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3/23/2017 3:34:15 PM EDT
How do they compare to say Leupold? Are they very rugged? I am looking at this Scope. What I am getting at wil they hold up well to some abuse?
3/23/2017 3:36:31 PM EDT
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Great bang for the buck scopes. I have the 1-6 and 5-20. They are pretty damn clear.
3/23/2017 3:38:50 PM EDT
[#2]
I have several of the fixed 10x.

if they were tanks, they'd be tigers. they are all but bombproof
3/23/2017 3:41:51 PM EDT
[#3]
How well do they compare to a fixed leupold 12x? Meaning quality wise, like to get something I can lower the power on
3/23/2017 3:41:56 PM EDT
[#4]
I have that same exact scope on my 700. Good quality glass and I've never had a problem with it. Never owned a leupold though. I also baby that rifle.
3/23/2017 3:43:25 PM EDT
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I have one of their early 1-4 scopes. Had a minor problem with the battery cover that they fixed by sending me a new cover. I've shot it out to 600 yards, seems like a nice scope.
3/23/2017 3:44:54 PM EDT
[#6]
They are solid.  

It would be nice to see some more reticle options and an updated look.
3/23/2017 3:44:58 PM EDT
[#7]
I have that exact one.

I've beat mine around quite a bit. My only issue has been with the way the turret knobs attach. The set screws can loosen if you don't secure them all the way.

Glass is great.

Other than that, I just wish it were illuminated for low light use.
3/23/2017 3:49:42 PM EDT
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how do they compare to vortex scopes?
3/23/2017 3:51:13 PM EDT
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if they were tanks, they'd be tigers. they are all but bombproof
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All of this. Excellent scopes for the money.
3/23/2017 3:52:18 PM EDT
[#10]
... SWFA service is stellar
3/23/2017 3:55:04 PM EDT
[#11]
My preference would be

1- Leupold
2- Vortex
3- SWFA

All 3 are good to go. If you find a deal on any of the above, snag it.
3/23/2017 4:08:10 PM EDT
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IME the Vortex Vipers have better glass. (ETA: than the fixed standard Super Snipers - I haven't use any of the HD line)

I generally don't trust anything below the Viper line to hold zero for very long.
3/23/2017 4:08:52 PM EDT
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https://sportsgearoptics.com/home/107-athlon-argos-btr-6-24x50-riflescope.html

It is a good scope. My brother has one. It is, however, a second focal plane scope. The Athlon Argos above is an excellent option in First focal plane with a life time guarantee. There is a long thread over on snipers hide about this scope.
3/23/2017 4:09:55 PM EDT
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It is a good scope. My brother has one. It is, however, a second focal plane scope. The Athlon Argos above is an excellent option in First focal plane with a life time guarantee. There is a long thread over on snipers hide about this scope.
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Doesn't do you much good if it won't track.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_16_5/5179_Athlon-Talos-BTR-4-14x44-Don-t-Track--Returned---NEW-SCOPE--SWFA-3-15X42-LR-UPDATE-in-OP.html
3/23/2017 4:11:18 PM EDT
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This.
3/23/2017 4:15:06 PM EDT
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I am wanting to upgrade or side grade lol what ever from a leuppy fixed 12, I want to be able to lower the power for coyote hunting... How well will this SWFA compare to the Glass on the leupold? Also would it be tougher than the FX12? Basically what am I asking would I be down grading by going to the SWFA? I am also looking at the VXR line
3/23/2017 4:23:51 PM EDT
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3/23/2017 4:24:38 PM EDT
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It is a good scope. My brother has one. It is, however, a second focal plane scope. The Athlon Argos above is an excellent option in First focal plane with a life time guarantee. There is a long thread over on snipers hide about this scope.
Doesn't do you much good if it won't track.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_16_5/5179_Athlon-Talos-BTR-4-14x44-Don-t-Track--Returned---NEW-SCOPE--SWFA-3-15X42-LR-UPDATE-in-OP.html
i just replied to that thread - I don't' that that is (yet) a fair assessment given his sample size of one and not allowing them to send a replacement.  By his logic, Vortex's all have broken magnification dials given I got one that way.  Not a paid shill, not affiliated with Athlon in any way.  
3/23/2017 4:25:13 PM EDT
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Ive had a 10x model on my M82 for 3 years.  I might have 500 rounds down the pipe with no issues.

Another couple 10x on a 700 and Savage 10 for a decade.

3-9x on a 20 inch AR since 2013.

They've been dropped on boulders, stepped on, tripped on, baked in the desert sun and left in the truck for nights in freezing weather.  I haven't drowned or set one on fire yet.

Great scopes for the price.
3/23/2017 4:28:42 PM EDT
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I am wanting to upgrade or side grade lol what ever from a leuppy fixed 12, I want to be able to lower the power for coyote hunting... How well will this SWFA compare to the Glass on the leupold? Also would it be tougher than the FX12? Basically what am I asking would I be down grading by going to the SWFA? I am also looking at the VXR line
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I really like the SWFA scopes. But for the purpose you describe I would get the VXR.
3/23/2017 4:29:26 PM EDT
[#21]
I have a older 10X great scope for the money, especially if you can find a nice used one.
3/23/2017 4:32:39 PM EDT
[#22]
My new 6.5 will be topped with a 10x mil-dot.
My older 10FP, 700, and a couple of ARS have all had them.

It is a toss up between that and a Primary Arms....but the SuperSniper will probably win out.
3/23/2017 4:33:26 PM EDT
[#23]
SWFA scopes are great and probably the best bang for the buck around. I usually go Trijicon for tactical optics, and Vortex for precision variables, and have no reservations about using SWFA fixed 10's or 12's with matching turret/reticle for anything fixed power.
3/23/2017 4:34:13 PM EDT
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isn't that a Tasco SS?
3/23/2017 4:34:56 PM EDT
[#25]
Two SWFA scopes here. Would recommend.
3/23/2017 4:35:29 PM EDT
[#26]
I have an older Tasco 10x Super Sniper on a Rem700 HB in 308. Another Super Sniper in 16x on my Barrett M95. Both have had a lot of rounds downrange and have always returned to their 100m zero with no problems.
3/23/2017 4:36:54 PM EDT
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We had some Billy Bob Know-it-all in one of our classes a few years ago, telling everyone that would listen how they had bought SWFA scopes for all their department tac - team rifles. They took them all to the range to sight them in and "every damn one of the "recticles" broke (his pronunciation,  not mine) after 3 or 4 rounds.

I asked him what he meant when he said the reticles broke. He said, "they just snapped.  You'd spin the adjustment knobs and they'd just spin. No clicks, crosshairs wouldn't move...they just broke! They're crap."

I took one off of another rifle and showed him the set screws on the rims of the elevation and windage adjustment knobs and asked him if any of them had tried tightening the set screws because they shipped new with the set screws only slightly tightened.



It's not so frightening that someone gave that idiot a badge, but they gave him a gun to go with it too.
3/23/2017 4:37:12 PM EDT
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It is a good scope. My brother has one. It is, however, a second focal plane scope. The Athlon Argos above is an excellent option in First focal plane with a life time guarantee. There is a long thread over on snipers hide about this scope.
Doesn't do you much good if it won't track.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_16_5/5179_Athlon-Talos-BTR-4-14x44-Don-t-Track--Returned---NEW-SCOPE--SWFA-3-15X42-LR-UPDATE-in-OP.html
The one reviewed was a Talos.  I have the Argos and it tracks wonderful.  I have about 200 rounds through it so far.  Will give a full review when I have about 200 more.
3/23/2017 4:46:51 PM EDT
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I've owned 3 of the fixed 10X scopes.  One on a 700SPS Tactical and the other two on 50BMG's (one Serbu and the other an AR-50).  Like noted above they are tanks and have better clarity than a scope in that price range should.
3/23/2017 5:48:57 PM EDT
[#30]
How much should I ask for the fx12? It's about 8 years old....


3/23/2017 6:32:31 PM EDT
[#31]
Love me some 10x Mil/Mil SWFA goodness. Great bulletproof scopes.
3/23/2017 6:41:48 PM EDT
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Same here.  And, I've got an SWFA 10x side focus on back order right now.

And for the guy above who asked if these are Tasco Super Snipers...definitely not the Tasco unit of 15-20 years ago.  Check out TiborasaurusRex's youtube vid for the scoop on these scopes, if you care to get up to speed.
3/23/2017 6:46:01 PM EDT
[#33]
Ive got the FFP version of the 3-15 and am happy with it. I think its a good buy at the Black Friday price of around $575ish. IMO it is great glass at that price though right at 15x it does get a smidge dim and the reticle gets a little thick. Tracks reliably and seems robust.
3/23/2017 7:06:24 PM EDT
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Had a Super Sniper that fogged up.  Returned to SWFA and no issues whatsoever.  However, I did trade it on my go to brand Leupold.