Posted: 12/3/2016 7:00:45 PM EDT
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I ordered a Samsung evo 1tb SSD on monday, I installed the Samsung magician and when the SSD is plugged in the magician says it can't find a samsung SSD. I have a Lenovo P50 and the 2 usb's on the side are 3.0 and the rear is a 3.0 always on. This is the plug I am using
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HJZJI84/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 How can I see if the SSD is bad? Try it on my alienware Laptop? here is the SSD https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OBRFFAS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 |
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us there a USB 2.0 port to try? The cloning software may have an issue with 3.0 I have installed a few EVOs and either used aftermarket cloning software or did a new Windows install. Â Never tried the included sw. No all ports are 3.0. there is nothing on the laptop except webroot. Lenovo didn't send a windows 10 cd or else I would try that way. https://www.servethehome.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Lenovo-ThinkPad-P50-Ports.jpg |
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http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx never fails me, if I want to clone a drive, USB or not.
An award winning disk cloning and imaging solution for free. Protect your personal documents, photos, music and e-mails. Upgrade your hard disk or try new operating systems in the safe knowledge that everything is securely saved in an easily recovered backup file. Macrium Reflect supports backup to local, network and USB drives as well as burning to all DVD formats. This version is for non-commercial home use. Edit: This also works extremely well. https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-USB-DSC9-SATA-Drive-Converter/dp/B00DQJME7Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480808571&sr=8-1&keywords=sabrent usb 3&tag=vglnk-c102-20.0+to+sata+ide+adapter |
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http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx never fails me, if I want to clone a drive, USB or not. Edit: This also works extremely well. https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-USB-DSC9-SATA-Drive-Converter/dp/B00DQJME7Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&&tag=vglnk-c102-20;qid=1480808571&sr=8-1&keywords=sabrent usb 3&tag=vglnk-c102-20.0+to+sata+ide+adapter Thanks guys I just found this video on the youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh4uRhWwZT0 The SSD is connected to the connector I listed in the OP, I thought I had to clone it and then install it. No? It shows up in the disk management and the 1st thing it says is to initialize disk, You must initialize a disk before Logical Disk Manager can acess it. Since I am putting my operating system on it I want to do the MBR correct? |
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The only thing I don't like about the video is he says if cloning there is no back up. Cloning makes a mirror image of one drive onto another drive. It doesn't delete anything. It will be exactly as it was when you had your old HDD installed. Magician may allow you to clone it, but again it has to see the drive. Acronis works well, as well as many other cloning softwares out there. If you're using something like Acronis, which I always use as a boot device (boot to a DVD/USB into Acronis) I install the SSD or whatever drive inside the computer, and use the USB dongle to clone the other drive. |
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If you are cloning the boot drive do not boot up the PC with both the original and cloned drive attached right after cloning. If you do that then Windows will do some updates to the MBR of the secondary drive making it unbootable (I learned this the hard way once). When the cloning software is finished it will say that you should shut down your computer; do just that. Shut it down, do the physical swap, then boot back up without the original attached in any way. It should work seamlessly from there. |
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If you want to clone your existing drive you need to use the Samsung Data Migration software, which is a separate installer from Magician, but should be on the CD included with the drive. For some reason it is not reading that the SSD is hooked up through the usb. |
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Magician is for disk MAINTENANCE, not cloning. When you click the Install software button it should show magician on the left and the cloning software on the right. Hit Start cloning and it will say "Attach Samsung SSD" plug it in and go.
Ive cloned 5 drives to Samsung SSds this week. OOPS. Saw it was already suggested. It doesnt recognise it once you plug it in via USB? Are you sure theres not a power switch to your usb dock? |
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If you are cloning the boot drive do not boot up the PC with both the original and cloned drive attached right after cloning. If you do that then Windows will do some updates to the MBR of the secondary drive making it unbootable (I learned this the hard way once). When the cloning software is finished it will say that you should shut down your computer; do just that. Shut it down, do the physical swap, then boot back up without the original attached in any way. It should work seamlessly from there. This is not true. Samsung migration runs right from windows just fine. |
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Magician is for disk MAINTENANCE, not cloning. When you click the Install software button it should show magician on the left and the cloning software on the right. Hit Start cloning and it will say "Attach Samsung SSD" plug it in and go. Ive cloned 5 drives to Samsung SSds this week. OOPS. Saw it was already suggested. It doesnt recognise it once you plug it in via USB? Are you sure theres not a power switch to your usb dock? No power switch it recognizes everything else I plug in to the usb |
| The software is looking for the samsung device ID which a USB drive cable will not propagate that information through to the system. That particular cloning software will not work for you. Also simply copying all the files over to the drive will not make it bootable. You need to choose different cloning software that isn't tied to looking for a particular type of drive. |
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Is the magician the software you're using to format and clone the drive?
I have a Mushkin Reactor 1TB. I used....i forget the software now. But I cloned it with my main 300GB windows OS drive, and had it do some kind of SSD specific optimization. System wouldn't boot with it, even though it saw it in the bios and windows saw it on the boot menu. Figure there was something wrong with the bootloader on it. So, anyway I formatted it and then put in it my PS4. Got it running the playstation OS, and left it over night to download games and such. Next morning, wouldn't boot up, went into safe mode and basically couldn't see it. So, I have a couple more weeks to return it to Amazon. I need to try some different cloning software for Windows. But, I'm thinking if the PS4 didn't like it, I should probably just return it. They are fast though! Damn fast. |
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Migration. Its good I think I don't need to format the disk right because I am cloning it, right? The software should take care of everything. I haven't done a samsung, but my sandisk ssd used macrium and all I had to do was follow the very simple instructions for cloning the disk. It was dead simple, smooth and much faster than I thought it would be. If the instructions don't tell you to format then don't worry about it. |
| We are up and running. Thank you again everyone and I will say if anyone is looking for a SSD Samsung 850 Evo is great as long as you can see the icons and pick migration. I know they are pricy and I was going to go with the Crucial MX300 1tb becaise it was cheaper but the cyber monday deal for 218 for a samsung 1tb was great and I will more than likely pick up more and swap everything over in my other laptops. Thank you again guys. |
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The sad part is I am a computer and internetworking college student and the classes I have taken haven't taught us shit on how to do this. Thank you guys. It's 37% already You may be surprised what they don't 'teach'. Most useful things are learned from experience. And ARFÂ 
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This is not true. Samsung migration runs right from windows just fine. Quoted:
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If you are cloning the boot drive do not boot up the PC with both the original and cloned drive attached right after cloning. If you do that then Windows will do some updates to the MBR of the secondary drive making it unbootable (I learned this the hard way once). When the cloning software is finished it will say that you should shut down your computer; do just that. Shut it down, do the physical swap, then boot back up without the original attached in any way. It should work seamlessly from there. This is not true. Samsung migration runs right from windows just fine. I know Samsung migration runs fine; my point is that when it gets to the end of the copy process do not reboot the PC with both drives attached, even if you try to switch the boot order in the bios. Shut the PC down and remove the old drive before rebooting windows. |
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You may be surprised what they don't 'teach'. Most useful things are learned from experience. And ARFÂ That is why I transferred schools to a school that specializes in it, I was a digital forensics major and I know shit. It is very depressing knowing I am using months of my GI Bill and I don't even know how to clone a hard drive. |
Sorry, I came in a little late. Computer science type degrees teach programming and stuff. I have been working IT for over five years. The programmers I work with don't even know how to get to the users folder in the root.  . Take some certification courses if you want to learn. Or get a tech job. Good luck.
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Sorry, I came in a little late. Computer science type degrees teach programming and stuff. I have been working IT for over five years. The programmers I work with don't even know how to get to the users folder in the root. . Take some certification courses if you want to learn. Or get a tech job. Good luck.I am in the process of looking for a part time job for when I am school. and the classes at the new school seem to be more focused on CCNA, CCent, and all the other Cisco certs and all the Comptia certs. Should be a very good year. |
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I am in the process of looking for a part time job for when I am school. and the classes at the new school seem to be more focused on CCNA, CCent, and all the other Cisco certs and all the Comptia certs. Should be a very good year. Quoted:
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Sorry, I came in a little late. Computer science type degrees teach programming and stuff. I have been working IT for over five years. The programmers I work with don't even know how to get to the users folder in the root. . Take some certification courses if you want to learn. Or get a tech job. Good luck.I am in the process of looking for a part time job for when I am school. and the classes at the new school seem to be more focused on CCNA, CCent, and all the other Cisco certs and all the Comptia certs. Should be a very good year. Awesome! Great certs. Check out positions at your school, whether student, or staff. They work with your schedule and give opportunities to learn and grow. Keep it up bud. |
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I am in the process of looking for a part time job for when I am school. and the classes at the new school seem to be more focused on CCNA, CCent, and all the other Cisco certs and all the Comptia certs. Should be a very good year. Have you done the A+ stuff yet? That's where you would start learning about basic hardware stuff like this. I've always thought it better to start off IT training at a community college or trade school, which usually teach the lower end hardware and entry level networking stuff, and then transfer to the four year schools for the more advanced networking, system admin and programming courses. Also, just going by your other posts in the other laptop thread, I assume that you are trying to clone the SSD that your Lenovo P50 came with to a newer bigger one, so you don't have to reinstall the whole OS? |
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If you are just cloning a drive, such as a mechanical drive to SSD, then no install (outside of physically installing the drive into the PC). Straight clones are exactly that, a clone and the PC won't know the difference. This isn't true. The cloning software isn't going to work right using a USB bridge to a SATA drive. |
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This isn't true. The cloning software isn't going to work right using a USB bridge to a SATA drive. Quoted:
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If you are just cloning a drive, such as a mechanical drive to SSD, then no install (outside of physically installing the drive into the PC). Straight clones are exactly that, a clone and the PC won't know the difference. This isn't true. The cloning software isn't going to work right using a USB bridge to a SATA drive. Im not sure that I'm understanding what you're trying to say, but if you're saying that you can't clone to an SSD thats in a usb dock, you're wrong. I've done several in a Thermaltake USB 3.0 dock (via 2.0 ports on the PC) and via a Thermaltake USB 2.0 dock and they worked just fine. And for added fun, the clones didnt go into the source PC, but into different PCs (but with the exact same MoBo/CPU/RAM/etc). Easy breezy. |