Posted: 4/19/2017 10:09:13 AM EDT
| Currently putting drill in vise and using a giruard trimmer, rcbs uniformer then rcbs crimp remover. My question is their a tool that uniforms the pocket and cuts crimp in one step? Have a super swedge and use it when I feel like sorting brass and a hornady uniformer that's suppose to clean pocket as it cuts crimp but not crazy about it either. What I'm using works good but there has to be a way to cut a step out right? Anyone? |
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Currently putting drill in vise and using a giruard trimmer, rcbs uniformer then rcbs crimp remover. My question is their a tool that uniforms the pocket and cuts crimp in one step? Have a super swedge and use it when I feel like sorting brass and a hornady uniformer that's suppose to clean pocket as it cuts crimp but not crazy about it either. What I'm using works good but there has to be a way to cut a step out right? Anyone? Grunt work is grunt work. If you have a Giraud, you've obviously cut a lot of it out already and I envy you for that! I haven't heard of a 2in1 crimp reamer/pocket uniformer, but I've been somewhat out of the reloading 'loop' for a while and haven't kept up. I have the Hornady reamer bits that I chuck into my 18v Skil drill and do that chore while watching the idiot box. For reaming, those are the best bits in my experience. Really good steel and I've had them for 22+ years. For uniforming the primer pockets on my target stuff, I use the Sinclair carbide bits in their own holder chucked into the same drill, while watching a game. You might check over at Sinclair International and see what's up. I have the RCBS TrimMate that I got 12 years back, along with their lg./sm. reamers and the little one hasn't ever worked well, so I don't use them on the TM. I too have a Dillon Super Swage 600 and I've even done the 'rubber band auto' mod on mine, but I haven't been reloading much over the past 5 years and haven't used a ton. I like tools though. We have to adjust that one for differing headstamps, so there is some fiddling involved with it, but it's very speedy and easier on the 'fingers/hands'. Good luck! Chris |
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Not sure it matters, but I would remove the crimp before uniforming the pocket.  And for that matter, I would do anything that manipulates the brass, including resizing, BEFORE trimming.
And to answer your question - I've not seen a tool that removes crimp and uniforms in one action. |
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Not sure it matters, but I would remove the crimp before uniforming the pocket.  And for that matter, I would do anything that manipulates the brass, including resizing, BEFORE trimming. And to answer your question - I've not seen a tool that removes crimp and uniforms in one action. I agree with you that I'd remove the crimp first, before uniforming the primer pocket bottoms. Chris |
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I just looked at their site and don't see one that reams the crimp and uniforms the pocket in one step. Do you have a link? I even looked at Sinclair and don't see one, but I'm not looking all that hard. Chris https://www.lymanproducts.com/brands/lyman/case-prep-tools/case-prep-tools/primer-pocket-reamer-lg-sm.html or maybe this https://ads.midwayusa.com/product/435089/lyman-reamer-and-cleaner-accessory-set?cm_mmc=pf_ci_google-_-Reloading - Metallic Reloading Equipment(Not+Presses)-_-Lyman-_-435089&gclid=CO3h8ryBsdMCFZcjgQodpVcMSA |
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https://www.lymanproducts.com/brands/lyman/case-prep-tools/case-prep-tools/primer-pocket-reamer-lg-sm.html or maybe this https://ads.midwayusa.com/product/435089/lyman-reamer-and-cleaner-accessory-set?cm_mmc=pf_ci_google-_-Reloading - Metallic Reloading Equipment(Not+Presses)-_-Lyman-_-435089&gclid=CO3h8ryBsdMCFZcjgQodpVcMSA My uniformer will clean the bottom of the pockets, because it's shaving metal off and making it flat, but I only perform that task once, with new brass. I clean my pockets every three cycles just because of OCD. The buildup isn't even that bad after three firings. Thanks for the links. Chris |
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Fosters makes a TRIMMG Cutter that will trim to length and deburr the outside and inside at the same time!!
Made fixture for my mill do the crimp removal BEFORE trimming. The sharpened neck is not your friend by the way there about 7K 556 in a five ballon bucket |
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This is just my personal opinion, but if you are going to go through the trouble of uniforming primer pockets, you might as well break down and either build or buy a concentricity gauge.
Here is my homemade one:  Homemade Concentricty Gauge Part I: Seated Bullet Runout And then I splurged and bought a commercially available one:  AccuracyOne Concentricity Gauge vs. My .223 Handloads Have you thought about sorting cases by weight, yet? |
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Since 556 brass is so plentiful, I suggest you just toss it, not worth the time. I used to shoot mil-surp with crimped primers but no more. You are going to end up losing about 10-20% any ways. IF it was a really expensive case, it maybe worth it. @warlord OP, I have never seen a tool that cuts the crimp and uniforms the pocket in a single step. |
| thanks for all the advice and help, yes I full length size and unless I'm missing something I don't know how to trim before resizing. not quite sure about the 20% loss either. would love to afford lapua brass but the cost is out of my league when I can buy once fired lc for $60. one question I still have is before I started uniforming the pockets I would get high primers so doing this every time not only cleaned the pocket but ensured this didn't happen, not doing this for accuracy, am I missing something? I do decrimp before though. love the giruard too btw! |
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thanks for all the advice and help, yes I full length size and unless I'm missing something I don't know how to trim before resizing. not quite sure about the 20% loss either. would love to afford lapua brass but the cost is out of my league when I can buy once fired lc for $60. one question I still have is before I started uniforming the pockets I would get high primers so doing this every time not only cleaned the pocket but ensured this didn't happen, not doing this for accuracy, am I missing something? I do decrimp before though. love the giruard too btw! Unless you're neck sizing only, say for a bolt gun, you'll be FL sizing, so you'll want to full size first and then trim, if you need to trim. If you have your sizing die set up properly, you might not have to trim for a couple of cycles, if at all, once you get your brass set up properly for the first reload. As far as cleaning primer pockets, if I've uniformed the bottoms, I'm not cleaning them after every cycle, as there's not enough build-up of carbon, to cause high primers. If you don't uniform the pocket and you use a taller primer, resulting in high primer seating, you might want to clean them...it just depends. If you're shooting the championship match for that new VW Jetta, you might not want to use LC brass and you'll be buying something else, which maybe has some of this 'grunt work': flash holes, primer pockets, no crimps, weight sorted, already done. Chris |