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1/16/2017 10:05:13 AM EDT
I want a better welder. What will this one do?
Can I plug leads in it and do light stick welding ?

Would I be able to run a scratch start tig set up?

Looks like a light duty do all for me for. Couple hundred at the pawn shop

Tell me what I don't know

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1/16/2017 10:06:33 AM EDT
[#1]
dammit, fat thumbs
1/16/2017 10:09:33 AM EDT
[#2]
No.      

That's a mig welder.    You can't tig weld with it.
1/16/2017 10:12:27 AM EDT
[#3]
It has plug in D.C. Leads, why not?

I have a tig torch and gas, do I need something else? Wave form control?
1/16/2017 10:13:35 AM EDT
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No.      

That's a mig welder.    You can't tig weld with it.
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Not true. Not saying it would be practical but being a DC welder it could be done.
1/16/2017 10:15:56 AM EDT
[#5]
I wouldn't want to learn to TIG with a scratch start setup.

A foot pedal is the way to go.

Are you consistent yet with torch welding? Once you get that mastered doing TIG is a piece of cake.

Not sure how easily  you could set that machine up to TIG with, google the model number for a manual.
1/16/2017 10:20:42 AM EDT
[#6]
Get a Multi Process welder from Lincoln and you can tig, mig, and I think arc on the same machine.
1/16/2017 10:22:25 AM EDT
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It has plug in D.C. Leads, why not?

I have a tig torch and gas, do I need something else? Wave form control?
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It looks like a constant voltage (CV)  machine.   You need constant current (CC) for tig/stick.

The DC leads you see are to change the polarity.

However,  I'm not familiar with that machine, and could be wrong.   Does have both CC/CV?
1/16/2017 10:23:45 AM EDT
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1/16/2017 10:29:10 AM EDT
[#9]
Weldingweb is the forum you seek to ask these questions.
1/16/2017 10:37:04 AM EDT
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It looks like a constant voltage (CV)  machine.   You need constant current (CC) for tig/stick.

The DC leads you see are to change the polarity.

However,  I'm not familiar with that machine, and could be wrong.   Does have both CC/CV?
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It has plug in D.C. Leads, why not?

I have a tig torch and gas, do I need something else? Wave form control?


It looks like a constant voltage (CV)  machine.   You need constant current (CC) for tig/stick.

The DC leads you see are to change the polarity.

However,  I'm not familiar with that machine, and could be wrong.   Does have both CC/CV?


This^ is the kind of info I need.

I'm hoping someone who has experience with this machine pops up, I've had a hard time figuring out the model and finding a manual, plus I don't know enough.

I've had an AC stick and a cheap ass crappy mig for years; my neighbor has a nice TIG  he lets me play with. I would like a better mig, and to be able to run the tig torch I picked up as a scratch start to do simple stuff like pin muzzle brakes and other light duty stuff. It would be nice to not have to cart stuff next door, unlock all his stuff, and use his gas to do a small job.

I'm also wondering if you could unplug the mig, plug in leads and use it as a light DC stick.
1/16/2017 10:47:02 AM EDT
[#11]
Garbage.

Miller or Lincoln.

Esab in a pinch.
1/16/2017 11:11:35 AM EDT
[#12]
Couple things:

#1 Does where you intend to be welding have a 220v or only 120v outlets? If 220v, do you have the correct plugs on the walls and the correct amp breaker? Can the panel its tied to support the welder? If only 120v outlets either A. buy a 120v welder or B have someone put in a 220v outlet.

#2 Stick with the name brand welders; Hobart, Lincoln, Miller.

#3 Try not to buy used unless its from a friend or you are totally confident in the welder.

#4 figure out before buying if you intend to MIG or TIG.

#5 Figure out before hand what kindof gas mixture you will be running. Because Tanks get expensive quick.

I run a Hobart 140 running solid core wire and 100% co2. I usually weld mild steel and other things involved in typical motor-vehicle repair and farming. Its been 100% for me i can crank it up and weld thick steel if i need be as well. Ive welded a few roll cages using HREW structural steel with it as well.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200471413_200471413?cm_mmc=Google-pla&utm_source=Google_PLA&utm_medium=Welding%20%3E%20MIG%20%2B%20Flux%20Core%20Welding&utm_campaign=Hobart&utm_content=15165&cm_mmc=Google-pla&utm_source=google_PLA&utm_campaign=&mkwid=sVqp8Bl35&pcrid=39155627516&devicetype=c&gclid=Cj0KEQiA-_HDBRD2lomhoufc1JkBEiQA0TVMmuxR93w1SXko9Bt58jiTmDcOpRjoQwC1mBPfKjqFFaAaAi2f8P8HAQ
1/16/2017 11:45:57 AM EDT
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The machine in question is 120v, My shop is a 150amp panel on an 80' run of #6, the welding table is supported by #10/3 romex on a 20amp breaker, and a fused 220 drops directly out of the panel to support my Lincoln AC.

I am asking about the particular machine because it is available at a pawn shop for a price I can afford and it might be capable of doing what I want.

My alternative is a $200 DC Inverter from harbor freight, I don't have a budget for Hobarts and such, or a real TIG.

I am looking at this one because: It is DC, and appears that you could unplug the MIG leads and plug in other things, like DC stick, and possibly a scratch TIG torch, and it would be an upgrade MIG from the cheap ass Campbell Hausfield I currently have.

My question is; will it support a tig torch( I have everything back to the gas regulator, including helium and argon bottles, just no power source)

This is a low buck, make do, patch together operation by someone on a limited budget, using stuff I inherited or picked up over time for a few bucks used  from yard sales and pawn shops.

Can it be done? I KNOW it's not ideal, and that there are better options, but this is what I can do, right now.
1/16/2017 11:52:22 AM EDT
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The machine in question is 120v, My shop is a 150amp panel on an 80' run of #6, the welding table is supported by #10/3 romex on a 20amp breaker, and a fused 220 drops directly out of the panel to support my Lincoln AC.

I am asking about the particular machine because it is available at a pawn shop for a price I can afford and it might be capable of doing what I want.

My alternative is a $200 DC Inverter from harbor freight, I don't have a budget for Hobarts and such, or a real TIG.

I am looking at this one because: It is DC, and appears that you could unplug the MIG leads and plug in other things, like DC stick, and possibly a scratch TIG torch, and it would be an upgrade MIG from the cheap ass Campbell Hausfield I currently have.

My question is; will it support a tig torch( I have everything back to the gas regulator, including helium and argon bottles, just no power source)

This is a low buck, make do, patch together operation by someone on a limited budget, using stuff I inherited or picked up over time for a few bucks used  from yard sales and pawn shops.

Can it be done? I KNOW it's not ideal, and that there are better options, but this is what I can do, right now.
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I've used a few 120v machines, the the flux cored Migs do just okay, most of them don't have enough ass for anything other than light work.

I have used the miller portable deal (stick) that will run off either, and on a 120 outlet you can't get much penetration out of it before tripping the circuit protection, those will run a scratch start TIG, but I didn't have a chance to use it, the guy that owned it said he only used the TIG stuff with his 240 outlet.
1/16/2017 11:56:26 AM EDT
[#15]
You need a Hi-Freq box for AL.
Start with a good machine first
1/16/2017 12:04:31 PM EDT
[#16]
You would be better off putting that $200 in your safe every time you have it and think about buying a pawn shop MIG.

Trying to learn a skill when you're already trying to overcome equipment deficiencies is not very productive.