiat product.

*Car dealer*
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Can I go to auction with you?
6/14/2017 10:46:49 AM EDT
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Highly unlikely you have equity.

But I don't see how you are going to do a lease pull ahead out of a Ford and into a Ram.  Those programs are meant to keep you with the same manufacturer.   Need more details.

You will also want to check your paper work for a disposition fee if you switch brands.  

Sounds like Dodge is rolling your last 4 payments into a new lease.  And you will be on the hook for a disposition fee.
6/14/2017 10:47:01 AM EDT
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Current payment is $280 per month.  Dodge has a lease deal on a Ram 1500 crew 4x4 going on for $170 per month.
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That offer also requires $2999 down. Your lease is not viable trade for that down payment.  You may find yourself at ($280 x4) + (3000), for $284 payment, plus tax.


ETA: if you have the time, stop in and see what numbers they come up with.
6/14/2017 11:00:06 AM EDT
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I work at a Toyota dealership.  You wouldn't like the price when its all done.

But, it can be done.  I've bought and sold a bunch of stuff auction outside of the dealership.

Check google reviews for a good used car lot in your area.   Go see the guys.  Tell them what you are after.  Its super easy to buy cars wholesale online.  The dealer buys the car, brings it in, and sells you the car.

Cost structure break down of what I would expect to pay

1.  Cost of the car
2.  Auction fee.  Can be anywhere from $200-$500
3.  Transportation.  $.50-$1 a mile if its out of town
4.  Dealer profit.  $500
5.  Doc fee aka more dealer profit.  Up to $500
6.   sales tax
6/14/2017 11:12:00 AM EDT
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I work at a Toyota dealership.  You wouldn't like the price when its all done.

But, it can be done.  I've bought and sold a bunch of stuff auction outside of the dealership.

Check google reviews for a good used car lot in your area.   Go see the guys.  Tell them what you are after.  Its super easy to buy cars wholesale online.  The dealer buys the car, brings it in, and sells you the car.

Cost structure break down of what I would expect to pay

1.  Cost of the car
2.  Auction fee.  Can be anywhere from $200-$500
3.  Transportation.  $.50-$1 a mile if its out of town
4.  Dealer profit.  $500
5.  Doc fee aka more dealer profit.  Up to $500
6.   sales tax
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Can I go to auction with you?
I work at a Toyota dealership.  You wouldn't like the price when its all done.

But, it can be done.  I've bought and sold a bunch of stuff auction outside of the dealership.

Check google reviews for a good used car lot in your area.   Go see the guys.  Tell them what you are after.  Its super easy to buy cars wholesale online.  The dealer buys the car, brings it in, and sells you the car.

Cost structure break down of what I would expect to pay

1.  Cost of the car
2.  Auction fee.  Can be anywhere from $200-$500
3.  Transportation.  $.50-$1 a mile if its out of town
4.  Dealer profit.  $500
5.  Doc fee aka more dealer profit.  Up to $500
6.   sales tax
My wife if friends with the wife of a guy who owns a small used dealer.

I need to talk to him.
6/14/2017 11:22:57 AM EDT
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What do you want to buy?  In my experience, its sometimes worth it to pay the new car dealership used car premium than buy stuff at the auction.

Think about it like this.  Why would a GMC dealership send a 4 year old 2500 diesel to the auction?  Because its all fucked up and they don't want to deal with it.

A rental rocket Toyota Camry?  Buy one of those from the auction.
6/14/2017 11:29:49 AM EDT
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What do you want to buy?  In my experience, its sometimes worth it to pay the new car dealership used car premium than buy stuff at the auction.

Think about it like this.  Why would a GMC dealership send a 4 year old 2500 diesel to the auction?  Because its all fucked up and they don't want to deal with it.

A rental rocket Toyota Camry?  Buy one of those from the auction.
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My wife if friends with the wife of a guy who owns a small used dealer.

I need to talk to him.
What do you want to buy?  In my experience, its sometimes worth it to pay the new car dealership used car premium than buy stuff at the auction.

Think about it like this.  Why would a GMC dealership send a 4 year old 2500 diesel to the auction?  Because its all fucked up and they don't want to deal with it.

A rental rocket Toyota Camry?  Buy one of those from the auction.
I am really looking for a zf trans quatroportte with cam variator issues.
6/14/2017 11:33:16 AM EDT
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OVE.com

Your wife's friend will have access to it.  Should be able to find what you are looking for in California.
6/14/2017 11:37:08 AM EDT
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Your wife's friend will have access to it.  Should be able to find what you are looking for in California.
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I am really looking for a zf trans quatroportte with cam variator issues.
OVE.com

Your wife's friend will have access to it.  Should be able to find what you are looking for in California.
cool..thanks
6/14/2017 9:54:45 PM EDT
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Current payment is $280 per month.  Dodge has a lease deal on a Ram 1500 crew 4x4 going on for $170 per month.
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Those are bait & switch ads.
When you get their either you will put down a big down payment or your monthly payment will be much higher.

Never go by the monthly payment - go by the total amount out of pocket (down payment, tax/title/tags, & all the monthly payments) to see how much it actually costs you over the next 3-5 years.
6/14/2017 9:56:56 PM EDT
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What do you want to buy?  In my experience, its sometimes worth it to pay the new car dealership used car premium than buy stuff at the auction.

Think about it like this.  Why would a GMC dealership send a 4 year old 2500 diesel to the auction?  Because its all fucked up and they don't want to deal with it.

A rental rocket Toyota Camry?  Buy one of those from the auction.
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Or high miles.
The Chevy dealer near me won't keep anything on the lot with more than 50K miles on it.
6/14/2017 10:40:52 PM EDT
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Those are bait & switch ads.
When you get their either you will put down a big down payment or your monthly payment will be much higher.

Never go by the monthly payment - go by the total amount out of pocket (down payment, tax/title/tags, & all the monthly payments) to see how much it actually costs you over the next 3-5 years.
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Current payment is $280 per month.  Dodge has a lease deal on a Ram 1500 crew 4x4 going on for $170 per month.
Those are bait & switch ads.
When you get their either you will put down a big down payment or your monthly payment will be much higher.

Never go by the monthly payment - go by the total amount out of pocket (down payment, tax/title/tags, & all the monthly payments) to see how much it actually costs you over the next 3-5 years.
The ads leave out TAX, TITLE, LICENSE & REGISTRATION, DEALER INSTALLED ACCESSORIES (window tint, "sealants", nitrogen in tires, - all rip offs)...  

When you add all those expenses in and remember you are paying them off in 36 payments, you may be surprised to see how much more you lease just got.  Also note the Downpayment / Deposit requirements on the "special offer"
6/14/2017 10:50:54 PM EDT
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Highly unlikely you have equity.

But I don't see how you are going to do a lease pull ahead out of a Ford and into a Ram.  Those programs are meant to keep you with the same manufacturer.   Need more details.

You will also want to check your paper work for a disposition fee if you switch brands.  

Sounds like Dodge is rolling your last 4 payments into a new lease.  And you will be on the hook for a disposition fee.
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not to be a dick op, but that sounds like doubling down on the stupid, trading a ford lease for a even worse dodge (debatable if it's actually worse or not)
I'm 99.9% sure you have negative equity in the ford, which would be rolled into the dodge plus whatever other fees. You're gonna stick yourself in a giant hole that may not be so easy to dig out of.. especially dealing with 2 shitty manufacturers.

and that $170 lease rate is on the most stripped down bare bones model they have for 730+ and above credit scores I'd bet.. if your score was higher than that you'd be financing not leasing. Sounds like a bad deal all the way around. the real lease cost would probably be at least double the $170 you're thinking, if not more.
6/21/2017 4:54:40 PM EDT
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not to be a dick op, but that sounds like doubling down on the stupid, trading a ford lease for a even worse dodge (debatable if it's actually worse or not)
I'm 99.9% sure you have negative equity in the ford, which would be rolled into the dodge plus whatever other fees. You're gonna stick yourself in a giant hole that may not be so easy to dig out of.. especially dealing with 2 shitty manufacturers.

and that $170 lease rate is on the most stripped down bare bones model they have for 730+ and above credit scores I'd bet.. if your score was higher than that you'd be financing not leasing. Sounds like a bad deal all the way around. the real lease cost would probably be at least double the $170 you're thinking, if not more.
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The Dodge lease was as I suspected and as you pointed out as a bait and switch.  Mostly geared towards veterans even though the adds never mentioned it.... shocking, I know.  It was a  nicely equipped 4 door 4x4 but went up to $316 per month with $1000 down and a credit of $1,160 For the current lease payments.  Still cheaper than the Edge I ended up going with, but my wife (it's hers) wanted the Edge instead of a truck.

I could buy one outright easily without financing but she likes getting a new ride every couple of years and I like that if anything breaks they gotta fix it.  I fully realize that it's not the greatest situation financially, but it works for us.