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8/14/2016 9:36:11 PM EDT
I'm leasing a rental temporarily until I find my house to buy.

So I have 2 choices. I can buy a cheapy system now for the rental that just locally sounds off, then buy a decent system for the house I purchase. Or I can buy something decent now that is portable and I can bring with me.

All I'm looking for right now is window and door sensors for about 10 entrances. Eventually, I'll want a glass break sensor and motion sensors, but it's not necessary now.

I don't need cameras, I have that covered elsewhere.

Ideas?

8/14/2016 9:49:27 PM EDT
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Honeywell Lynx Plus, if you are going to have it monitored.
8/14/2016 9:55:07 PM EDT
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Simplisafe
8/14/2016 10:00:08 PM EDT
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I have a Lynx and I'm pretty happy with it.  I installed the sensors myself which was pretty easy.  Programming was easy.
 
8/14/2016 10:03:55 PM EDT
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If you want to take it with you when you leave, this was my first thought as well.  I believe there are some other players in this model now, but they're the biggest.



Their stuff looks bulky.  That's my only complaint.  It gets good reviews.


The "no contracts" angle is stupid, though, since they are the only company that can monitor the equipment anyway.



Looks dead simple to install, though.


 
8/14/2016 10:05:30 PM EDT
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If you want to take it with you when you leave, this was my first thought as well.  I believe there are some other players in this model now, but they're the biggest.



Their stuff looks bulky and unattractive.  That's my only complaint.  It gets good reviews.

 
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If you want to take it with you when you leave, this was my first thought as well.  I believe there are some other players in this model now, but they're the biggest.



Their stuff looks bulky and unattractive.  That's my only complaint.  It gets good reviews.

 


AlarmGrid is no contract, you own the stuff and take it with you.  They use the Honeywell stuff.





 
8/14/2016 10:09:48 PM EDT
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If you want to take it with you when you leave, this was my first thought as well.  I believe there are some other players in this model now, but they're the biggest.

Their stuff looks bulky and unattractive.  That's my only complaint.  It gets good reviews.

The "no contracts" angle is stupid, though, since they are the only company that can monitor the equipment anyway.
 
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If you want to take it with you when you leave, this was my first thought as well.  I believe there are some other players in this model now, but they're the biggest.

Their stuff looks bulky and unattractive.  That's my only complaint.  It gets good reviews.

The "no contracts" angle is stupid, though, since they are the only company that can monitor the equipment anyway.
 

Simplisafe systems were hacked earlier this year.  I don't know if they fixed the issue yet.  But a sophisticated attacker can quite easily deactive a simplisafe system remotely.  Obviously not an issue for your random punk burglar, but I'd still skip simplisafe until they fix this.
8/14/2016 10:14:15 PM EDT
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This system will not be professionally monitored. It will be self monitored. By myself.
8/14/2016 10:15:19 PM EDT
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Simplisafe systems were hacked earlier this year.  I don't know if they fixed the issue yet.  But a sophisticated attacker can quite easily deactive a simplisafe system remotely.  Obviously not an issue for your random punk burglar, but I'd still skip simplisafe until they fix this.
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Do you have a link?

Only thing I heard of was that you could use a magnet to fool the door sensor.  But you have to know the weakness, know the home has Simplisafe, and know where the sensor is.  And if the home has well-placed indoor motion sensors, it's not much of a concern.

I'll see what I can find.



 
8/14/2016 10:16:06 PM EDT
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Keep in mind that a pro-monitored system can get you an insurance discount.  That should offset some of the cost.



 
8/14/2016 10:20:21 PM EDT
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Do you have a link?
Only thing I heard of was that you could use a magnet to fool the door sensor.  But you have to know the weakness, know the home has Simplisafe, and know where the sensor is.  And if the home has well-placed indoor motion sensors, it's not much of a concern.
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Simplisafe systems were hacked earlier this year.  I don't know if they fixed the issue yet.  But a sophisticated attacker can quite easily deactive a simplisafe system remotely.  Obviously not an issue for your random punk burglar, but I'd still skip simplisafe until they fix this.

Do you have a link?
Only thing I heard of was that you could use a magnet to fool the door sensor.  But you have to know the weakness, know the home has Simplisafe, and know where the sensor is.  And if the home has well-placed indoor motion sensors, it's not much of a concern.
I'll see what I can find.
 

If you google "simplisafe hacked" you'll find all sorts of articles.

This goes beyond the magnet.  Basically the simplisafe hub communicates with the keypad and sensors is plain text... so an attacker can grab your PIN right out of the air and disable your entire system before they break in.  Only pros who are really targeted a specific house will probably ever try something on that level... but no sense in buying a vulnerable alarm when there are other options out there.
8/14/2016 10:25:33 PM EDT
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If you just google "simplisafe hacked" you'll find all sorts of articles.



This goes beyond the magnet.  Basically simplisafe communicates with the sensors is plain text... so an attacker can grab your PIN right out of the air and disable your entire system before they break in.  Only pros who are really targeted a specific house will probably ever try something on that level... but no sense in buying a vulnerable alarm when there are other options out there.
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Simplisafe systems were hacked earlier this year.  I don't know if they fixed the issue yet.  But a sophisticated attacker can quite easily deactive a simplisafe system remotely.  Obviously not an issue for your random punk burglar, but I'd still skip simplisafe until they fix this.


Do you have a link?

Only thing I heard of was that you could use a magnet to fool the door sensor.  But you have to know the weakness, know the home has Simplisafe, and know where the sensor is.  And if the home has well-placed indoor motion sensors, it's not much of a concern.

I'll see what I can find.

 


If you just google "simplisafe hacked" you'll find all sorts of articles.



This goes beyond the magnet.  Basically simplisafe communicates with the sensors is plain text... so an attacker can grab your PIN right out of the air and disable your entire system before they break in.  Only pros who are really targeted a specific house will probably ever try something on that level... but no sense in buying a vulnerable alarm when there are other options out there.


Thanks.  I found an article.  Looks like they can't actually get your PIN, but they can fool the system into thinking the PIN has been entered.  Definitely a concern.  On the bright side, there's been no evidence of any use of this vulnerability in the real world, and new hardware could be made with the vulnerability removed. Don't know if they've done it, though.



 
8/14/2016 10:25:52 PM EDT
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8/14/2016 10:34:39 PM EDT
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8/14/2016 10:35:26 PM EDT
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Bunker Hill door and window alarms from Harbor Freight.....
 
8/14/2016 10:55:40 PM EDT
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The Lynx goes in just as easy as the Simplysafe, if you want to trust sticky back tape to hold the sensors to the wall!
8/16/2016 8:35:48 AM EDT
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The Lynx goes in just as easy as the Simplysafe, if you want to trust sticky back tape to hold the sensors to the wall!
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You can use screws on the Simplisafe stuff instead of the mounting tape if you want.