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2/19/2017 6:29:01 AM EDT
I've been craving fish lately and have very little wild fish in the freezer.
I've gotten cod, pollock, catfish, and tilapia.

I tried the cod and it smelled and tasted fishy as fuck, the pollock smells really fishy so I won't even try cooking it. the catfish is actually fine. a slight muddy but no fishy taste.
what's the deal with this? milk doesn't do a thing for it. it's really strong. I've had cod plenty of times from restaurants or gordon's frozen breaded fillets and never had this issue.
I have yet to try the tilapia, but this will be my first time even trying tilapia.
is this an issue with certain species? or is this fish just bad? are some species less likely to be fishy like this?

these are raw frozen individually vacuum sealed fillets in a bag.

I can't wait to take the boat out this summer and catch some actual fresh fish.
buying and eating fish I didn't catch just feels wrong and dirty.
2/19/2017 6:44:35 AM EDT
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I have always wondered why people object to fish tasting like fish. I remember bringing smoked red salmon to a potluck in new Mexico and they didn't want to eat it because "it smelled like fish".  It is fish.  What's it supposed to smell like?

Anyway, skip the tilapia.  They are garbage.  They feed on shit.

Any cod or pollock you buy won't be farmed or fed excrement.
2/19/2017 6:59:22 AM EDT
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if it tastes like fish it's not fresh... that's why people object to it
would you eat rotten smelling hamburger?
2/19/2017 7:01:47 AM EDT
[#3]
They say a craving for fish usually means a protien eficiency.
2/19/2017 7:06:12 AM EDT
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if it tastes like fish it's not fresh... that's why people object to it
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I like pickled herring. I like sashimi.

You sound like a nekulturny tard.
2/19/2017 8:44:53 AM EDT
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It is common knowledge and a proven fact that 75% of the tilapia consumed in this country is from CHINA!!!  On top of the fact that tilapia has absolutely ZERO of the Omega 3 good stuff that is supposed to make fish so healthy, the shit is farm raised.....do some research and see just how seriously bad that is for you!  People, no kidding, stop eating that nasty shit!!!    
2/19/2017 8:54:31 AM EDT
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what's the deal with this? milk doesn't do a thing for it. it's really strong. 
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How long has the fish been in your freezer.  My guess, over 6 months.  That' the problem.  Even frozen the fishy smell and taste grows stronger.  You can throw a steak in the freezer for a year and it is fine but fish doesn't work that way, even vacuum sealed.

I just pulled a package of deer burger out of the freezer, it's about 2 years old.  It had a very strong gamey smell and a slight gamey taste.  It wasn't that way when I froze it or ate the other packages.  Same principle as the fish.  

Since your freezer isn't at absolute zero the product continues to age.  Also depending on your freezer temp it can age much faster.  I read something that for every 5 degrees above zero the product ages twice as fast.  So if your freezer is 10 degrees instead of 0 the shelf life is cut by 75%.  Not sure that I buy those numbers as it seems high but fish over 6 months should be tossed.
2/19/2017 9:04:50 AM EDT
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I have always wondered why people object to fish tasting like fish. I remember bringing smoked red salmon to a potluck in new Mexico and they didn't want to eat it because "it smelled like fish".  It is fish.  What's it supposed to smell like?

Anyway, skip the tilapia.  They are garbage.  They feed on shit.

Any cod or pollock you buy won't be farmed or fed excrement.
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You mean bottom feeders? Where do you think catfish and carp eat? Have you seen what pigs eat? Do you know what bacon tastes like?

OP: Tilapia is good. One of the few fish my wife will eat because it doesn't "taste fishy".

Take out of bag, frozen (don't thaw). Heat oven to whatever the box says. IIRC it's 375. Lay fillets on cookie sheet and cover with desired level of Old Bay. Cook for 11 minutes or until firm.

Easy peasy and tasty.

I've not had much luck with the frozen cod, perch, Pollock. Don't care for the swai.
2/19/2017 5:31:44 PM EDT
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How long has the fish been in your freezer.  My guess, over 6 months.  That' the problem.  Even frozen the fishy smell and taste grows stronger.  You can throw a steak in the freezer for a year and it is fine but fish doesn't work that way, even vacuum sealed.

I just pulled a package of deer burger out of the freezer, it's about 2 years old.  It had a very strong gamey smell and a slight gamey taste.  It wasn't that way when I froze it or ate the other packages.  Same principle as the fish.  

Since your freezer isn't at absolute zero the product continues to age.  Also depending on your freezer temp it can age much faster.  I read something that for every 5 degrees above zero the product ages twice as fast.  So if your freezer is 10 degrees instead of 0 the shelf life is cut by 75%.  Not sure that I buy those numbers as it seems high but fish over 6 months should be tossed.
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all of it I've had has been in the freezer less than a week
2/19/2017 6:45:00 PM EDT
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You mean bottom feeders? Where do you think catfish and carp eat? Have you seen what pigs eat? Do you know what bacon tastes like?

OP: Tilapia is good. One of the few fish my wife will eat because it doesn't "taste fishy".

Take out of bag, frozen (don't thaw). Heat oven to whatever the box says. IIRC it's 375. Lay fillets on cookie sheet and cover with desired level of Old Bay. Cook for 11 minutes or until firm.

Easy peasy and tasty.

I've not had much luck with the frozen cod, perch, Pollock. Don't care for the swai.
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I have always wondered why people object to fish tasting like fish. I remember bringing smoked red salmon to a potluck in new Mexico and they didn't want to eat it because "it smelled like fish".  It is fish.  What's it supposed to smell like?

Anyway, skip the tilapia.  They are garbage.  They feed on shit.

Any cod or pollock you buy won't be farmed or fed excrement.


You mean bottom feeders? Where do you think catfish and carp eat? Have you seen what pigs eat? Do you know what bacon tastes like?

OP: Tilapia is good. One of the few fish my wife will eat because it doesn't "taste fishy".

Take out of bag, frozen (don't thaw). Heat oven to whatever the box says. IIRC it's 375. Lay fillets on cookie sheet and cover with desired level of Old Bay. Cook for 11 minutes or until firm.

Easy peasy and tasty.

I've not had much luck with the frozen cod, perch, Pollock. Don't care for the swai.


Better read the label on your tilapia.  If it's from China, it's raised on human shit and chemicals!  If it's from the USA, it's raised on by products and chemicals!  I'm no health nut but that is some truly bad stuff!    
2/19/2017 6:58:09 PM EDT
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How long has the fish been in your freezer.  My guess, over 6 months.  That' the problem.  Even frozen the fishy smell and taste grows stronger.  You can throw a steak in the freezer for a year and it is fine but fish doesn't work that way, even vacuum sealed.

I just pulled a package of deer burger out of the freezer, it's about 2 years old.  It had a very strong gamey smell and a slight gamey taste.  It wasn't that way when I froze it or ate the other packages.  Same principle as the fish.  

Since your freezer isn't at absolute zero the product continues to age.  Also depending on your freezer temp it can age much faster.  I read something that for every 5 degrees above zero the product ages twice as fast.  So if your freezer is 10 degrees instead of 0 the shelf life is cut by 75%.  Not sure that I buy those numbers as it seems high but fish over 6 months should be tossed.
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We have all kinds of fish in the freezer. 
None of them get the fishy smell.
Some are closing in on 2yrs in the freezer and the only thing we do is trim a bit of the freezer burn off.

Wild game will get gamey if there is any fat on it.

Wasting fish if you throw it out after 6 months.
2/19/2017 7:02:13 PM EDT
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I pick up flash frozen Basa every 2 weeks from the Asian market down the road.
It's delicious and not smelly at all.
Vietnamese catfish is what it really is, but no fucks given.

Obligatory recipe...

http://www.dinner-mom.com/lemony-baked-basa/
2/19/2017 7:11:27 PM EDT
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Fresh fish is the main reason I miss living in Alaska....but even frozen halibut is awesome this way:

http://southernalaskaseafood.com/2015/05/13/halibut-olympia/
2/19/2017 7:32:08 PM EDT
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You mean bottom feeders? Where do you think catfish and carp eat? Have you seen what pigs eat? Do you know what bacon tastes like?

OP: Tilapia is good. One of the few fish my wife will eat because it doesn't "taste fishy".

Take out of bag, frozen (don't thaw). Heat oven to whatever the box says. IIRC it's 375. Lay fillets on cookie sheet and cover with desired level of Old Bay. Cook for 11 minutes or until firm.

Easy peasy and tasty.

I've not had much luck with the frozen cod, perch, Pollock. Don't care for the swai.
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Tilapia is disgusting. Watch the Dirty Jobs episode about fish farming...the tilapia eats the bass shit after they transfer bass. And that is in the United States. Who KNOWS what the tilapia eats in China.
2/19/2017 7:37:04 PM EDT
[#14]
I love fish.  Just wish I lived in an area that had fresh fish. 
2/19/2017 7:48:52 PM EDT
[#15]
Catch more fish in the summer. Freeze.
2/19/2017 8:03:06 PM EDT
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I can't tell much of a difference between types of fish, but I was also told find what you like and stick with it.  Pretty much Salmon all the time when I eat fish.
2/19/2017 8:11:08 PM EDT
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Tilapia is disgusting. Watch the Dirty Jobs episode about fish farming...the tilapia eats the bass shit after they transfer bass. And that is in the United States. Who KNOWS what the tilapia eats in China.
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You know what they eat in China.

We can buy fresh, wild, and local nile perch(tilapia) around here.  Guy get them out of lakes and retention ponds.  Very cheap.  Even these don't have much taste.  I prefer mullet and catfish for cheap and flavorful fish.  I don't buy any fish/seafood that is farm raised.
2/19/2017 8:12:19 PM EDT
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I do not eat Tilapia any longer since I saw a Dirty Jobs episode. Mike was working in a fish farm cleaning out a trout tank. He asked what they did with the trout shit and the guy said that they feed it to the Tilapia Also I do not eat fish from China.
2/19/2017 8:15:55 PM EDT
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Your best option for frozen fish are dolphin, tuna, and salmon.  These are the best opportunity to go from fresh to frozen in the shortest time possible.
2/19/2017 8:25:04 PM EDT
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Wally's has decent frozen salmon fillets for a decent price. I've seen bags with both skin on and skinless. Those bags are great for a simple salmon ceasar dinner. Depending on your family size, a $10 bag can provide 2-4 dinners.

They're in a blue bag in the freezer with the shrimp. After that just grab some romaine lechunga, crutons, a lemon or two and a bottle of Newman's own creamy ceasar dressing. You're fucking set. Grab some garlic knots too if you want. I don't give a shit. Those ones in the mylar bag are great browned in the oven.

Nothing extravagant, I'm talkin simple "get off work at 4:30 then gotta take the kids to Krav Maga then stop at the credit union on the way home to deposit a refunded child support payment because my first son who I've literally only seen once in my life is now nine years old's mother is in jail at the moment so Utah keeps refunding payment while the skanky bitch is in jail" kind of simple.
2/19/2017 8:35:05 PM EDT
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Agree with this..  Although I can deal with bass that has been frozen..   But cod is terrible after it has been frozen, and cod is one of my favorite fish,  I go to nj a couple times a month and will stop at a co-op for fresh cod to take home. 
2/19/2017 8:42:16 PM EDT
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Where in IA are you OP? If your in the metro DSM area, hit either the new Hy-vee in Ankeny or the new one in Urbandale, they bring in fresh fish every other day. The quality at these to stores are far better than the older ones.
2/19/2017 8:46:40 PM EDT
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90 percent of your seafood is from China.....

Most likely your Cod is from China.
2/19/2017 8:48:06 PM EDT
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Most of these species are either domestic of from South America... They have a much better record when it comes to food safety.
2/19/2017 9:16:58 PM EDT
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Frost free freezer?

Trash it all.

Long term storage of frozen food (especially  'delicate stuff' like fish) must be in a plain old NON-frost free freezer in vacuum sealed bags.
2/19/2017 9:31:45 PM EDT
[#26]
Don't get anything farm raised. The pools they are raised in are just allowed to accumulate the filth of each batch.
2/19/2017 9:47:56 PM EDT
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Throw away fish after two weeks?  Maybe 2 hundred years.  Boil it all up with potatoes or onions and dill and butter and HOT SAUCE and spices of.... Serve as a soup/stew with riced potato "tortillas"(lefsa).  Uffers good stuff.
2/19/2017 9:57:31 PM EDT
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I fish a lot, probably at least half the weekends out of the year. We spend almost every weekend at our home on a lake. I used to vac seal but went back to gallon baggies with fillets submerged in water. Completely submerged, as in getting all the air out. Most of the fish are white bass, crappie, with a few blue cats mixed in and I fry almost all of them. I've found them to be very good up to a year when hot, fresh out of the grease. All the frozen fish (leftovers) seem tough and chewy after a night in the fridge.
2/19/2017 10:04:36 PM EDT
[#29]
Haddock. It doesn't taste or smell very "fishy."
2/19/2017 10:37:33 PM EDT
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We have all kinds of fish in the freezer. 
None of them get the fishy smell.
Some are closing in on 2yrs in the freezer and the only thing we do is trim a bit of the freezer burn off.

Wild game will get gamey if there is any fat on it.

Wasting fish if you throw it out after 6 months.
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How long has the fish been in your freezer.  My guess, over 6 months.  That' the problem.  Even frozen the fishy smell and taste grows stronger.  You can throw a steak in the freezer for a year and it is fine but fish doesn't work that way, even vacuum sealed.

I just pulled a package of deer burger out of the freezer, it's about 2 years old.  It had a very strong gamey smell and a slight gamey taste.  It wasn't that way when I froze it or ate the other packages.  Same principle as the fish.  

Since your freezer isn't at absolute zero the product continues to age.  Also depending on your freezer temp it can age much faster.  I read something that for every 5 degrees above zero the product ages twice as fast.  So if your freezer is 10 degrees instead of 0 the shelf life is cut by 75%.  Not sure that I buy those numbers as it seems high but fish over 6 months should be tossed.
We have all kinds of fish in the freezer. 
None of them get the fishy smell.
Some are closing in on 2yrs in the freezer and the only thing we do is trim a bit of the freezer burn off.

Wild game will get gamey if there is any fat on it.

Wasting fish if you throw it out after 6 months.

I've eaten enough bad fish that I'm not going to keep it if it looks or smells bad.  I soak my fish in a salt water brine a minimum 24 hours before vacuum sealing.  So any fishy taste has to come from freezer age.  I've even given away some 1 to 2 year old fish and had the guy tell me it had a really strong fishy taste.  My freezer stays about 5 degrees.  The freezer is a frost free freezer which I'm told will dry out frozen items faster.  
2/19/2017 10:42:55 PM EDT
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Which is why I don't eat much seafood these days, even though I love it. Just not worth it. 
2/21/2017 10:09:12 PM EDT
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Which is why I don't eat much seafood these days, even though I love it. Just not worth it. 
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I thought there was ocean front property in Arizona? No?