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6/12/2017 9:51:33 PM EDT
I think I'd like to buy an earth auger for landscaping work.  In many areas I have a couple of inches of loam on top of about 12-18 inches of road base (builder did a shit job of cleaning up after the driveway and other flatwork pours).  The drilling won't be super easy/soft.

I've read a ton of reviews and it seems like a mixed bag for hard ground unless you have something really powerful.

Any recommendations?
6/12/2017 9:56:55 PM EDT
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Are you talking about on a bobcat or tractor or what?
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6/12/2017 10:10:30 PM EDT
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That would be awesome, but no.

I'm taking about a 1 or a 2 person type auger.  Something which can support at least an 8" bit, but would prefer something more like 12-14".

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6/12/2017 10:15:30 PM EDT
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I would rent one before you buy one, they dont like hard dirt. Even the one on my Kubota in tough going I have to run a water hose to loosen stuff up as I go. In topsoil it is awsum though.
6/12/2017 10:17:43 PM EDT
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I would rent one before you buy one, they dont like hard dirt. Even the one on my Kubota in tough going I have to run a water hose to loosen stuff up as I go. In topsoil it is awsum though.
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This!  Rent.  I rented from homedepot to put a fence in, blew up about three before I was done.
6/12/2017 10:22:15 PM EDT
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I would rent one before you buy one, they dont like hard dirt. Even the one on my Kubota in tough going I have to run a water hose to loosen stuff up as I go. In topsoil it is awsum though.
This!  Rent.  I rented from homedepot to put a fence in, blew up about three before I was done.
Thanks for the feedback gents - kinda figured they might be too weak for what I have.  The wife unit has a lot of plans, but it's been taking me around 20-30 minutes per hole to dig 12"x24"  out so that I can reach undisturbed ground (which I backfill with garden soil).  The plants the builder installed have died out after a year and my guess is the cause is the road base bowl they were planted in.  Good times
6/12/2017 10:25:02 PM EDT
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Find a buddy with access to a smaller geotech drill rig.
6/12/2017 10:25:16 PM EDT
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I have rented a Toro Dingo with an auger attachment a couple times.

That is what I would recommend. Way better than a hand held two man or even a three point PTO type.

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6/12/2017 10:28:11 PM EDT
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The hand-held ones suck if you have a lot of cobbles in compact ground.  They also just plain lick the bag to run all day. 

Bobcat works.  Otherwise it's easier to just use shovels.
6/12/2017 10:28:56 PM EDT
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That would be awesome, but no.

I'm taking about a 1 or a 2 person type auger.  Something which can support at least an 8" bit, but would prefer something more like 12-14".

Like this (or similar):
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Just dug 65 30" deep holes using one almost exactly like that. 22 were in compacted fill dirt with plenty of rocks from small to 12". Don't even bother with that type material. It did rip through the rest pretty decent but its a work out. You can get it going pretty good and hit a rock and it'll give your shoulders and neck a good jarring as well.
6/12/2017 10:29:12 PM EDT
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That would be awesome, but no.

I'm taking about a 1 or a 2 person type auger.  Something which can support at least an 8" bit, but would prefer something more like 12-14".

Like this (or similar):
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I used to work in a rental yard with many post hole auger options... You are not going to find a one man auger like the one pictured that will turn a 14" bit. And anything above about 10" in anything but soft sandy soil is going to need far more horsepower than that little guy...
6/12/2017 10:30:12 PM EDT
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Hire someone with a skid steer that has enough down force to break through call it a day
6/12/2017 10:30:41 PM EDT
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I have rented a Toro Dingo with an auger attachment a couple times.

That is what I would recommend. Way better than a hand held two man or even a three point PTO type.

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Listen to this guy...
6/12/2017 10:32:25 PM EDT
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Get all your stuff lined up and rent a skid steer with a hydraulic auger for about the same amount as purchasing your own gas powered auger.

Or do it the old fashioned way with an Iwan type manual auger (I have two of these, they don't work well at all in rocky soil but you can get the job done in clay or sand/small gravel).  Clamshell if that fails.

Seriously though, rent the machine.

ETA I have used a two man 10 inch auger in heavy soil and it was terrible.
If the clay is wet you run the risk of having the thing screw itself right into the ground too.
6/12/2017 10:35:16 PM EDT
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That would be awesome, but no.

I'm taking about a 1 or a 2 person type auger.  Something which can support at least an 8" bit, but would prefer something more like 12-14".

Like this (or similar):
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I have one of those.  It's a useless piece of junk.  Do not buy.

For a man-operated unit, get one of the units where the engine sits on the ground and an arm angles up to the auger gearbox, which has the handles you control it with.


Here is one, its the Little Beaver
6/12/2017 10:42:10 PM EDT
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Reason #87 I love GD.  Great feedback and suggestions.

Can a normal sidewalk (4" or so of concrete with typical welded wire mesh) support one of those skid steers with an auger attachment?
6/12/2017 10:42:56 PM EDT
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I have one of these
Definitely powerful enough to do what you want
For sure a two man operation


Where in Texas you at?
6/12/2017 10:43:34 PM EDT
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If you're digging thru old road base, rent the skid steer with the attachment.  You're not going to hold a 10" plus bit by hand in that.

And PLEASE - call the " call before you dig" people!!!!  Angering into a gas or electric line is NOT a good day!
6/12/2017 10:46:43 PM EDT
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I have one of these
Definitely powerful enough to do what you want
For sure a two man operation
http://www.homedepot.com/tool-truck-rental/assets/img/General-Equipment/336x336/LG-Digging-GeneralEquipment-Auger2Man-large-01-A.jpg

Where in Texas you at?
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Liberty Hill (north of Austin)
6/12/2017 10:56:46 PM EDT
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I have one of these
Definitely powerful enough to do what you want
For sure a two man operation
http://www.homedepot.com/tool-truck-rental/assets/img/General-Equipment/336x336/LG-Digging-GeneralEquipment-Auger2Man-large-01-A.jpg

Where in Texas you at?
Liberty Hill (north of Austin)
A little far for a loaner
I am NE of Dallas about 50 miles

My brother lives in Leander just south of Liberty Hill
6/12/2017 10:57:42 PM EDT
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Reason #87 I love GD.  Great feedback and suggestions.

Can a normal sidewalk (4" or so of concrete with typical welded wire mesh) support one of those skid steers with an auger attachment?
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That is one of the upsides of a walk behind like the Toro Dingo. It much smaller and lighter than a full sized type. Yet it will still auger holes with ease.
6/12/2017 10:59:49 PM EDT
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That is one of the upsides of a walk behind like the Toro Dingo. It much smaller and lighter than a full sized type. Yet it will still auger holes with ease.
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Tks - gonna look into that as well
6/12/2017 11:00:38 PM EDT
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Like others have posted, it really depends on the dirt and how dry it has been.  I have one of the portable two-man augers, as well as a 3-pt hitch model, and have actually run into conditions where neither wanted to dig.  In fact, several years back it had gotten so dry that the auger on the tractor would do nothing but spin on top of the ground....had to get the bucket on the backhoe to physically push down on the attachment to get it to dig.
6/12/2017 11:00:39 PM EDT
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Reason #87 I love GD.  Great feedback and suggestions.

Can a normal sidewalk (4" or so of concrete with typical welded wire mesh) support one of those skid steers with an auger attachment?
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I wouldn't drive over my own sidewalk and my S175 is only about 6500lbs which is fairly light for a skid steer. I'd rent a dingo with tracks if it required going over my sidewalk. My BIL did take an S770 (10k) over a sidewalk to remove a bunch of landscaping and nothing was broken. Wouldn't have done it myself though.
6/12/2017 11:03:17 PM EDT
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A little far for a loaner
I am NE of Dallas about 50 miles

My brother lives in Leander just south of Liberty Hill
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Yes that would be a hike, but thanks for the thought.  I liked living in Leander but we wanted a bit more space since all of these areas are blowing up right now.  Moved out to where we are a little over a year ago.
6/12/2017 11:08:13 PM EDT
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That would be awesome, but no.

I'm taking about a 1 or a 2 person type auger.  Something which can support at least an 8" bit, but would prefer something more like 12-14".

Like this (or similar):
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8" is pushing it for a handheld auger. Jesus I would not want to even attempt a 12"-14" handheld auger. Do you have any idea how heavy that is going to get after just a few holes?
The other thing is that in anything but the softest of soils, down pressure is a huge factor in how well the auger drills. You ain't fat enough for a 14" auger buddy.
Is the ground rocky? Dangerous to use a handheld auger.
6/12/2017 11:08:44 PM EDT
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Kind of related. The first time that I visited the SO's family in Wisconsin was during hockey season.

We were watching the Badgers team on tv and then came on a commercial for a propane or lp gas powered auger for ice fishing. 

I thought that was a CSB. 
 

The commercial was low budget. I found it to be kind of cool. Being from the desert.
6/12/2017 11:12:25 PM EDT
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Be very careful. We had a case where a guy was holding down a pto driven auger in hard dirt and it caught his pants and ripped them off and "degloved" his dick all in one swoop. It was not pleasant.
6/12/2017 11:17:24 PM EDT
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6/12/2017 11:17:28 PM EDT
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8" is pretty much the limit on the handheld units.  The one you can rent at Home Depot that someone posted a photo of can do larger and is easier to handle, as the motor is the counter-balance.

Whatever you buy or rent, try to get one with reverse.  
6/12/2017 11:17:56 PM EDT
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This will get your job done

6/12/2017 11:20:29 PM EDT
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8" is pushing it for a handheld auger. Jesus I would not want to even attempt a 12"-14" handheld auger. Do you have any idea how heavy that is going to get after just a few holes?
The other thing is that in anything but the softest of soils, down pressure is a huge factor in how well the auger drills. You ain't fat enough for a 14" auger buddy.
Is the ground rocky? Dangerous to use a handheld auger.
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Yup.  A few inches of loam on top of 12-18" of compacted road base (foundation and driveway fill).  I've dug about 10 holes by hand, and at this rate I won't finish until Christmas....2030 unless I get some mechanical help
6/12/2017 11:21:44 PM EDT
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Also, if you are looking at 14" holes, suggest you rent a mini excavator, dig big holes/trenches, and use Sonotube concrete forms, and back fill to them.
6/12/2017 11:23:07 PM EDT
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If you're digging thru old road base, rent the skid steer with the attachment.  You're not going to hold a 10" plus bit by hand in that.

And PLEASE - call the " call before you dig" people!!!!  Angering into a gas or electric line is NOT a good day!
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From my phone I can't seem to highlght "angering" but I love a good Freudian slip. 

6/12/2017 11:24:16 PM EDT
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Winning! A job worth doing is one worth overdoing
6/12/2017 11:24:41 PM EDT
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If you go with a handheld rig, hang on!
I am 6' 3" and the boy is 1" shorter

There were some tense moments when we dug 32 12" holes last summer
Mostly hard-hard clay
6/12/2017 11:25:18 PM EDT
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As someone who used to rent such units to people, my advice (which was very infrequently taken) is spring for a unit that is far in excess of what you think you need.

The "One Man" and "Two Man" units suck in Alabama Dirt (Mostly Red Clay, with Rocks) get one of the mini skid-steers or the tow-behind if you are doing any large amount of holes or in difficult terrain.

Yes it costs more, but it doesn't beat you to death, and it goes much quicker and smoother.
6/12/2017 11:28:32 PM EDT
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Yup.  A few inches of loam on top of 12-18" of compacted road base (foundation and driveway fill).  I've dug about 10 holes by hand, and at this rate I won't finish until Christmas....2030 unless I get some mechanical help
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I would recommend renting a tracked bobcat with an auger. If you hit a big rock or chunk of concrete with a handheld auger, you could end up with broken hands, arms, or worse.
6/12/2017 11:50:28 PM EDT
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A coworker got her arm caught in one. She destroyed the free arm while trying to pull the caught one out. That one got tore off.
So, normal, hard working woman is minus and arm and two hands.
She accidentally overdosed about a year later. I would have too....
That being said, I like mine. Keep the spinny thing covered and keep the kids away.
6/12/2017 11:53:17 PM EDT
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A coworker got her arm caught in one. She destroyed the free arm while trying to pull the caught one out. That one got tore off.
So, normal, hard working woman is minus and arm and two hands.
She accidentally overdosed about a year later. I would have too....
That being said, I like mine. Keep the spinny thing covered and keep the kids away.
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This too, those damn things are dangerous, another reason to recommend a tracked unit or other PTO type over a "man" type, keeps your squishy bits away from the spinny thing.