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Posted: 6/18/2003 7:47:42 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 7:56:04 AM EDT
September 17, 1908 A passenger that Orville Wright had taken for a flight.
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 7:58:13 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 7:59:14 AM EDT
Icarus?
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 8:03:34 AM EDT
Don't remember exactly when, but I believe the first fatality was a Lt. Selfridge (sp?).
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 8:06:40 AM EDT
Well, could it be 60 A.D., a Roman attempted the first human flight during games organized by Emperor Neron to celebrate his empire.
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 8:09:25 AM EDT
Pilatre de Rozier and a passenger were killed while trying to cross the English Channel in a hot air balloon on June 15th, 1785. That's the earliest I know of.
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 8:14:33 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 8:15:08 AM EDT
This is the one I was referring to ... In 1908, passenger flight took a turn for the worse when the first fatal air crash occurred on September 17. Orville Wright was piloting the plane. Orville Wright survived the crash, but his passenger, Signal Corps Lieutenant Thomas Selfridge, did not. The Wright Brothers had been allowing passengers to fly with them since May 14, 1908.
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 8:18:19 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:
Originally Posted By hound: Icarus?
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You got it.
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[BS2][BS] I dont think so. Unless you actually believe a man can fly with wax and feather wings strapped to his back.
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 8:19:58 AM EDT
I think the veracity of the Icarus incident is in dispute. I'm not sure he qualifies. [:)]
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 8:21:59 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:
Originally Posted By hound: Icarus?
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You got it.
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I thought we were talking about fact...
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 8:29:21 AM EDT
Selfridge was the first fatality of a powered, heavier-than-air craft, but many of the early experimenters were killed. Otto Lilienthal died of injuries from a glider crash in Germany in about 1896.
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[Last Edit: 6/18/2003 8:27:25 AM EDT by Belfry_Express]
Originally Posted By DoubleFeed: It wasn't just any wax. It was a special lightweight carbon composite wax, plus Icarus had experimented with which feathers produced the best undisturbed airflow and thus, the best lift to drag ratio. [:D]
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[LOL] I gotta see Icarus's windtunnel. I wonder if he got laminar flow over the entire chord? NACA, eat your heart out!
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 8:39:55 AM EDT
... No, no, no. Ya'll have it wrong. Icarus' failure was caused by his powerplant. ... If he'd flapped hard and fast enough he would have flown.
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 8:51:01 AM EDT
Hey, Icarus was just following the vectors given to him by ATC.
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 8:51:18 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/18/2003 9:03:59 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Belfry_Express:
Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:
Originally Posted By hound: Icarus?
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You got it.
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[BS2][BS] I dont think so. Unless you actually believe a man can fly with wax and feather wings strapped to his back.
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Well....we do have people on this board that believe that CSI is a reality based show. [bd]
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 9:21:53 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf: ... No, no, no. Ya'll have it wrong. Icarus' failure was caused by his powerplant. ... If he'd flapped hard and fast enough he would have flown.
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Fuel starvation. DrMark
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 12:24:44 AM EDT
Icarus: It was Pre-Ban feathers on a Post-Ban Airframe. Doomed from the start.
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 12:33:28 AM EDT
Originally Posted By illigb:
Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:
Originally Posted By hound: Icarus?
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You got it.
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I thought we were talking about fact...
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Yeah! Damn trick questions anyway.
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 1:09:23 AM EDT
I figured it would be one of Leonardo da Vinci's luckless assistants...
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 8:38:44 AM EDT
Some of you guys should read the White Bull by Fred Saberhagen. After you read that Icarus will be on your mind a lot. And it wasn't a serious answer. As far as I know, his story is not truth, but mythology.
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