Posted: 11/15/2016 10:10:52 AM EDT
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I'm trying to spec out new workstations here at work. They'll be using solidworks heavily w/large assemblies (100mb), but very little rendering will be done. At any given time they'll have a bunch of pdfs open, excel, word, office, etc. etc. Nothing extreme.
I have $5k per build. I spec'd out a Dell 7810 as follows: Xeon E5-1650 V4 (6c, 3.6ghz, 2400mhz, 15mb) Nvidia Quadro M4000 (currently using k4000's) 825W Power Supply 2.5" 512 SATA SSD 16gb DDR4 2400mhz That left enough in the pot to slap on (2) 27" Dell IPS ultrasharps. Am I on the right track? Should I be pursuing a PCIE SSD? I haven't built a PC in 7 years, let alone one that's bordering on a mini server. Most of this "newish" stuff is over my head. |
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Even if you do ssd for both drives I think it is worth doing two drives.
Keeps the os drive from going through as many write cycles and should minimally increas longevity and more importantly makes increasing storage to a larger drive down the road quicker and easier. You already have backup covered? Don't do ssd for the backup, cheaper not to and should be more reliable. |
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Even if you do ssd for both drives I think it is worth doing two drives. Keeps the os drive from going through as many write cycles and should minimally increas longevity and more importantly makes increasing storage to a larger drive down the road quicker and easier. You already have backup covered? Don't do ssd for the backup, cheaper not to and should be more reliable. Everything is saved off to servers. The only stuff residing on local drives is software. I have only used 100gb of my hard drive after 5 years. Does that change your opinion at all? |
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You can drop down to the 5810 and spec out the same system to save a little. Even with the spec's you gave I still can't make it $5k after discounting. If you have the room in the pricing bumping up the RAM wouldn't hurt and would guarantee that they are future proofed a little. At that point your network is going to be your biggest limiting factor. What speed is your current network?
How many are you ordering? Have you contacted a Dell rep yet? |
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You can drop down to the 5810 and spec out the same system to save a little. Even with the spec's you gave I still can't make it $5k after discounting. If you have the room in the pricing bumping up the RAM wouldn't hurt and would guarantee that they are future proofed a little. At that point your network is going to be your biggest limiting factor. What speed is your current network? How many are you ordering? Have you contacted a Dell rep yet? $5k includes the two monitors. The two PC's price out to $4,227.16. Add in the full office suite, windows 10, pro support, etc. Dell hasn't been contacted. Our IT team has their ways that won't be broken. Hint: CDW 
Only ordering (2) for now. Kicked up just enough budget crumbs to do it. Edit - Current network? No fucking idea on the specs. |
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You can drop down to the 5810 and spec out the same system to save a little. Even with the spec's you gave I still can't make it $5k after discounting. If you have the room in the pricing bumping up the RAM wouldn't hurt and would guarantee that they are future proofed a little. At that point your network is going to be your biggest limiting factor. What speed is your current network? How many are you ordering? Have you contacted a Dell rep yet? I agree with all these things. |
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I'm trying to spec out new workstations here at work. They'll be using solidworks heavily w/large assemblies (100mb), but very little rendering will be done. At any given time they'll have a bunch of pdfs open, excel, word, office, etc. etc. Nothing extreme. I have $5k per build. I spec'd out a Dell 7810 as follows: Xeon E5-1650 V4 (6c, 3.6ghz, 2400mhz, 15mb) Nvidia Quadro M4000 (currently using k4000's) 825W Power Supply 2.5" 512 SATA SSD 16gb DDR4 2400mhz That left enough in the pot to slap on (2) 27" Dell IPS ultrasharps. Am I on the right track? Should I be pursuing a PCIE SSD? I haven't built a PC in 7 years, let alone one that's bordering on a mini server. Most of this "newish" stuff is over my head. Look to see if there are any M2 SSD capable motherboards. I'd personally put more memory in there. |
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If it were me, I'd be looking at the Dell Precision 7100 Mobile Workstation. I spec'd one out very similar to what you listed in the OP and was able to put 2 monitors on it for a little under $4,600. I added a PCIe 256GB boot drive, a 1TB data drive, and the Xeon is only 2.9GHz.
As an engineer using CAD and electrical design software, I much prefer the laptop. I can take it with me to meetings and show people exactly what I'm talking about. I can do work in the airport and at home. It's much nicer than a desktop. |
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$5k includes the two monitors. The two PC's price out to $4,227.16. Add in the full office suite, windows 10, pro support, etc. Dell hasn't been contacted. Our IT team has their ways that won't be broken. Hint: CDW
Only ordering (2) for now. Kicked up just enough budget crumbs to do it. Edit - Current network? No fucking idea on the specs. Quoted:
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You can drop down to the 5810 and spec out the same system to save a little. Even with the spec's you gave I still can't make it $5k after discounting. If you have the room in the pricing bumping up the RAM wouldn't hurt and would guarantee that they are future proofed a little. At that point your network is going to be your biggest limiting factor. What speed is your current network? How many are you ordering? Have you contacted a Dell rep yet? $5k includes the two monitors. The two PC's price out to $4,227.16. Add in the full office suite, windows 10, pro support, etc. Dell hasn't been contacted. Our IT team has their ways that won't be broken. Hint: CDW
Only ordering (2) for now. Kicked up just enough budget crumbs to do it. Edit - Current network? No fucking idea on the specs. CDW isn't going to be that much better of a choice. Going with Dell if you have a good rep you should be able to get decent discounts. Somewhere in the 30-35% off the starting price. I'm not sure of your company size but I would push back on why they are buying OEM Office from Dell. This is the worst possible license path to go down. At the very least they should be buying Office via O365 or a volume license. That would decrease your costs considerably. |
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CDW isn't going to be that much better of a choice. Going with Dell if you have a good rep you should be able to get decent discounts. Somewhere in the 30-35% off the starting price. I'm not sure of your company size but I would push back on why they are buying OEM Office from Dell. This is the worst possible license path to go down. At the very least they should be buying Office via O365 or a volume license. That would decrease your costs considerably. Quoted:
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You can drop down to the 5810 and spec out the same system to save a little. Even with the spec's you gave I still can't make it $5k after discounting. If you have the room in the pricing bumping up the RAM wouldn't hurt and would guarantee that they are future proofed a little. At that point your network is going to be your biggest limiting factor. What speed is your current network? How many are you ordering? Have you contacted a Dell rep yet? $5k includes the two monitors. The two PC's price out to $4,227.16. Add in the full office suite, windows 10, pro support, etc. Dell hasn't been contacted. Our IT team has their ways that won't be broken. Hint: CDW
Only ordering (2) for now. Kicked up just enough budget crumbs to do it. Edit - Current network? No fucking idea on the specs. CDW isn't going to be that much better of a choice. Going with Dell if you have a good rep you should be able to get decent discounts. Somewhere in the 30-35% off the starting price. I'm not sure of your company size but I would push back on why they are buying OEM Office from Dell. This is the worst possible license path to go down. At the very least they should be buying Office via O365 or a volume license. That would decrease your costs considerably. CDW quoted the build a few hundred more than Dell. I'm hoping Dell will discount for two identical builds. I just got done pushing the issue to buy through Dell on a CC. As for office, we probably have 70 seats. Out of my realm, don't care. Edit - Switching to a 5810 w/ same specs left me enough cash to jump up to 32gb. |
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CDW quoted the build a few hundred more than Dell. I'm hoping Dell will discount for two identical builds. I just got done pushing the issue to buy through Dell on a CC. As for office, we probably have 70 seats. Out of my realm, don't care. Edit - Switching to a 5810 w/ same specs left me enough cash to jump up to 32gb. Quoted:
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You can drop down to the 5810 and spec out the same system to save a little. Even with the spec's you gave I still can't make it $5k after discounting. If you have the room in the pricing bumping up the RAM wouldn't hurt and would guarantee that they are future proofed a little. At that point your network is going to be your biggest limiting factor. What speed is your current network? How many are you ordering? Have you contacted a Dell rep yet? $5k includes the two monitors. The two PC's price out to $4,227.16. Add in the full office suite, windows 10, pro support, etc. Dell hasn't been contacted. Our IT team has their ways that won't be broken. Hint: CDW
Only ordering (2) for now. Kicked up just enough budget crumbs to do it. Edit - Current network? No fucking idea on the specs. CDW isn't going to be that much better of a choice. Going with Dell if you have a good rep you should be able to get decent discounts. Somewhere in the 30-35% off the starting price. I'm not sure of your company size but I would push back on why they are buying OEM Office from Dell. This is the worst possible license path to go down. At the very least they should be buying Office via O365 or a volume license. That would decrease your costs considerably. CDW quoted the build a few hundred more than Dell. I'm hoping Dell will discount for two identical builds. I just got done pushing the issue to buy through Dell on a CC. As for office, we probably have 70 seats. Out of my realm, don't care. Edit - Switching to a 5810 w/ same specs left me enough cash to jump up to 32gb. Take no prisoners when you place the order with Dell. The Precision line has a ton of margin so sqeeze them till they break. Use pricing from HP and tell them that you have no issues switching. You should still look at other Office purchase methods. You would be supprised how much an org can save by not purchasing through OEM's. Maybe enough to get you a big raise. |
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It's kind of hard negotiating with someone who barely speaks English Dude you need a real business rep. If you need help getting in contact with one let me know. If your IT department has just been calling 1800dell your getting hosed. Hell send me the quote and I'll get it quoted for you. |
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Dude you need a real business rep. If you need help getting in contact with one let me know. If your IT department has just been calling 1800dell your getting hosed. Hell send me the quote and I'll get it quoted for you. Quoted:
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It's kind of hard negotiating with someone who barely speaks English Dude you need a real business rep. If you need help getting in contact with one let me know. If your IT department has just been calling 1800dell your getting hosed. Hell send me the quote and I'll get it quoted for you. We're trying and getting the freaking run around. Last email I fired out had 4 people from Dell copied on it. |