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9/20/2016 4:15:49 PM EDT
Envision the CMP's role and purpose. Examine their duties,  infrastructure,  and schedule.

What do you envision?  How do you see them working "better."

Selling hundreds of garands to 1 old fat guy doesn't do it for me
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9/20/2016 4:17:08 PM EDT
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Surplus M16A1 for me please.
9/20/2016 4:28:43 PM EDT
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I wish they would have a robust gun safety and education program that includes an actual range day at every grade school.
9/20/2016 4:32:08 PM EDT
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If you have ever been to the CMP, you would know they aren't in a rush to do anything.  

They are working with weapons that feel that same way.

This chemistry is what turns out good rifles year over year.

LEAVE THE CMP ALONE.

9/20/2016 4:37:20 PM EDT
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9/20/2016 4:38:14 PM EDT
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Envision the CMP's role and purpose. Examine their duties,  infrastructure,  and schedule.

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Their role and purpose is to raise money to fund/support the shooting sports. They raise that money by selling off Garands, Carbines, 1903s, ammo, etc. Whether they sell everything to 1 person or 1,000,000 makes no difference in the long run in their eyes and that's fine. They're not there to be a source of cheap guns/ammo for each snowflake out there.


9/20/2016 4:41:15 PM EDT
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They  just issued  limit of eight per year.










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Should be one.
9/20/2016 4:42:15 PM EDT
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Their role and purpose is to raise money to fund/support the shooting sports. They raise that money by selling off Garands, Carbines, 1903s, ammo, etc. Whether they sell everything to 1 person or 1,000,000 makes no difference in the long run in their eyes and that's fine. They're not there to be a source of cheap guns/ammo for each snowflake out there.


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Envision the CMP's role and purpose. Examine their duties,  infrastructure,  and schedule.

What do you envision?  How do you see them working "better."

Selling hundreds of garands to 1 old fat guy doesn't do it for me
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Their role and purpose is to raise money to fund/support the shooting sports. They raise that money by selling off Garands, Carbines, 1903s, ammo, etc. Whether they sell everything to 1 person or 1,000,000 makes no difference in the long run in their eyes and that's fine. They're not there to be a source of cheap guns/ammo for each snowflake out there.




I want them to be making the largest number of civilians they can be marksmen.


9/20/2016 4:44:08 PM EDT
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Civilian
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Not:

Fatt
Old
Fudd
Collector's
Association
9/20/2016 4:44:10 PM EDT
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Envision the CMP's role and purpose. Examine their duties,  infrastructure,  and schedule.

What do you envision?  How do you see them working "better."

Selling hundreds of garands to 1 old fat guy doesn't do it for me
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Their role and purpose is to raise money to fund/support the shooting sports. They raise that money by selling off Garands, Carbines, 1903s, ammo, etc. Whether they sell everything to 1 person or 1,000,000 makes no difference in the long run in their eyes and that's fine. They're not there to be a source of cheap guns/ammo for each snowflake out there.




I want them to be making the largest number of civilians they can be marksmen.


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9/20/2016 4:45:10 PM EDT
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-A "CMP East"site in the PA/Virginia area.
-Actually having rack and service grade M1s in stock whenever people want them. Their recent e-mail that limits people to 8 rifles a year baffle me as the only thing I see is super high priced models.
-Congress backing them and getting more surplus rifles/pistols from overseas shipped back would be swell as well.
9/20/2016 4:45:36 PM EDT
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More like greedy neckbeards that sell on Gunbroker and gun shows association
9/20/2016 4:47:26 PM EDT
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I would like to see classes taught to kids and women and men.

Video series would be great too.

9/20/2016 4:51:23 PM EDT
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Longtime CMP fan here, been one since the 1990s. Gotta say, they really need only to open a CMP training facility in Texas. Teach school kids gun safety, marksmanship and offer, courses for adults on home safety/defense, CHL, and other civilian oriented firearms topics. Oh, and selling M1911s, M14NMs and more M1 Carbines as well as M1 Garands.
9/20/2016 4:52:14 PM EDT
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Just out of curiosity, how many CMP Garands did you buy?
9/20/2016 4:57:12 PM EDT
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That is NRA.
9/20/2016 4:57:46 PM EDT
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Just got an email today saying 8 per year max per customer.
9/20/2016 4:58:20 PM EDT
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Envision the CMP's role and purpose. Examine their duties,  infrastructure,  and schedule.

What do you envision?  How do you see them working "better."

Selling hundreds of garands to 1 old fat guy doesn't do it for me
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Their role and purpose is to raise money to fund/support the shooting sports. They raise that money by selling off Garands, Carbines, 1903s, ammo, etc. Whether they sell everything to 1 person or 1,000,000 makes no difference in the long run in their eyes and that's fine. They're not there to be a source of cheap guns/ammo for each snowflake out there.




I want them to be making the largest number of civilians they can be marksmen.




Have you ever been to Camp Perry?  Look up SAFS.
9/20/2016 4:59:18 PM EDT
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NRA does that.
9/20/2016 5:02:29 PM EDT
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Just out of curiosity, how many CMP Garands did you buy?
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What do you envision?  How do you see them working "better."

Selling hundreds of garands to 1 old fat guy doesn't do it for me
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Just out of curiosity, how many CMP Garands did you buy?


All of them?


9/20/2016 5:04:40 PM EDT
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Agreed, 1 per year should be the limit.
9/20/2016 5:11:04 PM EDT
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These threads are usually started by people that don't understand what the purpose of the CMP actually is.  They have long stated that they would like to be out of the gun selling business.  They just do so to get the cash to invest for the future of the program.  They do not wish to limit it to the point that they are selling rifles forever.  If they were concerned with collectors, they wouldn't be auctioning the more valuable rifles off.  They want to strike a balance of moving rifles quickly and making the best profit doing so.  Also, they have stated many times that the number of those buying multiple rifles is very small when compared to total rifle sales.
9/20/2016 5:17:16 PM EDT
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Agreed, 1 per year should be the limit.


Too low. We need as many of the M1s getting into private hands as possible. If there had been a one per year limit the past 10 years, it would leave hundreds of thousand of rifles at risk of future gun haters. Heck, even "conservative" John McCain has tried to insert language into the 2017 defense appropriations bill mandating the destruction of remaining US service rifles, rather than going to the CMP.
9/20/2016 5:17:48 PM EDT
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Start selling demilled M16's.

Or leave them as M16's.
9/20/2016 5:19:51 PM EDT
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So you want the CMP to be the NRA?
9/20/2016 5:24:26 PM EDT
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Hey!  Who are you calling fat?!?!  

9/20/2016 5:34:19 PM EDT
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That's what I was going to say.




Just auction off the surplus like any other surplus and let the NRA handle the test.
9/20/2016 5:42:51 PM EDT
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Are the competitions held in their name across the country, and the national matches, somehow not part of the CMP?
9/20/2016 5:45:09 PM EDT
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No, I don't want more junk mail from a volunteer organization.

The CMP is setup fron CONGRESS  and has a natural borne legitimacy that is somewhat sheltered from political bias.

It has the ability to be huge and be an intrinsic part of every american''s upbringing .  

9/20/2016 5:51:07 PM EDT
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The Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) is a national organization dedicated to training and educating U. S. citizens in responsible uses of firearms and airguns through gun safety training, marksmanship training and competitions. The CMP is a federally chartered 501(c)(3) corporation that places its highest priority on serving youth through gun safety and marksmanship activities that encourage personal growth and build life skills. Links on this page will lead you to more detailed information about the CMP and its programs.
Statutory mission. The federal law enacted in 1996 (Title 36 U. S. Code, 40701-40733) that created the Corporation for the Promotion of Rifle Practice and Firearms Safety, Inc. (CPRPFS, the formal legal name of the CMP) mandates these key “functions for the corporation:

To instruct citizens of the United States in marksmanship;
To promote practice and safety in the use of firearms;
To conduct competitions in the use of firearms and to award trophies, prizes, badges, and other insignia to competitors.



You have to seek it out, you will never have the CMP or the NRA in the classroom as you envision; just the way it is, too much demonization.
9/20/2016 5:57:43 PM EDT
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The Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) is a national organization dedicated to training and educating U. S. citizens in responsible uses of firearms and airguns through gun safety training, marksmanship training and competitions. The CMP is a federally chartered 501(c)(3) corporation that places its highest priority on serving youth through gun safety and marksmanship activities that encourage personal growth and build life skills. Links on this page will lead you to more detailed information about the CMP and its programs.

Statutory mission. The federal law enacted in 1996 (Title 36 U. S. Code, 40701-40733) that created the Corporation for the Promotion of Rifle Practice and Firearms Safety, Inc. (CPRPFS, the formal legal name of the CMP) mandates these key "functions for the corporation:



To instruct citizens of the United States in marksmanship;

To promote practice and safety in the use of firearms;

To conduct competitions in the use of firearms and to award trophies, prizes, badges, and other insignia to competitors.
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I've wanted them to be active in fulfilling their purpose for a while.  I'm sure the relative inactivity boils down to money, though.
9/20/2016 5:59:42 PM EDT
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Free or deeply discounted Garands and 1911s to veterans.
9/20/2016 7:32:46 PM EDT
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Sell M14s back to civilians.
9/20/2016 7:35:17 PM EDT
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I am sure CMP really doesn't give a shit what does it for you.

Have you ever bought a Garand or anything from the CMP?

Whassa matta, you don't qualify to buy one?

Whiny shit.


9/20/2016 7:38:04 PM EDT
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Be happy they still exist.
9/20/2016 7:40:32 PM EDT
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Hey... you should come to CMP Talladega sometime.  

500 acres of shooting sports and electronic targets on the rifle & pistol ranges.  First class facility for rifle, pistol & shotgun.  Paid for in cash with the proceeds of the rifle sales.  They had this HUGE (as opposed to YUGE) shotgun match this past weekend.  It's candyland!

Their target demographic is women and kids.  That's the growth market.

If you have a great idea of how to facilitate outreach, drop me a PM.  I'll hook you up with their leadership.

-K9

P.S.  I'm pretty darned sure the CMP is ready to be finished with rifle sales.  
9/20/2016 7:42:25 PM EDT
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Field Operations Bureau to have state matches like the Nasty Rifle Association does.  Educated, qualify and sell Garands at those training matches.
9/20/2016 7:45:35 PM EDT
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Have them sell all surplus small arms to the American public.  Up to and including belt fed machineguns!
9/20/2016 8:15:59 PM EDT
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I don't understand why guys get bent out of shape over the limit...if you can afford 20 and want 20, why not? Sure, some guys will sell them after receiving, but who cares? 12...8...1...none?
9/20/2016 8:18:08 PM EDT
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I disagree. Get them in the hands of shooters before the program is shut down.
9/20/2016 8:20:20 PM EDT
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Good.
 

Should be one.


I disagree. Get them in the hands of shooters before the program is shut down.


Seriously. Guys that cry about the limit being too high just can't afford two and don't want others to be able to have more than them.
9/20/2016 8:21:53 PM EDT
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They can pay full price like everyone else
9/20/2016 8:31:51 PM EDT
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http://thecmp.org/competitions/




If there aren't any locally, join a club and work to get a CMP sanctioned match started there.




They can't do everything by themselves, but they CAN help willing and motivated clubs host their own events.
9/20/2016 8:48:55 PM EDT
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Seriously. Guys that cry about the limit being too high just can't afford two and don't want others to be able to have more than them.
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Good.
 

Should be one.


I disagree. Get them in the hands of shooters before the program is shut down.


Seriously. Guys that cry about the limit being too high just can't afford two and don't want others to be able to have more than them.


I think the guys who agree with limits, want the pool of rifles spread to as many citizens as possible. Spread them far and wide. Arm america. Teach america. Make America great again.
9/20/2016 8:50:43 PM EDT
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I disagree. Get them in the hands of shooters before the program is shut down.








Seriously. Guys that cry about the limit being too high just can't afford two and don't want others to be able to have more than them.






I think the guys who agree with limits, want the poil of rifles spread to as many citizens as possible. Spread them far and wide. Arm america. Teach america. Make America great again.


That is me.
 






I want people that normally couldn't afford a military rifle to be able to buy one from the CMP.




One of my recent purchases was a Swiss Luger.  It isn't about affordablity.
9/20/2016 8:53:26 PM EDT
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Only thing I want to see regarding the CMP is for politicians to back the fuck off of them and open a location out west !!!!!!
Say, in Arizona perhaps.
9/20/2016 8:56:00 PM EDT
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I want to see the CMP sell Grease guns and m-16's . Not everyone is an accurate shooter , some of us like to spray and pray.




Also a lot of the funding for the CMP range came from gun companies and donations . Not the CMP budget
9/20/2016 9:35:45 PM EDT
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They can pay full price like everyone else


This is my fantasy.  Go get your own.
9/20/2016 9:41:43 PM EDT
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Agreed, 1 per year should be the limit.
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Should be one.



Agreed, 1 per year should be the limit.


This. One per year would lower prices and get wider distribution but I'd do one per each type per year (M1, carbine, 1911, etc). Ammo should have no annual limit.
9/20/2016 10:04:46 PM EDT
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This. One per year would lower prices and get wider distribution but I'd do one per each type per year (M1, carbine, 1911, etc). Ammo should have no annual limit.
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Agreed, 1 per year should be the limit.


This. One per year would lower prices and get wider distribution but I'd do one per each type per year (M1, carbine, 1911, etc). Ammo should have no annual limit.


An artificially imposed limit on supply drives prices higher, not lower.

You limit guys are missing the point that it is not the total supply that is the problem, but that the opportunity window can be closed at any time. I do not care if some guys are buying 12 a year (the previous limit). These rifles do no one a bit of good getting fed through Capt. Crunch in Anniston. Think it cannot happen? Let one of the CMP carbines or Garands get used in some elementary school massacre, and it will be bye bye CMP firearms sales. The GOP RINO's in congress would roll over in a heart beat.

Crap, if RINO traitor John McCain had his way, they would already be getting chopped up.
9/20/2016 10:13:17 PM EDT
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More like greedy neckbeards that sell on Gunbroker and gun shows association
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Motherfuckers. I swear some gun people are the most dirtbag, no honor having sacks of shit to make a few bucks.