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2/3/2017 6:04:04 PM EDT
I'm looking to get the empire strikes back and return of the Jedi on DVD, but before the terrible remaster versions.

Are they available?  What do the inserts look like?  I know the remaster ones have silver or gold trim.

I just don't want the changed ewok song that was in the new versions.
2/3/2017 6:08:14 PM EDT
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Good luck finding the non-fucked up ones. All the ones I have on DVD/Blue-ray are the fucked up ones. And yes I have many sets that I have collected over the years.
2/3/2017 6:12:18 PM EDT
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I think the only option for pre-remastered is on VHS.
2/3/2017 6:12:50 PM EDT
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Yes, they are available. They came out back about 2006 time frame. I bought all three off eBay. They are out there, but they are not cheap. Anywhere from $35 -$100 each. 

Make sure you don't buy anything but Zone 1 because there are European and Asian ones out there which will not work on your DVD player.

Search for "Star Wars Theatrical Version DVD"
2/3/2017 6:13:46 PM EDT
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The Original Trilogy released for Blue Ray and DVD are all the Special Edition with the CGI adds and all. I believe the last time it was released in the original theatrical versions without the computer graphics were on VHS. These ones, if I remember correctly...


I do keep hearing rumors from time to time that Disney might release the original footage, but I haven't seen anything concrete yet.
2/3/2017 6:15:30 PM EDT
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You're looking for the 2006 sets

2/3/2017 6:15:59 PM EDT
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Also, watch out for bootlegs because there are a lot of those out there too. 
2/3/2017 6:17:32 PM EDT
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The Original Trilogy released for Blue Ray and DVD are all the Special Edition with the CGI adds and all. I believe the last time it was released in the original theatrical versions without the computer graphics were on VHS. These ones, if I remember correctly...
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I do keep hearing rumors from time to time that Disney might release the original footage, but I haven't seen anything concrete yet.
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2/3/2017 6:17:52 PM EDT
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You are incorrect.

ETA: Have the wrong link, BRB.

ETA#2 SW Original Version
2/3/2017 6:19:34 PM EDT
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They also released "Special Edition" DVDs that had the original unaltered movies as special features on them. I have those.

The problem with them is that the original unaltered movies are considered to be "tack on" items and they are in permanent letterbox 4:3 aspect ratio with shitty audio encoding (meaning if you viewed them on a HDTV there is a black border all around the low def movie, top bottom left and right as it is a letterboxed 4:3 image).
2/3/2017 6:19:47 PM EDT
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Yes, they are available. They came out back about 2006 time frame. I bought all three off eBay. They are out there, but they are not cheap. Anywhere from $35 -$100 each. 

Make sure you don't buy anything but Zone 1 because there are European and Asian ones out there which will not work on your DVD player.

Search for "Star Wars Theatrical Version DVD"
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I didn't know that. I did hear that some entrepreneur was going through and reconstructing the despecialized edition for DVD, but that it wasn't officially licensed by Fox. More of a bootleg sort of thing, but just cleaned up. Is that what you got? 
2/3/2017 6:20:38 PM EDT
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The Original Trilogy released for Blue Ray and DVD are all the Special Edition with the CGI adds and all. I believe the last time it was released in the original theatrical versions without the computer graphics were on VHS. These ones, if I remember correctly...
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61Qa4TlSdwL._SY445_.jpg

I do keep hearing rumors from time to time that Disney might release the original footage, but I haven't seen anything concrete yet.
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Technically those aren't the original theatrically version. They fixed some things digitally but they don't have the extra scenes. They're as close as your going to get.
IIRC they have been released on DVD. I think they're the version used on the sets mentioned already.
2/3/2017 6:20:49 PM EDT
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Why DVD, BR, or VHS?

Go online and check out the de-Specialized editions.
2/3/2017 6:28:17 PM EDT
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Technically those aren't the original theatrically version. They fixed some things digitally but they don't have the extra scenes. They're as close as your going to get.
IIRC they have been released on DVD. I think they're the version used on the sets mentioned already.
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Ok, I think I'm caught up on this thread now, and I saw where it was mentioned. I never knew about that specific DVD release. Imagine that.
2/3/2017 6:37:40 PM EDT
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Why DVD, BR, or VHS?

Go online and check out the de-Specialized editions.
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This. Pretty sure iTunes (and maybe Amazon) has the originals in pure HD.
2/3/2017 6:42:29 PM EDT
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I didn't know that. I did hear that some entrepreneur was going through and reconstructing the despecialized edition for DVD, but that it wasn't officially licensed by Fox. More of a bootleg sort of thing, but just cleaned up. Is that what you got? 
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Yes, they are available. They came out back about 2006 time frame. I bought all three off eBay. They are out there, but they are not cheap. Anywhere from $35 -$100 each. 

Make sure you don't buy anything but Zone 1 because there are European and Asian ones out there which will not work on your DVD player.

Search for "Star Wars Theatrical Version DVD"
I didn't know that. I did hear that some entrepreneur was going through and reconstructing the despecialized edition for DVD, but that it wasn't officially licensed by Fox. More of a bootleg sort of thing, but just cleaned up. Is that what you got? 

I got the 2006 official releases shown above. 
2/3/2017 6:45:47 PM EDT
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Yeah, I have these. There's a problem with the originals. They're non-anamorphic widescreen, so guess what, when you play the DVD on your fancy HDTV, it's going to be windowboxed. Meaning it's going to have black bars on top and sides. You can maybe use your TV to zoom, and make the picture fill the whole screen, but it's basically VHS quality. Woohoo.

I haven't watched the theatrical versions in a long time, because the only version available looks like shit on an HDTV.
2/3/2017 6:47:36 PM EDT
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Think I have them on Laser Disc around here somewhere.
2/3/2017 6:49:01 PM EDT
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Why Disney can't release the originals
2/3/2017 6:50:01 PM EDT
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Get harmys despecialized editions. Remastered to hd from a variety of sources without all the shit in them.

I can certainly see the resolution difference between some of the content added in from laser disc but it's the best you'll find.
2/3/2017 6:51:29 PM EDT
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Just FYI, they are unauthorized (illegal) bootlegs. Don't get them if you have a problem with that.
2/3/2017 6:53:05 PM EDT
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They are not too easy to find and they had a way they covered their ass, you are supposed to own one of the versions and then it's fine to have...
2/3/2017 6:56:53 PM EDT
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Me too, but no working player anymore.
2/3/2017 6:57:36 PM EDT
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You are incorrect.

ETA: Have the wrong link, BRB.

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Fuuuck, $115!!!
2/3/2017 6:58:13 PM EDT
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They are not too easy to find and they had a way they covered their ass, you are supposed to own one of the versions and then it's fine to have...
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In their legal opinion. Which probably isn't worth much.
2/3/2017 6:59:14 PM EDT
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Save your money. You won't like the video or audio quality. I should sell my copies. I had no idea they were going for so much.
2/3/2017 7:11:04 PM EDT
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Disney would make a KILLING if they released the unaltered originals on BluRay/4K, but I doubt they can due to some BS in the contract