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2/20/2017 4:43:56 PM EDT
I have a 2013 Nissan Rogue.

I have been having a intermittent issue. Has happened a few times now. Has only happened on longer trips so far. There is a particularly long fairly steep hill coming from LA to Vegas on NB I15 going up to Hollaran Summit where the issue has shown itself almost reliably. Basically the throttle becomes semi non responsive.

I'll be cruising along around 80 mph and then it kind of just slowly starts losing power. Doesn't fully cut out on me but will only rev up to around 3k rpm and if i stomp the pedal to the floor it just doesn't try to go any faster and will gradually decelerate to about 65 or so going up that hill. The first couple of times I pulled off at an exit and when i get to a stop sign or something and try to go again it almost won't go at all. I have either just shut of the car or shifted in to park or something and then it works normally again.

Happened again last night. It went away at first but then came back and persisted most of the way in to vegas then it was fine again.

My theory is that it's sucking some sediment from the tank in to the fuel system or something and maybe all i need is some fuel injector cleaner or something.  Could this be something way worse? What the hell is wrong with my car?
2/20/2017 4:46:13 PM EDT
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I can't diagnose.  But I can tell you that sentiment in the tank isn't the problem.
2/20/2017 5:04:13 PM EDT
[#2]
Is it an instant reset when you stop or do you have to wait?

Is there a change in the sounds, Trans or the exhaust note that you notice.

No check engine light ?
2/20/2017 5:08:03 PM EDT
[#3]
Time to sell it and buy a real car that has enough balls to drive up a hill.  

Oh, and your torque converter isn't unlocking.  Time for transmission work.
2/20/2017 5:35:36 PM EDT
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I wonder if it could be a safety switch that makes the engine/transmission unable to rev up into higher RPM's. I could be wrong, but I believe they do that to keep from burning up CVT transmissions.
2/20/2017 5:43:43 PM EDT
[#5]
My guesses:

1. fuel pump
2. catalytic converter

My suburban was having the uphill problems.  Was fuel pump.  


Another time was having dead/sluggish throttle at times, little or no acceleration.  That was the cat.  

Question - what's the battery voltage gauge doing when this happens?
2/20/2017 5:46:03 PM EDT
[#6]
Find out what codes it's throwing out, and go from there.
2/20/2017 5:46:44 PM EDT
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Is it an instant reset when you stop or do you have to wait?

Is there a change in the sounds, Trans or the exhaust note that you notice.

No check engine light ?
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No idiot light, no noticeable changes.

It was pretty much instant.
2/20/2017 5:47:23 PM EDT
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Still under warranty?  Maybe dealer could scan it and see if something is logged in the computer?  Sounds like some sort of safe mode to keep something from blowing.
2/20/2017 5:48:00 PM EDT
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My guesses:

1. fuel pump
2. catalytic converter

My suburban was having the uphill problems.  Was fuel pump.  


Another time was having dead/sluggish throttle at times, little or no acceleration.  That was the cat.  

Question - what's the battery voltage gauge doing when this happens?
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There isn't one that i know of
2/20/2017 5:49:09 PM EDT
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Still under warranty?  Maybe dealer could scan it and see if something is logged in the computer?  Sounds like some sort of safe mode to keep something from blowing.
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Only power train warranty now.

Would those show up with the code readers they use at autozone for free since there is no idiot light or are you talking about a more sophisticated scan?
2/20/2017 5:51:10 PM EDT
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I have a 2013 Nissan Rogue.

I have been having a intermittent issue. Has happened a few times now. Has only happened on longer trips so far. There is a particularly long fairly steep hill coming from LA to Vegas on NB I15 going up to Hollaran Summit where the issue has shown itself almost reliably. Basically the throttle becomes semi non responsive.

I'll be cruising along around 80 mph and then it kind of just slowly starts losing power. Doesn't fully cut out on me but will only rev up to around 3k rpm and if i stomp the pedal to the floor it just doesn't try to go any faster and will gradually decelerate to about 65 or so going up that hill. The first couple of times I pulled off at an exit and when i get to a stop sign or something and try to go again it almost won't go at all. I have either just shut of the car or shifted in to park or something and then it works normally again.

Happened again last night. It went away at first but then came back and persisted most of the way in to vegas then it was fine again.

My theory is that it's sucking some sediment from the tank in to the fuel system or something and maybe all i need is some fuel injector cleaner or something.  Could this be something way worse? What the hell is wrong with my car?
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Do you have a Nissan CVT transmission?
If the answer is yes, you might be looking at two things. 
1. total replacement of transmission
2. total replacement of transmission
2/20/2017 5:51:26 PM EDT
[#12]
You need the auxiliary CVT fluid cooler. Go to a Nissan dealer, there is a TSB and they should be familiar.
2/20/2017 5:52:47 PM EDT
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Do you have a Nissan CVT transmission?
If the answer is yes, you might be looking at two things. 
1. total replacement of transmission
2. total replacement of transmission
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Yeah
2/20/2017 5:53:22 PM EDT
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2. catalytic converter




Another time was having dead/sluggish throttle at times, little or no acceleration.  That was the cat.  
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If you've ever run out of gas, it might just be the converter.
2/20/2017 5:54:11 PM EDT
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Only power train warranty now.

Would those show up with the code readers they use at autozone for free since there is no idiot light or are you talking about a more sophisticated scan?
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You can have codes that are pending in the system. They won't show a CEL, but a scanner from a parts store can see the ones in pending status.
2/20/2017 6:03:36 PM EDT
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If you've ever run out of gas, it might just be the converter.
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Never run it out of gas.
2/20/2017 6:03:42 PM EDT
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It is possible for "sediment" to be the problem but it will be in one of the filters. As the engine runs, dirt is sucked up against the fuel filter element and held there by fuel flow, more and more over time. When the engine stops the dirt falls away until the cycle repeats. When you need the increased fuel supply you get up the hill it may begin to starve. This is actually less likely than other causes but a fuel filter change is a cheap maintenance item that should be done periodically anyway.

I would also look at the Mass Airflow Sensor. Not cheap, and it is possible to clean them sometimes but it is a very likely culprit with those symptoms.
2/20/2017 6:05:04 PM EDT
[#18]
Fetzer valve, replace it. YouTube has a video on how to do it.
2/20/2017 6:06:42 PM EDT
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Do you have a Nissan CVT transmission?
If the answer is yes, you might be looking at two things. 
1. total replacement of transmission
2. total replacement of transmission
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Beat me to it. Damn thing has a CVT which is why I bought a Sportage instead which turned out to be really a great decision. Maybe you can get by with a fluid change (special fluid, $$$) but most likely the above is correct. If you still have power train warranty you should be okay. Fingers crossed.
2/20/2017 6:15:09 PM EDT
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Beat me to it. Damn thing has a CVT which is why I bought a Sportage instead which turned out to be really a great decision. Maybe you can get by with a fluid change (special fluid, $$) but most likely the above is correct. If you still have power train warranty you should be okay. Fingers crossed.
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just had the tranny fluid changed not long ago, i think 30 or 35k. It's at 42k now.
2/20/2017 6:41:05 PM EDT
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You need the auxiliary CVT fluid cooler. Go to a Nissan dealer, there is a TSB and they should be familiar.
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i think you are on to it with this, nissan infinity car owners forum seems to confirm. It is a fail safe mode from tranny overheating.

I guess i'll be a bit less of a racecar driver up long hills and maybe stop for a bite of food in baker and let the car cool down a bit more before tackling the hill.

and look in to the auxillary cooler
2/20/2017 7:05:27 PM EDT
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They probably overfilled the CVT fluid when they changed it which foams and overheats even faster.  

Only use NS2 Nissan fluid, set the fluid level at 80C at the bottom hatch marks.

It needs a cooler if you travel Baker grade regularly.
2/20/2017 7:40:50 PM EDT
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Has anyone mentioned checking the FUEL FILTER????

2/20/2017 7:45:15 PM EDT
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Car doesn't have a fuel filter. A lot of newer cars don't have them.
2/20/2017 8:41:35 PM EDT
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IIRC all emissions related crap is federally mandated 5yrs/60k miles.
Would be nice to have a real time feed from a scanner and watch what happens as it dies.
2/20/2017 8:45:12 PM EDT
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Car doesn't have a fuel filter. A lot of newer cars don't have them.
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There's got to be some sort of filter somewhere...

Maybe in the fuel pump assembly, in the tank?
2/20/2017 8:53:35 PM EDT
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Car doesn't have a fuel filter. A lot of newer cars don't have them.
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Car doesn't have a fuel filter. A lot of newer cars don't have them.


Sure it does. All cars do. They put them inside the fuel tank on alot of the new stuff.

I'm going with CVT overheat.
2/20/2017 8:59:48 PM EDT
[#28]
Sell it unless you want to buy a transmission for it
2/20/2017 9:02:07 PM EDT
[#29]
Altenator
2/20/2017 9:11:20 PM EDT
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Do you have a Nissan CVT transmission?
If the answer is yes, you might be looking at two things. 
1. total replacement of transmission
2. total replacement of transmission
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This is the answer. CVT's are kind of a pain in the ass.
2/20/2017 9:36:59 PM EDT
[#31]
If it used to shift in and out of O/D when going up those long grades back when it ran normally, the torque converter / transmission might finally be burned out.
2/20/2017 9:48:02 PM EDT
[#32]
http://www.nissanassist.com/ProgramDetails.php?menu=2

Start reading up OP. Make sure you have a dealer you trust. Looking like you need a transmission.

We replace them all of the time. Out of pocket is 4000-6000k depending on awd and trans cost.
2/20/2017 9:51:42 PM EDT
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There's got to be some sort of filter somewhere...

Maybe in the fuel pump assembly, in the tank?
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There's a fuel strainer which is not a fuel filter.


Some cars (Toyota Rav4) have an actual fuel filter in the pump assembly to go along with the strainer, but this particular car does not.
2/20/2017 10:03:39 PM EDT
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Sounds like another case of a CVT shitting the bed IMO. Even in small cars driving on flat ground they go bad quite regularly, add in heavier vehicle weight and steep inclines then you have even more issues.

This is why I will own only normal autos and manual cars. The DSG trans in alot of the fords are a big problem too.

Best part about the CVTs is no one rebuilds them AFAIK so your choices are either junkyard (which is a gamble) or new (shit ton of money).
2/20/2017 10:40:50 PM EDT
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You need the auxiliary CVT fluid cooler. Go to a Nissan dealer, there is a TSB and they should be familiar.
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Any idea on cost for parts and labor on that or if it's something warranty would cover? Seems a little fucking retarded that i can't drive up hills
2/21/2017 11:13:59 AM EDT
[#36]
Same uphill issues
2/22/2017 8:12:06 PM EDT
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They probably overfilled the CVT fluid when they changed it which foams and overheats even faster.  

Only use NS2 Nissan fluid, set the fluid level at 80C at the bottom hatch marks.

It needs a cooler if you travel Baker grade regularly.
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Yeah i think it's overfilled. Just check after only going around the block and the level was all the way to the full line. It should only be around 3/4 between the two notches. I am sure when it's actually good and hot it expands even more. Fluid still looked and smelled ok.
2/22/2017 8:34:55 PM EDT
[#38]
Get a Bluetooth OBD double and check the tranny  temp when going uphill.
2/25/2017 5:18:29 PM EDT
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