Posted: 8/24/2016 3:26:16 PM EDT
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I just got a new dell i3650 from an Amazon seller and it came with Windows 7, not 10.
Not that I mind windows 7, just thought it was weird that a computer built this month would still be loaded with W7. Counterfeit maybe? Also came with a W10 disk. Should I return it, blade at 45 or pop PMAG covers? |
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It gives end users choice, as not all software works with W10. Which would be fine if there was a legitimate way for the seller to purchase and supply Win7 (there isn't anymore). It's possible he had a load of copies already on hand I guess. OP - if you have a Win7 COA sticker then call MS and ask them to verify it. Also, is it Win10 Pro that's bundled with it? If so then you have downgrade rights and can use that Win10 COA to run older versions. |
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That is... odd. Do you have a Win7 COA sticker? Which has nothing to do with it being suspicious to receive a new computer with a version of windows that is no longer available to buy pre-installed on it. Quoted:
That is... odd. Do you have a Win7 COA sticker? Quoted:
Ummm Windows 7 > 10 Which has nothing to do with it being suspicious to receive a new computer with a version of windows that is no longer available to buy pre-installed on it. Control Panel says that Windows is genuine. Sticker on the case is of the new W8/W10 design. Came with a W10 OS disk. No COA sticker though, just a generic sticker. My current laptop is a HP factory refurb bought at a big box store, no COA on that either. Also called Dell, states that the computer is in someone elses name. Seller seemed reputable though, 600 positive and 100% Lots of other reviews had the same problem too on amazon |
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If it's Win10 Pro then that's all fine as far as Windows goes. If it's a lower version (e.g. Home) then your Win7 is not legit.
The being in someone else's name is a different thing - these are grey. (The way this works is that someone who is a reseller but not a retailer or distributor cannot just buy a load for stock. So they find someone that wants some and create a fictional, much-larger deal. Then they keep the extras and sell them elsewhere.) You may or may not have issues should you try to claim on the warranty but Dell usually honour it. |
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Just got a new laptop from Dell this morning came with Windows 7 installed and a Windows 10 disk in the box. No COA on it anywhere just a little Windows Pro sticker on the bottom. The Serial Number is ingrained in the Laptop. Exactly how I got the desktop in question here. |
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I may be mistaken, but I believe some OEMs using Windows no longer provide a COA, since windows(10) automatically recognizes your specific hardware configuration and supplies you with your licensing based off that recognition. I'm not sure about that, but seems like I've read it somewhere.
ETA: You should be able to reformat to your version from ANY legit windows 10 iso that matches the license, and the licensing would take care of itself when it was connected to the net. |
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If it's Win10 Pro then that's all fine as far as Windows goes. If it's a lower version (e.g. Home) then your Win7 is not legit. The being in someone else's name is a different thing - these are grey. (The way this works is that someone who is a reseller but not a retailer or distributor cannot just buy a load for stock. So they find someone that wants some and create a fictional, much-larger deal. Then they keep the extras and sell them elsewhere.) You may or may not have issues should you try to claim on the warranty but Dell usually honour it. Thanks, exactly what I wanted to know. It has the color shifting label for W10 pro, as well as the disk. Just so long it isn't stolen or counterfeit I'm good. |
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Quoted: You can still get the Win 10 upgrade for free. It is licensed for Windows 10 Pro already. The copy of Windows 7 Pro on the laptop is there because it was ordered pre-installed from Dell pursuant to the downgrade rights you get from 10 Pro. You can buy computers like this till October, I think. At that point MS has said you shall not give people anything other than what we declare is best for them. |
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Quoted: I may be mistaken, but I believe some OEMs using Windows no longer provide a COA, since windows(10) automatically recognizes your specific hardware configuration and supplies you with your licensing based off that recognition. I'm not sure about that, but seems like I've read it somewhere. ETA: You should be able to reformat to your version from ANY legit windows 10 iso that matches the license, and the licensing would take care of itself when it was connected to the net. This is correct. I understand that the OEM licensing is burned into the BIOS for these. (or the MB/system is just pre-registered on the MS activation servers? - I"m not completely sure of the mechanics of it) |
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Thanks, exactly what I wanted to know. It has the color shifting label for W10 pro, as well as the disk. Just so long it isn't stolen or counterfeit I'm good. Quoted:
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If it's Win10 Pro then that's all fine as far as Windows goes. If it's a lower version (e.g. Home) then your Win7 is not legit. The being in someone else's name is a different thing - these are grey. (The way this works is that someone who is a reseller but not a retailer or distributor cannot just buy a load for stock. So they find someone that wants some and create a fictional, much-larger deal. Then they keep the extras and sell them elsewhere.) You may or may not have issues should you try to claim on the warranty but Dell usually honour it. Thanks, exactly what I wanted to know. It has the color shifting label for W10 pro, as well as the disk. Just so long it isn't stolen or counterfeit I'm good. I would go ahead and run a windows keyfinder and copy your license number down just in case it didn't properly license your computer if ever you decide to install windows 10, which runs great but removes all freedom and utility from the OS. |
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There is no "10 upgrade" for this computer. It is licensed for Windows 10 Pro already. The copy of Windows 7 Pro on the laptop is there because it was ordered pre-installed from Dell pursuant to the downgrade rights you get from 10 Pro. You can buy computers like this till October, I think. At that point MS has said you shall not give people anything other than what we declare is best for them. Quoted:
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You can still get the Win 10 upgrade for free. It is licensed for Windows 10 Pro already. The copy of Windows 7 Pro on the laptop is there because it was ordered pre-installed from Dell pursuant to the downgrade rights you get from 10 Pro. You can buy computers like this till October, I think. At that point MS has said you shall not give people anything other than what we declare is best for them. Read past where he mentioned the Win 10 disk in the OP 
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Quoted: Read past where he mentioned the Win 10 disk in the OP Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You can still get the Win 10 upgrade for free. It is licensed for Windows 10 Pro already. The copy of Windows 7 Pro on the laptop is there because it was ordered pre-installed from Dell pursuant to the downgrade rights you get from 10 Pro. You can buy computers like this till October, I think. At that point MS has said you shall not give people anything other than what we declare is best for them. Read past where he mentioned the Win 10 disk in the OP That's not an upgrade - that's an existing license and restore media. |
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Quoted: Just so long it isn't stolen or counterfeit I'm good. People buy them from the Dell Outlet center and resell them all time. I've done it numerous times. The seller can have the ownership transferred to your name. The Win7 makes sense, if it is an outlet computer. It's one that was either returned or just sat in their warehouse until they decided to sell it. On the bottom there should be a Dell Service tag. If it came from the outlet it will also have a refurbished sticker on it. Both come with the same warranty so that isn't an issue. I buy all my computers through their outlet center as they are usually discounted pretty good and they run promo's for an extra 30% off at times. |