[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Chinese stuff...Have you noticed (Page 1 of 4)
Posted: 1/28/2017 11:19:52 AM EDT
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How many people are against this stuff and feel you should buy American.....UNLESS they are buying it and saving a few bucks on the cheap Chinese labor.
So how about you? Will you buy American if it's 20% more or are you going to vote with your wallet and buy the Chinese produced stuff and save a couple dollars? 
Just some food for thought |
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I buy US made whenever possible and practical.
If the two are side by side in the store and US made is 10% more, I will buy it. If I have to drive 100 miles for a US made product, I will buy the import and Home Depot. Every little bit helps but it doesn't run my life. |
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I buy American as much as possible, with two exceptions.
One is union-made goods. Fuck unions. I check for union labels, and buy Chinese instead if I find one. Two is single use items that are expensive. An odd-ball tool that I'll use on a car one time and likely never need again is $5 at HF and $40 at Snap-On. |
| I'll buy the highest quality product that I can afford at the time. I'm currently replacing almost all of my tools that I bought at Home Depot/lowes in my 20s. I'm replacing them with German made tools since most high quality us made tools seem to be insanely expensive. |
| I try not buy Chinese crap whenever I can. That being said, the Chinese make what they are paid to. A ten dollar power tool is crap, weather it serves you well or not. It serves you well because you don't use it much or heavily. And you like it because it was so cheap. |
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LOL
Made in America, with global materials So they put the lable on it here and call it Made in America? |
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So what does "global materials" mean? Could it be they import all the Chinese manufactured components and assemblem in the US? Off to look up "global materials" marking on Google |
| Several years ago I was buying parts for a new Harley and I sometimes went on ebay and bought the cheaper, Chinese, chrome parts for it. It usually took less than a year for the chrome to start peeling off and that is when I decided that I was willing to pay more for quality parts. I am afraid that most electronics, like the led strip lights I installed in a safe last week, are almost all made across the pond. I could be wrong and if I am I would be willing to pay a few dollars more for the home brewed. |
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I'm going to keep getting my cheap Chinese plastic tarps from HF for tossing under my car when I'm changing oil.
Not gonna spend a lot of money on American made tarps when I pretty much just toss 'em out after they get nasty.... Other things will be American made if it makes sense. |
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We owe a great deal of our quality of life to the fact that we can buy goods made by kids in other countries for half what they would cost in the US.
I buy US on some big ticket items, but a trip to Walmart for durable goods would probably cost twice as much if every t-shirt and flat screen TV was made in the US, leaving you with less ability to buy as much stuff at the end of the day. |
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So what does "global materials" mean? Could it be they import all the Chinese manufactured components and assemblem in the US? Off to look up "global materials" marking on Google Imported components assembled in the United States, there is also "value added" in the United States. Bought a "USA Made" water pump water pump from a supplier years ago, it failed, they replaced it and sent me a Chinese one... everything including the part numbers was the same except the China one had an extra boss. Same pumps, they were milling off the extra boss in the USA and selling it as USA Made, all legal and within the law. Bought a grinding face shield, "Made in the USA" - the bag and packaging was, contents 100% China. |
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A lot of their stuff is made in china. |
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So what did we do before the onslaught of chineses garbage and Walmart? Before the onslaught of Chinese garbage, the US made cheap garbage and exported it around the world, using child labor. Countries go through phases of maturity, the same as individuals. The Chinese are at the same stage that the US was at in the latter 19th century. China copies movies, the 19th century US copied books, The British complained about copyright violations then, the same as the US does now. People just don't know history, or karma. |
| I try to buy first world products. I prefer US made, but I have no qualms about buying from Canada, Europe, Australia, NZ, etc. I figure first world workers are all pretty much in the same boat as far as cheap foreign labor and job loss. That being said, it isn't always easy to find what you're looking for. China rules consumer electronics, small appliances, and most basic household goods. |
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I buy made in USA whenever possible even at a much higher price point.
My Webber grill is 3-4 times the price of the cheaper options. But it lasts and is repairable should you need to fix or replace something in the future. Redwing (have to check the label, Danner, Thorogood boots, Armstrong, Klein, and other USA tools. There are lots of great choices out there but we live in a me me me throw away society. |
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So what did we do before the onslaught of chineses garbage and Walmart? Bought the cheap Japanese crap. Before that bought the cheap Made in the USA crap. Everybody goes through the 'making crap' stage before they produce quality goods. The US just went one step too far in deciding to focus on high end/quality goods... then sent almost all manufacturing off shore to focus on technology development. Time to make use of all that technology and redevelop our own manufacturing base in all product lines - small parts to behemoth machines. Make it smarter, better, cheaper. |
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LOL at those typing all this on their Apple IPhones computers made in China.
----------- Bottom line: smart use of money. Some things don't matter where they're made so buy cheaper. Some things you need quality so you get the best you can afford. Value vs. price. A wise man will stretch every penny. |
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I drive a Ford Ranger made in Minnesota, carry a Bench made, carry a Smith and Wesson, wear a Rolex (Swiss), my phone is made in china,so is my laptop.
Products made in the states when practical. Unfortunately many of the things I need and use daily arent made here. I think it will and must be incremental. We as Americans are used to the latest and greatest gadgets and gizmos. A lesson to be learned from our parents and grand parents is to buy quality, use til worn out and no longer functioning the replace with quality. We got use to having the latest smart phone model, my flip phone worked til I dropped it. The best cooler (Yeti, Rtic etal) when the old Cloeman steel belted keeps ice cold as long as i need it to. Most of my hand tools are made in the US and are 30+ years old. Those that arent US made are from Germany or Switzerland. We need to learn to do with out and make do with less. Quality will help acomplish this. Cheaper in the long run also. |
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Most new American made guns are made of cheap materials.
Most new Chinese guns are made of quality forgings, however the workmanship is often lacking. But with a Chinese gun, you can have a fine firearm if you send it to a decent gunsmith. But there's nothing you can do when you start with a cheap gun with inferior materials. |
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I buy US made whenever possible and practical. If the two are side by side in the store and US made is 10% more, I will buy it. If I have to drive 100 miles for a US made product, I will buy the import and Home Depot. Every little bit helps but it doesn't run my life. Same here. I try to buy American, but its not always practical. Harbor Freight stuff should be considered disposable. |
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LOL Made in America, with global materials So they put the lable on it here and call it Made in America? Don't be TOO quick to judge. For some items it is IMPOSSIBLE to buy a part made in the USA. For example, memory chips for electronics are pretty much ONLY made in Asia. Now I am not suggesting that DeWalt products need memory chips, but there may be other components that are similarly hard to find being made in America any longer. |
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I paid a premium for the Japanese-built Denon AVR and the original and the replacement were bad. I bought a Chinese-assembled Marantz and noticed just how bad the Japanese-built Denon really was (faulty DACs aside.)
I do care where stuff is made. But at the end of the day, I'm chasing quality for my dollars. I pretty much live by the 'buy once, cry once' rule. However, Ive found that where the product is made isn't always indicative of it's quality. If it's a quality product and it has a little American flag sticker on it, then that's all the better. |