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4/29/2017 8:42:32 PM EDT
Any recommendations for collector car insurance?  Best rates, positive, negative experiences?  

I'm about to put my 1966 Mustang back on the road.  Haven't driven in for a few years.  Last time I had American Collectors Insurance.  I guess it was OK but I'd like to shop around again.
4/29/2017 8:49:01 PM EDT
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Pics or you're a liar!
4/29/2017 8:50:38 PM EDT
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I've been very happy with ACI. What didn't you like about them?
4/29/2017 8:54:49 PM EDT
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Hagerty.  About $90 per $10k of declared value.
4/29/2017 8:57:22 PM EDT
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This or JC Taylor.
4/29/2017 9:00:20 PM EDT
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I use American Collectors. You should get a discount through USAA if you are a member.
Friend uses Hagerty's and gets good rates with a limited number of miles per year.
4/29/2017 9:01:35 PM EDT
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Been with Hagerty for years, never had a reason to use, which is a good thing.

My buddy has Hagerty as well, car was rear ended,  no issues , car was probably better than before the accident, no rate increase either.


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4/29/2017 9:01:42 PM EDT
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Hagerty.  About $90 per $10k of declared value.
This or JC Taylor.
Is this annual???  I'm in the same situation with my 69 Bird that just sits in the garage and just occasionally drive up and down my street to keep it running.  Didn't know it was that cheap.
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4/29/2017 9:14:06 PM EDT
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My 68 Camaro is insured for 100k. I pay around 1k a year. The biggest thing to look for is the stipulations in the contract. Hagerty would only cover it while being showed or towed. The fact that it is a resto mod was why. 800hp put a damper on it too.
I went through Nationwide who is my insurer, with a company called American Insurance. It covers both the car and the trailer.
The car is covered for driving unless I am going to grocery store in it (using it like an everyday driver)
4/29/2017 9:15:33 PM EDT
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Hagerty
4/29/2017 9:32:03 PM EDT
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My 68 Camaro is insured for 100k. I pay around 1k a year. The biggest thing to look for is the stipulations in the contract. Hagerty would only cover it while being showed or towed. The fact that it is a resto mod was why. 800hp put a damper on it too.
I went through Nationwide who is my insurer, with a company called American Insurance. It covers both the car and the trailer.
The car is covered for driving unless I am going to grocery store in it (using it like an everyday driver)
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Excellent point about the coverage! 
My Hagerty policy does not include use as a daily driver.  Only covered when I'm taking it to/from show car events, for service, car shows...

Here's my baby.   
4/29/2017 9:38:55 PM EDT
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When an uninsured driver pulled out in front of my '55 Ford, JC Taylor let me take it to a custom hot rod shop, paid over $13,000 and was very easy to work with.
4/29/2017 9:42:47 PM EDT
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Having an awesome custom retro car, paying insurance rates nearly equal to regular car insurance and only being limited to trailering, driving to or from a car show or other restrictive limitations would suck bigly.
4/29/2017 9:53:16 PM EDT
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I had no issues with them.  I never had to file a claim or anything, so I don't know if some companies are better than others if you actually need to use them.  I don't remember how much shopping around I did before I signed up with them...I don't think much.  My father recently signed up with Hagerty for his Mercedes.  Just wondering if anybody has any good or bad experiences with ACI or anyone else.
4/29/2017 9:56:35 PM EDT
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I have four of my cars insured through Grundy and couldn't be happier.  They're all stated value policies and Grundy was more than easy to work with.  They required current photos of each car and photographic proof that they were stored indoors, but that's it.  When I took out the policies I checked both Haggerty and Grundy, and Grundy was almost half the price with better coverage.  My biggest complaint is that their policies stipulate no drivers under 25 so I can't legally let my son drive any of my old cars.  Not legally, at least...  
4/29/2017 10:03:21 PM EDT
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OK, I suppose....

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4/29/2017 10:07:11 PM EDT
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My 68 Camaro is insured for 100k. I pay around 1k a year. The biggest thing to look for is the stipulations in the contract. Hagerty would only cover it while being showed or towed. The fact that it is a resto mod was why. 800hp put a damper on it too.
I went through Nationwide who is my insurer, with a company called American Insurance. It covers both the car and the trailer.
The car is covered for driving unless I am going to grocery store in it (using it like an everyday driver)
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OK, that wouldn't be good.  It's not a daily driver by any means, but I do like to drive it to work on nice days or take the occasional cruise or date night with the wife.
4/30/2017 11:41:56 AM EDT
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hagerty.

you have to call and ask for each one of the insurers listed.

Hagerty was the only one that said it was covered for occasional use other than driving to or from a show and other than daily driving.

The others flat out stated that I wouldn't be covered driving to work or going to get groceries in it/running errands.

I might drive it to work once a year when the weather is nice.
But I take it out every weekend to pick stuff up when it is less than 90 degrees outside.
I made sure it wasn't excluded in the policy both verbaly and in reading the doc.

Some might have been a few bucks cheaper, but 300 a year isn't bad vs 250 a year and I can't drive it.
4/30/2017 12:12:55 PM EDT
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hagerty.

you have to call and ask for each one of the insurers listed.

Hagerty was the only one that said it was covered for occasional use other than driving to or from a show and other than daily driving.

The others flat out stated that I wouldn't be covered driving to work or going to get groceries in it/running errands.


I might drive it to work once a year when the weather is nice.
But I take it out every weekend to pick stuff up when it is less than 90 degrees outside.
I made sure it wasn't excluded in the policy both verbaly and in reading the doc.

Some might have been a few bucks cheaper, but 300 a year isn't bad vs 250 a year and I can't drive it.
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That might have been your experience but it certainly wasn't mine.  I just pulled out one of my Grundy policies and it states "Is not used for regular driving to work, school, errands, shopping, general transportation, secondary or back-up transportation, business or commercial purposes, except for limited pleasure use."  Says nothing about only being used to drive to and from car shows, just that you obviously can't use it for daily transportation or a work truck.  If I want to drive one of my cars to work on a pretty day then I'm 100% covered.  Grundy also has an exclusion in the event that you wreck your collector car during any kind of racing event, but I think that's pretty standard amongst all of these companies.
4/30/2017 12:23:03 PM EDT
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I use J C Taylor.

4/30/2017 12:26:59 PM EDT
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Hagerty was the only one that said it was covered for occasional use other than driving to or from a show and other than daily driving.

The others flat out stated that I wouldn't be covered driving to work or going to get groceries in it/running errands.
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ACI has general use collector policies as well, so that isn't really true.

Different mileage tiers, modification & restoration policies as well. They seem more flexible and forgiving than some of the other companies I talked to. I didn't talk to every one though.
4/30/2017 12:27:13 PM EDT
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Is it true that having collector's car insurance negates the requirement to have it emission tested?
4/30/2017 1:10:55 PM EDT
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ACI has general use collector policies as well, so that isn't really true.

Different mileage tiers, modification & restoration policies as well. They seem more flexible and forgiving than some of the other companies I talked to. I didn't talk to every one though.
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Yeah, I don't remember the exact language, but when I had ACI I could drive to work or pleasure drive occasionally.
4/30/2017 3:10:03 PM EDT
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I live in Alabama.  What is this emissions testing of which you speak?    


Not to mention that I doubt any state has emissions specifications on Model T and Model A Fords...
4/30/2017 3:10:46 PM EDT
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I live in Alabama.  What is this emissions testing of which you speak?    


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Before 66 you don't have to go through emissions here
4/30/2017 3:14:22 PM EDT
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Emissions states I've lived in required you register with collector plates, insurance didn't matter.

Haggerty says I can drive my junk where ever so long as I don't put 1000 miles on it if IIRC.
4/30/2017 3:16:59 PM EDT
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Here in CA its pre-1975.
And here having classic car insurance  doesn't change your emissions requirement, but having a "Historical" registration does.
4/30/2017 3:20:24 PM EDT
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I have had Grundy Worldwide and Hagerty.  From REAL WORLD experience, Grundy Worldwide was absolutely awesome to deal with for a rather large total loss claim that I made.  They also had the best rates.  I now have Hagerty on a different car do to Grundy not insuring me until more time passes do to the amount of the loss.  Hagerty is more expensive, and hopefully if I ever have to make a claim, they will handle it half as good as Grundy (GW was THAT easy to deal with).
4/30/2017 3:23:20 PM EDT
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I have four of my cars insured through Grundy and couldn't be happier.  They're all stated value policies and Grundy was more than easy to work with.  They required current photos of each car and photographic proof that they were stored indoors, but that's it.  When I took out the policies I checked both Haggerty and Grundy, and Grundy was almost half the price with better coverage.  My biggest complaint is that their policies stipulate no drivers under 25 so I can't legally let my son drive any of my old cars.  Not legally, at least...  
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I didn't know Grundy even did Stated value.  Ditch that junk coverage and get Agree Value through them.
4/30/2017 3:23:23 PM EDT
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I use national corvette museum.

I have three cars covered with them for about 100k.

450 a year, plus 2000 miles, work twice a month, each car.

The miles accumulate so you don't loose them.

Call them and see.
4/30/2017 3:27:18 PM EDT
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Having an awesome custom retro car, paying insurance rates nearly equal to regular car insurance and only being limited to trailering, driving to or from a car show or other restrictive limitations would suck bigly.
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Yep, I looked in it for my 66 F-250 but didn't want those limitations. I just add it to my existing policy with no limitations and it's $200 a year extra. Now if it were to get totaled I may get hosed on replacement value since I'm sure it KBBs for way less than I have into it. It's a trade off I'll take since I've saved at least that much over the past 30 yrs in premiums.
4/30/2017 3:29:45 PM EDT
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Yep, I looked in it for my 66 F-250 but didn't want those limitations. I just add it to my existing policy with no limitations and it's $200 a year extra. Now if it were to get totaled I may get hosed on replacement value since I'm sure it KBBs for way less than I have into it. It's a trade off I'll take since I've saved at least that much over the past 30 yrs in premiums.
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Having an awesome custom retro car, paying insurance rates nearly equal to regular car insurance and only being limited to trailering, driving to or from a car show or other restrictive limitations would suck bigly.
Yep, I looked in it for my 66 F-250 but didn't want those limitations. I just add it to my existing policy with no limitations and it's $200 a year extra. Now if it were to get totaled I may get hosed on replacement value since I'm sure it KBBs for way less than I have into it. It's a trade off I'll take since I've saved at least that much over the past 30 yrs in premiums.
Most of us do it for the Agreed Value part, which is HUGE.  Most major INScomps also have inflation protection which adds on 2-5% per year (whatever your contract states) on to the Agreed Value, without increasing rates.  My total loss claim with Grundy Worldwide was 4% per year for 5 years.  It was a nice extra chunk of change.

And most importantly, the "limitations" are nowhere near as strict as what some people make them out to be.  Know how I know?  Because I was never even asked where I was going when I was going or what I was doing when I had my accident.  
4/30/2017 3:39:53 PM EDT
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4/30/2017 3:42:57 PM EDT
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My problem is I have 4 cars that will only leave my garage to drive a few miles to keep things lubricated and reach operating temperature.  The 4 cars have not been driven a total of 50 miles in the last 10 years.  So less than 3 miles each a year and that may be high. My chances of being involved in an accident is virtually nil.  My biggest concern is liability.  
My insurance is through State Farm and I would bet none are valued for more than 25% of their actual value.  Paying an average of about $850 a year on each and none have had a tag in 6 or 8 years.
I need to call Hagerty or one of the others just in case I have a claim.  That would be a nightmare!
4/30/2017 3:43:32 PM EDT
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Would love to get a policy from any of the collector companies for my 65 falcon. They all require a garage which I don't have.
4/30/2017 4:12:56 PM EDT
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I didn't know Grundy even did Stated value.  Ditch that junk coverage and get Agree Value through them.
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I have four of my cars insured through Grundy and couldn't be happier.  They're all stated value policies and Grundy was more than easy to work with.  They required current photos of each car and photographic proof that they were stored indoors, but that's it.  When I took out the policies I checked both Haggerty and Grundy, and Grundy was almost half the price with better coverage.  My biggest complaint is that their policies stipulate no drivers under 25 so I can't legally let my son drive any of my old cars.  Not legally, at least...  
I didn't know Grundy even did Stated value.  Ditch that junk coverage and get Agree Value through them.
That's actually what I have, I just misspoke.  I told them how much coverage I wanted per vehicle and that's what they insured them for.


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Having an awesome custom retro car, paying insurance rates nearly equal to regular car insurance and only being limited to trailering, driving to or from a car show or other restrictive limitations would suck bigly.
Yep, I looked in it for my 66 F-250 but didn't want those limitations. I just add it to my existing policy with no limitations and it's $200 a year extra. Now if it were to get totaled I may get hosed on replacement value since I'm sure it KBBs for way less than I have into it. It's a trade off I'll take since I've saved at least that much over the past 30 yrs in premiums.
Most of us do it for the Agreed Value part, which is HUGE.  Most major INScomps also have inflation protection which adds on 2-5% per year (whatever your contract states) on to the Agreed Value, without increasing rates.  My total loss claim with Grundy Worldwide was 4% per year for 5 years.  It was a nice extra chunk of change.

And most importantly, the "limitations" are nowhere near as strict as what some people make them out to be.  Know how I know?  Because I was never even asked where I was going when I was going or what I was doing when I had my accident.  
Exactly.  Not sure where some of these folks are getting their misinformation but they're not going to deny you a claim just because you decided to drive your old car to Home Depot one Saturday instead of a car show.
4/30/2017 6:40:48 PM EDT
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That's actually what I have, I just misspoke.  I told them how much coverage I wanted per vehicle and that's what they insured them for.


Exactly.  Not sure where some of these folks are getting their misinformation but they're not going to deny you a claim just because you decided to drive your old car to Home Depot one Saturday instead of a car show.
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I have four of my cars insured through Grundy and couldn't be happier.  They're all stated value policies and Grundy was more than easy to work with.  They required current photos of each car and photographic proof that they were stored indoors, but that's it.  When I took out the policies I checked both Haggerty and Grundy, and Grundy was almost half the price with better coverage.  My biggest complaint is that their policies stipulate no drivers under 25 so I can't legally let my son drive any of my old cars.  Not legally, at least...  
I didn't know Grundy even did Stated value.  Ditch that junk coverage and get Agree Value through them.
That's actually what I have, I just misspoke.  I told them how much coverage I wanted per vehicle and that's what they insured them for.


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Having an awesome custom retro car, paying insurance rates nearly equal to regular car insurance and only being limited to trailering, driving to or from a car show or other restrictive limitations would suck bigly.
Yep, I looked in it for my 66 F-250 but didn't want those limitations. I just add it to my existing policy with no limitations and it's $200 a year extra. Now if it were to get totaled I may get hosed on replacement value since I'm sure it KBBs for way less than I have into it. It's a trade off I'll take since I've saved at least that much over the past 30 yrs in premiums.
Most of us do it for the Agreed Value part, which is HUGE.  Most major INScomps also have inflation protection which adds on 2-5% per year (whatever your contract states) on to the Agreed Value, without increasing rates.  My total loss claim with Grundy Worldwide was 4% per year for 5 years.  It was a nice extra chunk of change.

And most importantly, the "limitations" are nowhere near as strict as what some people make them out to be.  Know how I know?  Because I was never even asked where I was going when I was going or what I was doing when I had my accident.  
Exactly.  Not sure where some of these folks are getting their misinformation but they're not going to deny you a claim just because you decided to drive your old car to Home Depot one Saturday instead of a car show.
Insurance companies put those stipulations in there for a reason (to limit their potential outlay). In my experience, they are not in the habit of handing out checks without making sure they are legally obligated to do so. My office manager was in insurance for years and they actually had seminars on how to stonewall customers so they got fed up with the questions and red tape and took whatever was offered just to have it over with.

If your policy says "car shows only" they will absolutely want to know which show you were travelling to when you wrecked it. If they don't, that's an anomaly and not the norm.

I'm sure I am not the norm but I figure if I've saved 20K over the past 30 yrs, I would have basically paid the entire value of my truck to the insurance company while receiving nothing in return.
4/30/2017 7:05:35 PM EDT
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I use Heacock. About $90-$100 per 10K sounds about right.There are stipulations. Mile per year driven (I drive about 1500), must be stored in a enclosed garage at your home address, etc. I suspect that if you have a sizable claim they may verify your claims. I have had vehicles insured for about 10 years and have only been asked to send a picture once after the initial policy. Comes with road assistance as well. I had an oil drop once, called the number, they sent a flatbed and got it home. Not bad for about $240 a year for full coverage.
4/30/2017 7:35:49 PM EDT
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My FIL has been buying and selling collector cars (mostly 50s convertibles) for 30 years. He usually keeps 6-8 cars around to drive. He uses Grundy and drives his cars all over the place. He has had a couple claims over the years and had zero issues dealing with them. Most of his cars value between 60-80k. Mostly AACA junior and senior cars.

ETA: he cannot allow anyone under 25 to use them either