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8/26/2016 8:30:39 PM EDT
http://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-30-hour-workweek-2016-8/


Amazon is planning a pilot program in which a select group of part-time workers will only need to log 30 hours a week, The Washington Post reports.

Instead of the normal 40-hour week (or, more recently, the 50, 60, or 70-hour week), the world's second-largest retailer will let roughly a dozen "part-time" employees cut back to just 30 hours at 75% the typical salary, but still retain all their benefits.
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8/26/2016 8:32:08 PM EDT
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I somehow doubt the pay and bennies stay the same.
8/26/2016 8:32:16 PM EDT
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That's extremely generous given that Amazon's automation will cause competitors to lay off while giving Amazon employees a relatively sweet deal.  Cause in the future there's not gonna be nearly as much human work needed

inb4 back in my day bullshit
8/26/2016 8:32:48 PM EDT
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Cool.

Those lazy fucks should try my 110 hour work week.
8/26/2016 8:33:40 PM EDT
[#4]
Now my pocket pussy will take another day to arrive...
8/26/2016 8:35:12 PM EDT
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8/26/2016 8:36:43 PM EDT
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Obviously not. They will still be able to buy insurance and qualify for bennies but they will of course make less money overall as they will only be getting 30 hours.
8/26/2016 8:38:34 PM EDT
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It's a tarp.
8/26/2016 8:38:42 PM EDT
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Why doubt when you can know?
8/26/2016 8:38:52 PM EDT
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http://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-30-hour-workweek-2016-8/


Amazon is planning a pilot program in which a select group of part-time workers will only need to log 30 hours a week, The Washington Post reports.

Instead of the normal 40-hour week (or, more recently, the 50, 60, or 70-hour week), the world's second-largest retailer will let roughly a dozen "part-time" employees cut back to just 30 hours at 75% the typical salary, but still retain all their benefits.
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The devil is the details:

-It's only a dozen
-They are already part time
- I'm sure they have and will retain part time benefits
- Do the math, they get 75% less pay for 75% less work

How is revolutionary? Less money for less pay.  Part time people get part time benefits....
8/26/2016 8:39:07 PM EDT
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I'm assuming Amazon knows that by the last day their bodies are exhausted and they move slower. So their workers productivity should go up per hour.
8/26/2016 8:39:32 PM EDT
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Where I work 80% is consider full-time and gets you bennies. I couldn't take a 20% pay cut.
8/26/2016 8:40:10 PM EDT
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Cool, two thirty hour jobs
8/26/2016 8:42:18 PM EDT
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I believe that's called "slavery."

8/26/2016 8:42:38 PM EDT
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Why doubt when you can know?
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I think what he meant was that there's probably a catch. Maybe benefits are kept but premiums go up or such.
8/26/2016 8:43:07 PM EDT
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I believe that's called "slavery."


Yeah, I quit that job.

4 months to go.
8/26/2016 8:46:08 PM EDT
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One of our programmer's last day was today.  He's leaving to go work for Amazon.  Maybe with a 30 hour work week he can catch up on sleep, and stop sleeping at his desk.
8/26/2016 8:47:20 PM EDT
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I thought the same thing. Well done.
8/26/2016 8:48:37 PM EDT
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8/26/2016 8:51:59 PM EDT
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So Amazon is cutting hours and pay and trying to make it sound beneficial to employees?
8/26/2016 8:53:42 PM EDT
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Putting sprinkles on a turd and calling it a sundae.
8/26/2016 8:57:11 PM EDT
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They are getting 75% salary and will work 75% of the hours.



Are they getting the same benefits as a typical 40+ hour employee?  Full medical and dental and 401K match?  Maybe...of course they'll have smaller checks so percent wise is going to be up, but that's fair.   They should get 75% of vacation,sick,PTO, and get 75% pay (6 hours) for holiday.




However I expect that what is really going to happen is they'll be missing out on some of the benefits of true full-timers.  Most likely they'll stop getting paid vacations and holiday pay.
8/26/2016 8:59:43 PM EDT
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People say stuff like that here like they're proud of it or something.
8/26/2016 9:00:28 PM EDT
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Those lazy fucks should try my 110 hour work week.


People say stuff like that here like they're proud of it or something.

No, I hate it.

But I like the money.

Lets me see the old man and mom every 2-3 weeks and every fucking gun I want.
8/26/2016 9:01:04 PM EDT
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I want a 40 hr 4 day work week.

Either with fridays, Tuesdays, or Wednesdays. (In that order)
8/26/2016 9:02:56 PM EDT
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http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2016/08/26/washington-post-jeff-bezos-scab-workers-replace-americans/

Jeff Bezos’ Editorial Board at the Washington Post is complaining that there aren’t enough Americans who want to work low-end jobs, so the government needs to import more foreign replacements
8/26/2016 9:04:42 PM EDT
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How do 30 hour work weeks shake out hours per day wise?
8/26/2016 9:07:05 PM EDT
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This will become more the norm as the minimum wage is increased.  Stupid SJW assholes
8/26/2016 9:08:35 PM EDT
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Doesn't Obamacare mandate health benefits for employees working 30 hours a week?
8/26/2016 9:09:06 PM EDT
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This.
8/26/2016 9:09:27 PM EDT
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For now...
8/26/2016 9:09:52 PM EDT
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Avoiding 0 care?
8/26/2016 9:12:04 PM EDT
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Fuck that. My dick doesn't get hard until I hit 100hrs.
8/26/2016 9:13:40 PM EDT
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You can work a minimum of 24 hours/week at my company and retain benefits. Medical/dental/ vision is 1.5x normal withholding for 24-39 hr/week employees. PTO is prorated. I worked 24 hrs/week while going to pharmacy school to maintain benefits.
8/26/2016 9:14:03 PM EDT
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..."but still retain their benefits"



I'm listening...
8/26/2016 9:19:42 PM EDT
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That's an awful lot of posts on this site while working 110 hrs a week. Must be a cake job. Your employer hiring?
8/26/2016 9:20:17 PM EDT
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Your benefits come out of your pay before taxes. So those benefits are still full price.
They just have a 3/4 sized pie to cut out the same sized slice..

Fuck that noise.
8/26/2016 9:20:34 PM EDT
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That's an awful lot of posts on this site while working 110 hrs a week. Must be a cake job. Your employer hiring?
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Those lazy fucks should try my 110 hour work week.
That's an awful lot of posts on this site while working 110 hrs a week. Must be a cake job. Your employer hiring?

Sure.

You can guide a catheter into someone's brain?
8/26/2016 9:21:18 PM EDT
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I want a 40 hr 4 day work week.



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I work 4 10's, Mon-Thurs. It sucks. I get home, eat, go sleep, repeat.

 
8/26/2016 9:35:11 PM EDT
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Sure.

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That's an awful lot of posts on this site while working 110 hrs a week. Must be a cake job. Your employer hiring?

Sure.

You can guide a catheter into someone's brain?


Sure, I'm 3 beers in - where's the nitrile gloves?!
8/26/2016 9:44:22 PM EDT
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Either with fridays, Tuesdays, or Wednesdays. (In that order)
I work 4 10's, Mon-Thurs. It sucks. I get home, eat, go sleep, repeat.  
I work 4 10's Mon,Tu,Thurs,Fri. I like having 3 days off but work days I do nothing but wait to go to work and sleep.
8/26/2016 9:46:36 PM EDT
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So much



In this thread.
8/26/2016 9:47:10 PM EDT
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Sure, I'm 3 beers in - where's the nitrile gloves?!
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Those lazy fucks should try my 110 hour work week.
That's an awful lot of posts on this site while working 110 hrs a week. Must be a cake job. Your employer hiring?

Sure.

You can guide a catheter into someone's brain?


Sure, I'm 3 beers in - where's the nitrile gloves?!

You're going to need some Biogel in and out gloves, lead, and a gown, but sure... rock on.
8/26/2016 9:49:01 PM EDT
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You either sleep a lot or have a really long commute.
8/26/2016 9:55:50 PM EDT
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Your benefits come out of your pay before taxes. So those benefits are still full price.

They just have a 3/4 sized pie to cut out the same sized slice..



Fuck that noise.
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Your benefits come out of your pay before taxes. So those benefits are still full price.

They just have a 3/4 sized pie to cut out the same sized slice..



Fuck that noise.
Meh, lots of retired folks would go for something like that just to have health insurance.

 
8/26/2016 9:58:03 PM EDT
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No, I hate it.

But I like the money.

Lets me see the old man and mom every 2-3 weeks and every fucking gun I want.
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Cool.

Those lazy fucks should try my 110 hour work week.


People say stuff like that here like they're proud of it or something.

No, I hate it.

But I like the money.

Lets me see the old man and mom every 2-3 weeks and every fucking gun I want.


Then don't complain.
8/26/2016 9:58:47 PM EDT
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That's an awful lot of posts on this site while working 110 hrs a week. Must be a cake job. Your employer hiring?

Sure.

You can guide a catheter into someone's brain?


110 hrs per week working with peoples brains? Sounds like a malpractice lawsuit waiting to happen.
8/26/2016 10:00:29 PM EDT
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Amazon opened a distribution center nearby. Pay is around $10.50 an hour. I would be pissed if they cut me to 30 hours.
8/26/2016 10:13:28 PM EDT
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Either with fridays, Tuesdays, or Wednesdays. (In that order)
I work 4 10's, Mon-Thurs. It sucks. I get home, eat, go sleep, repeat.  


You either sleep a lot or have a really long commute.
Morning commute is about 40mins, afternoon is just under 2hrs. Can't afford to live closer to work, and can't afford a pay cut to work anywhere else

 
8/26/2016 10:28:18 PM EDT
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Edited ~ medicmandan
8/26/2016 11:22:42 PM EDT
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They are getting 75% salary and will work 75% of the hours.

Are they getting the same benefits as a typical 40+ hour employee?  Full medical and dental and 401K match?  Maybe...of course they'll have smaller checks so percent wise is going to be up, but that's fair.   They should get 75% of vacation,sick,PTO, and get 75% pay (6 hours) for holiday.


However I expect that what is really going to happen is they'll be missing out on some of the benefits of true full-timers.  Most likely they'll stop getting paid vacations and holiday pay.
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The 401k match isn't good. We don't have many holidays to begin with. The rest of our benefits aren't really anything special so it's pretty easy to keep that at 100%.

We spend a lot of money to recruit and interviews eat up a lot of dev time so anything to retain people that want to work less could be a huge win. When you have SDE Is making >120k 'total comp' (salary + rsus/bonus) out of college and a massive bleed of SDE 2s, then it makes sense to try something to keep them in company.

The strangest part of this is the 30 hours thing. A *lot* of devs don't just work 40 hour weeks. That's just not really how salaried work + launching new products works. So it's not 75% and 75%, for a lot of people it will be 75% pay for 30-50% of the work.
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