Posted: 9/21/2016 1:59:24 PM EDT
FWIW This is the issue I was having. I'm at work now but I was able to get the pistol apart. Thanks to all that helped. 
Here we go. Brand new 22/45 never fired, just brought home. (b-day gift to myself for turning 22, figured it fits)I did a basic function check on it at the store and at my house, everything seemed to function fine. Basically I went to disassemble it, after watching a few youtube videos, realized the bolt stop pin was tight so I tried to reassembly. I never took the rear bolt stop pin out of the gun. (Safety is off in all of these actions.) The bolt sticks to the very rear, about 1/8th of an inch before being caught by the bolt catch. I also have a dead trigger no matter what. Mag in, mag out, The magazine will also often get stuck and will only come out if I push on the top of the mag if I open up the action. And cannot disassemble pistol any further. From the amount of tension on the bolt, the hammer is caught but I can't release the hammer so that I can't disassemble it. I can flick the lever down, and the module comes out about 1/4" out of the backstrap but no further. (when its in this configuration, I noticed the bolt doesn't hang up at all) My gut tells me something is out of place near the hammer, but I can't get to it to see whats going on. Sorry if its confusion, thanks for the help. I'll send it back to ruger if I figure it out soon. Thanks
I'll post a video later on for clarity purposes. I don't think I'm explaining the situation properly. |
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Here we go. Brand new 22/45 never fired, just brought home. (b-day gift to myself for turning 22, figured it fits)I did a basic function check on it at the store and at my house, everything seemed to function fine. Basically I went to disassemble it, realized the bolt stop pin was tight so I tried to reassembly. (Safety is off in all of these actions.) The bolt sticks to the very rear, about 1/8th of an inch before being caught by the bolt catch. I also have a dead trigger no matter what. Mag in, mag out, And cannot disassemble pistol any further. From the amount of tension on the bolt, the hammer is caught but I can't release the hammer so that I can't disassemble it. I can flick the lever down, and the module comes out about 1/4" out of the backstrap but no further. (when its in this configuration, I noticed the bolt doesn't hang up at all) My gut tells me something is out of place near the hammer, but I can't get to it to see whats going on. Sorry if its confusion, thanks for the help. I'll send it back to ruger if I figure it out soon. Thanks I refuse to clean my 22/45 Lite model aside from a little #9 on the slide and a snake down the barrel. It's my only gun that isn't broken down and cleaned regularly 
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Sounds like you didn't catch the hammer strut with the spring.
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Fuck that. I just swill out the chamber when it jams No way jose am i taking that fucker apart!!! I cannot fathom how so many people have trouble with the Ruger pistols. Once you understand the intended arrangement of the parts, it's patently obviously what you need to do to assemble the creature correctly. Taking time to study how the parts need to line up, and how to orient the pistol to insure that happens are the two secrets. I WILL admit the magazine safety is a HUGE pain in the ass, and if I owned one of the models with that feature, it would be INSTANTLY gone. I have owned three different versions of this Ruger pistol. My current one is a .22/45 made BEFORE the magazine safety was added. I have developed my own 'tricks' for reassembling the pistol, and never have any issue getting it back together correctly. (Well, maybe once in twenty times I end up not getting the hammer strut into the mainspring housing cap, and have to swing the mainspring housing out to try it again. )
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| You need to put the floppy pin thing near the hammer in the correct spot when u are putting the pin back in... Hard to explain, but I find that it helps to put it at a 45degree angle pointed up. Poke the hammer up with something thin like a small screwdriver or a pick to get it in the correct spot. Make sure you are doing the correct hokey pokey deal with inserting and removing the magazine while u are Doing everything else. Watch a few YouTube videos that suck less than my explanation, and you'll get it. I used to have to leave mine in pieces for a day or so when I first got it, because it would piss me off and confuse me. Now I can do it pretty quickly even at the range. Good luck, and congrats on buying a fantastic.22 |
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Read my step by step disassembly sticky in the tech forums. It even has pitchers. At least a few of my 29,000+ posts are productive |
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The strut on the hammer must line up with the mainspring or you get what you got.
Watch those videos again with the sound on and your glasses on. Better yet, read the manual. It tells you how to put it back together. I have had a Ruger .22 auto for over 25 years. Sometimes it doesn't line up the first time, but I can do it without directions. |
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I cannot fathom how so many people have trouble with the Ruger pistols. Once you understand the intended arrangement of the parts, it's patently obviously what you need to do to assemble the creature correctly. Taking time to study how the parts need to line up, and how to orient the pistol to insure that happens are the two secrets. I WILL admit the magazine safety is a HUGE pain in the ass, and if I owned one of the models with that feature, it would be INSTANTLY gone. I have owned three different versions of this Ruger pistol. My current one is a .22/45 made BEFORE the magazine safety was added. I have developed my own 'tricks' for reassembling the pistol, and never have any issue getting it back together correctly. (Well, maybe once in twenty times I end up not getting the hammer strut into the mainspring housing cap, and have to swing the mainspring housing out to try it again. )Quoted:
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Fuck that. I just swill out the chamber when it jams No way jose am i taking that fucker apart!!! I cannot fathom how so many people have trouble with the Ruger pistols. Once you understand the intended arrangement of the parts, it's patently obviously what you need to do to assemble the creature correctly. Taking time to study how the parts need to line up, and how to orient the pistol to insure that happens are the two secrets. I WILL admit the magazine safety is a HUGE pain in the ass, and if I owned one of the models with that feature, it would be INSTANTLY gone. I have owned three different versions of this Ruger pistol. My current one is a .22/45 made BEFORE the magazine safety was added. I have developed my own 'tricks' for reassembling the pistol, and never have any issue getting it back together correctly. (Well, maybe once in twenty times I end up not getting the hammer strut into the mainspring housing cap, and have to swing the mainspring housing out to try it again. )This,,,and go visit TandemKross for the parts you need...cheap. TandemKross upgrade kit |
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I'm watching that video right now but this is more of the issue https://youtu.be/YhLME-Ca6B4?t=94 However I have a dead trigger and can't release the hammer. |
| Yeah, that'll happen. the pin is going to be stupid tight the first few (usually only after you say fuck it and just hose it down with CLP and dirty looks afterwards) times. Study on some videos and finish ripping it apart before repeating the pain backwards. It gets easier, either because you figure out the hand jive or you say fuck it and just hose it down with CLP and dirty looks. |
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Quoted: I'm watching that video right now but this is more of the issue https://youtu.be/YhLME-Ca6B4?t=94 However I have a dead trigger and can't release the hammer. Quoted: I'm watching that video right now but this is more of the issue https://youtu.be/YhLME-Ca6B4?t=94 However I have a dead trigger and can't release the hammer. That's the video I watched. I had the same issue with the dead trigger and had to strip the fucker again. I got out the rubber mallet and everything. Just thinking about it pisses me off now. I have to leave this thread and go have a drink. |
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Give it to your wife.
Seriously. I thought about throwing mine away the first time I took it apart. I got pissed and threw it into the bench to storm off and take a shot of Bookers. 5 minutes later I came into the kitchen and see her snap it all back together while watching a YouTube video on how to do it. Must be her small, delicate fingers or something, rather than me raging out and hulksmashing. |
| When the basic tools recommend to strip the gun include a rubber hammer(WTF?!?!?) you know something is wrong. I took mine apart to install some tandemkross parts. After fighting with it for an hour and almost smashing it with a real hammer I will probably never take it apart again. If blasting it with cleaner doesn't get it done I honestly think it would be better for my sanity to just throw the gun in the trash and buy a new one if that ever happens. |
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I'm watching that video right now but this is more of the issue https://youtu.be/YhLME-Ca6B4?t=94 However I have a dead trigger and can't release the hammer. Quoted:
I'm watching that video right now but this is more of the issue https://youtu.be/YhLME-Ca6B4?t=94 However I have a dead trigger and can't release the hammer. Re insert the magazine? |
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I'm watching that video right now but this is more of the issue https://youtu.be/YhLME-Ca6B4?t=94 However I have a dead trigger and can't release the hammer. Re insert the magazine? Tried that. The magazine will also often get stuck and will only come out if I push on the top of the mag if I open up the action. |
| I know how to do it and can, but my fat fingers make getting it lined up difficult. My younger brother can do it in his sleep. I usually wait till he's around to clean the rugers. This new one hasn't been "repaired" yet it's still as screwed up as Ruger built it. I'll get the parts and get it straight eventually. The trigger is as bad as any one I've ever seen. |
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It's really not that bad, especially if you remove the magazine disconnect and put a replacement bushing in. Quoted:
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Fuck that. I just swill out the chamber when it jams No way jose am i taking that fucker apart!!! It's really not that bad, especially if you remove the magazine disconnect and put a replacement bushing in. This. |
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http://majesticarms.com/id10.html
I have one installed in my 22/45, it is great and I got rid of the mag safety thus making the trigger much better. |
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Taking one down then reassembling it the first time can be a bitch, but fortunately there are youutube videos for just about everything. I even found a video for my 40-year old semi-auto Franchi shotgun that helped me replace a broken firing pin.
I have taken both mine and my dad's 22/45s apart for adding aftermarket parts - Mark ii and a Mark III - however I wouldn''t even bother with that for just cleaning. I have never seen either gun have a problem through thousands of rounds with nothing more than a simple cleaning done without a take-down. |
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http://majesticarms.com/id10.html I have one installed in my 22/45, it is great and I got rid of the mag safety thus making the trigger much better. now that's pretty neat. |
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Think it's bad now? Wait until you detail strip it and the plunger that resides in the trigger that impinges on the trigger bar launches itself across the room. But really, field stripping isn't that bad. Follow the manual. 
Did it in the garage. I NEVER found the part. |
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Quoted: Here we go. Brand new 22/45 never fired, just brought home. (b-day gift to myself for turning 22, figured it fits)I did a basic function check on it at the store and at my house, everything seemed to function fine. Basically I went to disassemble it, after watching a few youtube videos, realized the bolt stop pin was tight so I tried to reassembly. I never took the rear bolt stop pin out of the gun. (Safety is off in all of these actions.) The bolt sticks to the very rear, about 1/8th of an inch before being caught by the bolt catch. I also have a dead trigger no matter what. Mag in, mag out, The magazine will also often get stuck and will only come out if I push on the top of the mag if I open up the action. And cannot disassemble pistol any further. From the amount of tension on the bolt, the hammer is caught but I can't release the hammer so that I can't disassemble it. I can flick the lever down, and the module comes out about 1/4" out of the backstrap but no further. (when its in this configuration, I noticed the bolt doesn't hang up at all) My gut tells me something is out of place near the hammer, but I can't get to it to see whats going on. Sorry if its confusion, thanks for the help. I'll send it back to ruger if I figure it out soon. Thanks I'll post a video later on for clarity purposes. I don't think I'm explaining the situation properly. In seriousness, those things are tight sons of bitches. It's takes a few times to learn all the little things you have to do to get them apart and back together in a functioning manner. Once you've learned its pretty easy though. I strip mine down just about every time I shoot them. |
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Not to be that guy. But the problem I'm having isn't found in the manual. If I could easily find it int he manual or a youtube video I wouldn't have made a thread. People are skimming over the OP and not realizing my problem. The problem most likely is that when you peeled the release lever on the back of the grip down and pulled out the whatchamacallit (mainspring housing) from the rear of the grip you freed the hammer strut from its home even though the pin was never removed from the receiver. You then committed the mortal sin of changing your mind and putting the parts back in their place in the back of the grip without EXACTLY following the instructions in the owner's manual with regard to ensuring the hammer strut is correctly centered with the hammer uncocked on top of the mainspring plunger. The hammer strut is now folded over out of position and binding up the whole thing. It happened to me years ago and I think it was just brute force and prying with a screwdriver that got the release lever pulled out of the grip so that I could do a tear down and then finally reassemble correctly. The owners manual (mine is about 25 years old for a first generation 22/45) goes into excruciating detail on how to field strip and reassemble the 22/45. You have to read it a few times with no distractions then do each step while re-reading each step over and over and double checking that you're doing it exactly as the manual describes. The whole "hold the gun upside down in your left hand at a 45 degree angle away from you" thing is a little hard to grasp. It's imperative that you make sure the hammer is cocked and uncocked and the hammer strut is correctly positioned at the correct stages of reassembly just as specified in the owner's manual. |
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This.
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I have put several back together for people that have taken them apart. Learned how to do it by reading the Owner's Manual! 
WAY before Youtube. It took several reads, but once you understand how these things work they are not that difficult to strip and clean. Still much, much more difficult that it needs to be. Piss-poor engineering on what actually is a damn nice pistol (not a huge damn of the MkIII series though). |