Posted: 9/7/2016 10:52:56 PM EDT
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I have a predicament, I have about $1400 burning a hole in my pocket and I can't decide how to put it out.
I've narrowed down the decision between a Dillon 650XL with case feeder, 45ACP/10mm dies, toolheads, and accessories OR A Sig MPX Now to help clear up some confusion. I already have a few SBRs in 9mm so having the SIG MPX is just for "fun" and "cause its new". I have two RCBS turret press, 1 RCBS rock chucker and a few Lee presses. I've always wanted a Dillon because I currently make between 150 to 200 rounds an hour with my turret or single stage press. The prospect of cranking out between 400 to 500 is a really enticing. However with the political climate being the way it is and there being an almost certainty that Hillary will win...unless your living in a river in egypt (that woman could literally kill a young family on prime time LIVE tv and no one would say anything). So I'm torn if the SIG MPX would be the smart move and reloading can always wait. What are the hives thoughts? |
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Quoted: Get a 550 and a cheaper rifle. Everyone who shoots regularly should reload, and if you don't have a press then you need to get one! The RL550B is a great press and can quickly change calibers. Nothing wrong with the 650, but I shoot so many different calibers that I like the ability to switch quickly.  |
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Man this is a tough one for me! You, like me, already have a press. I have a single stage that I like and want something faster.......but damn (perhaps a gun that I cant get very soon). Or a press that I can reload faster on!
All of my extra money has gone to components! |
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You never save money reloading. You just get better ammo, cheaper. In quantity. Quoted:
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I just bought a 650. Do that. I wish I could say you'll save money but that is a lie. I can barely keep up with all the ammo components I've been buying!  You just get better ammo, cheaper. In quantity. Yup, because most of us, the money we save reloading, just gets eaten up because we shoot more. I love the XL650, it works fantastic. However, someone had a good suggestion on getting a 550b and the rifle. I don't own a 550b, but I considered it for a short time to load calibers I don't shoot much (where I now use a classic turret).. instead, I started selling off those calibers and am now down to 9's, 40's, a few .45's, and 2 .357's. I just need to start loading .223. |
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Quoted: Man this is a tough one for me! You, like me, already have a press. I have a single stage that I like and want something faster.......but damn (perhaps a gun that I cant get very soon). Or a press that I can reload faster on! All of my extra money has gone to components! The single stage is used for precision rounds. Progressives are the way to go for pumping out blasting ammo. |
| I'm tagscribing this because I am in a similar situation. I shoot 9mm, 45 ACP, and 10mm, so I really need to get into reloading. Then, when I finish my Remington 700, I'll be reloading .308. I guess I should plan for .223 and .300 AAC while I am at it too. Meh, I've been spending too much money lately. |
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I started a collection of reloading equipment and made 1k 556 before I decided it wasn't for me. It looks like you have started, and maybe enjoy it?
the argument is always you spend the same, but shoot more...well the effort involved made it not worth it to me. I had motorized trimmers the whole setup, but in the end, I found I'd rather just spend $300 on 1k rounds. If you want to get a new hobby, fine. Actually making ammo to shoot for utility? My time is worth more to me than that. No Offense to reloaders, YMMV. vote for more guns, plate carriers, ammo and mags |
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I started a collection of reloading equipment and made 1k 556 before I decided it wasn't for me. It looks like you have started, and maybe enjoy it? the argument is always you spend the same, but shoot more...well the effort involved made it not worth it to me. I had motorized trimmers the whole setup, but in the end, I found I'd rather just spend $300 on 1k rounds. If you want to get a new hobby, fine. Actually making ammo to shoot for utility? My time is worth more to me than that. No Offense to reloaders, YMMV. vote for more guns, plate carriers, ammo and mags I agree completely with this in one sense, if your using a single stage and reloading .223 you had better be doing it for precision or fun. Otherwise the time involved you would be ahead working a bit of overtime and purchasing ammo in bulk. The closest to savings you will get is in straight wall pistol cartridges. |
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I started a collection of reloading equipment and made 1k 556 before I decided it wasn't for me. It looks like you have started, and maybe enjoy it? the argument is always you spend the same, but shoot more...well the effort involved made it not worth it to me. I had motorized trimmers the whole setup, but in the end, I found I'd rather just spend $300 on 1k rounds. If you want to get a new hobby, fine. Actually making ammo to shoot for utility? My time is worth more to me than that. No Offense to reloaders, YMMV. vote for more guns, plate carriers, ammo and mags I agree I used an LNL single stage and deprimed, resized, and cleaned about 450 rounds. It took me a week to get them all loaded and shoot them. It was too much of a time sink and I have a 2 year old. Maybe when I have more free time |
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I have 3 Dillons, along with a number of other single stage, and turret presses. Having the ability to manufacture your own ammo in large quantities is fantastic. It beats the hell out out of paying retail prices for factory ammo. No one "saves money" with the ability to manufacture ammo. You just shoot more at less cost per round....... 
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550, powder, primers. Yup. Remember the 650 takes longer to switch over so if you decide to run to the range and need ammo on the fly you won't mind the simplicity of the 550 change over where on the 650 you might put it off and the 550 is fast enough to make a bunch of rounds quick. I have both and love both machines but find myself using the 550b more and leaving the 650 set for what I use most. Powder and primers will be the first thing to go and it won't matter what you have if you run out. |
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No one "saves money" with the ability to manufacture ammo. You just shoot more at less cost per round.......
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I have 3 Dillons, along with a number of other single stage, and turret presses. Having the ability to manufacture your own ammo in large quantities is fantastic. It beats the hell out out of paying retail prices for factory ammo. No one "saves money" with the ability to manufacture ammo. You just shoot more at less cost per round.......
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Quoted: I started a collection of reloading equipment and made 1k 556 before I decided it wasn't for me. It looks like you have started, and maybe enjoy it? the argument is always you spend the same, but shoot more...well the effort involved made it not worth it to me. I had motorized trimmers the whole setup, but in the end, I found I'd rather just spend $300 on 1k rounds. If you want to get a new hobby, fine. Actually making ammo to shoot for utility? My time is worth more to me than that. No Offense to reloaders, YMMV. vote for more guns, plate carriers, ammo and mags This is my experience as well. I have thousands of dollars in reloading equipment (including a DL 650 with case feeder) that sit unused and haven't been for years. I don't enjoy reloading, and the few bucks I save isn't worth the time anymore. It was worth it when I started as a broke college student, but that was long ago. I keep thinking of selling all of my reloading stuff, but everyone tells me not to. That's really the only reason I still have it. OP, since you're already reloading then the 650 can certainly increase your output if you already know reloading is for you. Personally, I get more enjoyment out of the suppressed MPX in my safe than the 650 sitting unused on my bench. |
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I have a predicament, I have about $1400 burning a hole in my pocket and I can't decide how to put it out. I've narrowed down the decision between a Dillon 650XL with case feeder, 45ACP/10mm dies, toolheads, and accessories OR A Sig MPX Now to help clear up some confusion. I already have a few SBRs in 9mm so having the SIG MPX is just for "fun" and "cause its new". I have two RCBS turret press, 1 RCBS rock chucker and a few Lee presses. I've always wanted a Dillon because I currently make between 150 to 200 rounds an hour with my turret or single stage press. The prospect of cranking out between 400 to 500 is a really enticing. However with the political climate being the way it is and there being an almost certainty that Hillary will win...unless your living in a river in egypt (that woman could literally kill a young family on prime time LIVE tv and no one would say anything). So I'm torn if the SIG MPX would be the smart move and reloading can always wait. What are the hives thoughts? My dad did not like his mpx. He sold it and built on for half the price and likes it much better. |
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I have a predicament, I have about $1400 burning a hole in my pocket and I can't decide how to put it out. I've narrowed down the decision between a Dillon 650XL with case feeder, 45ACP/10mm dies, toolheads, and accessories OR A Sig MPX Now to help clear up some confusion. I already have a few SBRs in 9mm so having the SIG MPX is just for "fun" and "cause its new". I have two RCBS turret press, 1 RCBS rock chucker and a few Lee presses. I've always wanted a Dillon because I currently make between 150 to 200 rounds an hour with my turret or single stage press. The prospect of cranking out between 400 to 500 is a really enticing. However with the political climate being the way it is and there being an almost certainty that Hillary will win...unless your living in a river in egypt (that woman could literally kill a young family on prime time LIVE tv and no one would say anything). So I'm torn if the SIG MPX would be the smart move and reloading can always wait. What are the hives thoughts? MPX is better than any AR style 9 mm AR (IMO). Sell one of the other SBR's Pick up an MPX and a press. |