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6/5/2017 1:39:50 PM EDT
Work has me in a makeshift office location and the word is there are very high levels of radon present.  I'm talking levels approaching 100pCi/L.  

A typical house has a mitigation system if levels get above 4pCi/L.

Senior mgt knows and laughs it off. Worth a call to OSHA?  I'm not interested in lung cancer in 20 yrs.
6/5/2017 1:40:48 PM EDT
[#1]
Nope. Not working there.
6/5/2017 1:41:48 PM EDT
[#2]
Nope.  Fuck that noise
6/5/2017 1:43:23 PM EDT
[#3]
Damn, is your office in a mine?
6/5/2017 1:45:46 PM EDT
[#4]
"the word is" means 2 things, Jack and Shit.  Spring for a detector at HD or Lowes.  If high levels are present call OSHA ASAP.
6/5/2017 1:46:16 PM EDT
[#5]
100?

Don't they say that you should take immediate action if it reaches around 10 in your house?  I know about 4-5 they recommend you get it mitigated.
6/5/2017 1:47:54 PM EDT
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Don't they say that you should take immediate action if it reaches around 10 in your house?  I know about 4-5 they recommend you get it mitigated.
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I was told a previous test showed levels over 80.
6/5/2017 1:48:38 PM EDT
[#7]
We had high levels at work and no mitigation system.

Out of the 8 recent births 5 had significant issues...
6/5/2017 1:48:59 PM EDT
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Not a mine but below grade. Can't give out too many details. I thinkna coworker may be a member here.
6/5/2017 1:54:15 PM EDT
[#9]
Consider it a non monetary work benefit. Some people pay money to be exposed to high levels of radon.

http://radonmine.com/
6/5/2017 1:56:15 PM EDT
[#10]
Just get a box fan to help circulate
6/5/2017 1:56:16 PM EDT
[#11]
That's exponentially more dangerous than smoking a few packs of cigarettes a day... More like a carton. Jesus. 
6/5/2017 2:01:01 PM EDT
[#12]
Stop worrying about "what you heard" and go out and buy a radon test.

Then you can worry


Ten bucks from Amazon
6/5/2017 2:02:58 PM EDT
[#13]
I guess first step is request safety test the levels. Of course then I'll be screwed. I know osha's rules against retaliation but I also know how the real world works.
6/5/2017 2:08:00 PM EDT
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File a complaint to OSHA as a whistle blower. Document each and every related interaction. Never make any threats. Get copies of all of your company reviews and any disciplinary actions against you. Do your job the best way possible and be an exemplary employee. When the company fires you, sue them.  

In case you're wondering, I have no sympathy whatsoever with employers that willfully and knowingly violate workplace safety laws and regulations.
6/5/2017 2:12:55 PM EDT
[#15]
Yeah Retaliation would suck, but it's better than Cancer.

Don't you want to be healthy enough to see the grand kids graduate?
6/5/2017 2:15:13 PM EDT
[#16]
What state do you live in?
6/5/2017 2:16:33 PM EDT
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Sorry. Gotta have some persec on this one. Coworker is potentially a member.
6/5/2017 2:17:34 PM EDT
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Sorry. Gotta have some persec on this one. Coworker is potentially a member.
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I'll IM you...
6/5/2017 2:34:25 PM EDT
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Is it documented that it is that high?

Take it up to Site Safety.

If nothing happens.

Take it up to OSHA.

Whistle Blower.
6/5/2017 2:40:00 PM EDT
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Is it documented that it is that high?

Take it up to Site Safety.

If nothing happens.

Take it up to OSHA.

Whistle Blower.
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This, holy Christ.
6/5/2017 2:40:57 PM EDT
[#21]
So you live around the sierras?

Now some places are including radon disclosures on real estate transactions.

Dat granite doe.

I haven't looked into it much, but I sure as shit am around a lot of granite.
6/5/2017 5:32:31 PM EDT
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OSHA will not mitigate a radon issue where its from a natural source.  Possibly a state authority may, Usually radioactive materials (even natural) are under state programs or NRC.   If it is from a Technically Enhanced source such as mine tailings from your employer, the authority could ask the employer to mitigate.

If it were under the Occupational purview it may also have to be above an occupational dose or ALARA program - that is doses below 5000 mrem per year and below 500 per gestation period for a pregnant employee - or a reasonable level below that before an employer.  Every breath you take anywhere in the world has some levels of radon - it ubiquitous and can't be eliminated and its levels vary with location - hard for any employer to manage which is why regulators are not typically interested or obligated by law to do so.

A reasonable employer may measure and mitigate, but not typically.

I worked for an employer where I found high levels of radon - when it was traced to being a contributor to microelectronics defects in product they mitigated but not because of occupational dose lowering.

If the radon is from poor foundation or creep underneath - it can be mitigated often by a high positive pressure created in the building with good outside air source -
6/5/2017 6:47:18 PM EDT
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OSHA will not mitigate a radon issue where its from a natural source.  Possibly a state authority may, Usually radioactive materials (even natural) are under state programs or NRC.   If it is from a Technically Enhanced source such as mine tailings from your employer, the authority could ask the employer to mitigate.

If it were under the Occupational purview it may also have to be above an occupational dose or ALARA program - that is doses below 5000 mrem per year and below 500 per gestation period for a pregnant employee - or a reasonable level below that before an employer.  Every breath you take anywhere in the world has some levels of radon - it ubiquitous and can't be eliminated and its levels vary with location - hard for any employer to manage which is why regulators are not typically interested or obligated by law to do so.

A reasonable employer may measure and mitigate, but not typically.

I worked for an employer where I found high levels of radon - when it was traced to being a contributor to microelectronics defects in product they mitigated but not because of occupational dose lowering.

If the radon is from poor foundation or creep underneath - it can be mitigated often by a high positive pressure created in the building with good outside air source -
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Occupational exposure is a term that only applies to licensees. It's the same with the exposure and monitoring limits you are mentioning that fall under CFR Parts 19 and 20. OSHA is different and is under Part 29.
6/5/2017 6:50:17 PM EDT
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OSHA will not mitigate a radon issue where its from a natural source.  Possibly a state authority may, Usually radioactive materials (even natural) are under state programs or NRC.   If it is from a Technically Enhanced source such as mine tailings from your employer, the authority could ask the employer to mitigate.

If it were under the Occupational purview it may also have to be above an occupational dose or ALARA program - that is doses below 5000 mrem per year and below 500 per gestation period for a pregnant employee - or a reasonable level below that before an employer.  Every breath you take anywhere in the world has some levels of radon - it ubiquitous and can't be eliminated and its levels vary with location - hard for any employer to manage which is why regulators are not typically interested or obligated by law to do so.

A reasonable employer may measure and mitigate, but not typically.

I worked for an employer where I found high levels of radon - when it was traced to being a contributor to microelectronics defects in product they mitigated but not because of occupational dose lowering.

If the radon is from poor foundation or creep underneath - it can be mitigated often by a high positive pressure created in the building with good outside air source -
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username is apt.
6/5/2017 6:50:32 PM EDT
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I wouldn't work there.
6/5/2017 7:05:17 PM EDT
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I had the house we bought tested before the sale and it tested high for radon.

Seller had to install radon mitigation system in house. That brought it below the EPA threshold.

Radon levels can vary throughout the year. I think winter has the highest levels. You should measure it over the course of a few months for changes and if constantly high go to your safety officer.

If they won't do anything about it then OSHA.
6/5/2017 7:50:33 PM EDT
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LOL - hadn't noticed that. I have a couple of pictures on my office wall that show it quite well. One is a core barrel from Big Rock Point during decommissioning, and another is from some operating plant during refueling with the lights out.
6/5/2017 7:53:18 PM EDT
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If in doubt call OSHA.
6/5/2017 7:55:48 PM EDT
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My house had an average of 5pCi/L with spikes to 8.1pCi/L over a 48 hr period.

Haven't mitigated it yet seeing as we haven't really moved into the basement.