Warning

 

Close
Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Cancel Confirm
AR15.COM
8/10/2016 7:54:57 AM EDT
Thinking of picking one up.
Are you happy with yours?
Is the reticle  as course as the pictures make it look?
8/10/2016 7:56:37 AM EDT
[#1]
Primary arms 1-6 is the same with a better reticle imo. Cheaper too.
8/10/2016 8:06:16 AM EDT
[#2]
Tag
8/10/2016 8:07:43 AM EDT
[#3]

Quote History
Quoted:


Primary arms 1-6 is the same with a better reticle imo. Cheaper too.
View Quote




 



I picked the PA over the Vortex because of their ACSS reticle.




I have only had it at the range once but so far i am impressed






8/10/2016 8:07:50 AM EDT
[#4]
I'm pretty happy with mine
8/10/2016 8:18:38 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote History
Quoted:
Primary arms 1-6 is the same with a better reticle imo. Cheaper too.
View Quote

I just picked up the Strike Eagle, have not mounted it yet.
They might be similar, even very close, but Its not exactly the same.
Besides the reticle, (ACSS is probably superior), the weights listed are different per Primary Arms' website and the PA warranty (although good), is only 3 years versus lifetime for the Vortex.

eye relief on PA is 4-4.5"/Vortex is 3.5
weight on PA is 17.4 oz/Vortex is 17.6oz


However, with the better reticle and a cheaper price the PA might be a win.
8/10/2016 8:23:02 AM EDT
[#6]
the norwegian guy fighting with the peshmurga seems to make good use of his.
8/10/2016 8:24:00 AM EDT
[#7]
I've had one since they came out and have shot dozens of matches with shots on steel out to 500 yards plus.

Pros:
good price/value
good features; clicks, turrets, illumintated
durable
ok glass, with very little distortion along the edges
Eye relief is more than adequate.

Cons:
thick lines in reticle make it difficult to get a small group at 100 yards
1/2MOA clicks makes it difficult to get that last bit of accuracy.


This is a 3 Gun scope, so the cons don't bother me in 3 gun. However, this is not a precision scope, so don't expect to shoot a F-class match with it.
8/10/2016 8:30:43 AM EDT
[#8]
I'm a Primary Arms fanboy. I have the 4-14 on my bolt .308 and absolutely love it. PA makes wonderful products for the money. Their 1-6 ACSS is a great optic.
That being said (because of the earlier comparisons), I have a Strike Eagle on my AR that I use for Cola Warrior. I love it. I'm old and my eyes aren't what they used to be, but I have always cleared my rifle targets with plenty of ammo to spare.
I don't think you can go wrong with either one of these, but to answer your question... Yes, the Vortex Strike Eagle is well worth the money.
8/10/2016 8:34:59 AM EDT
[#9]
I really like mine but I think the PA is nicer. The reticle really is pretty beefy.
8/10/2016 8:35:59 AM EDT
[#10]
The Strike Eagle's reticle sucks trying to zero at 100yrds. Glass isn't as good as the Vortex Viper PST 1-4x24. I was on the fence between a PA 1-6x24 with ACSS and the Strike Eagle. After a lot of research I went with the more reputable Vortex over Primary Arms. Well that was a big mistake on my part, I just ordered the PA 1-8x24 Platinum ACSS to replace the Strike Eagle.
8/10/2016 8:41:03 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote History
Quoted:
The Strike Eagle's reticle sucks trying to zero at 100yrds. Glass isn't as good as the Vortex Viper PST 1-4x24. I was on the fence between a PA 1-6x24 with ACSS and the Strike Eagle. After a lot of research I went with the more reputable Vortex over Primary Arms. Well that was a big mistake on my part, I just ordered the PA 1-8x24 Platinum ACSS to replace the Strike Eagle.
View Quote


You post this after I buy your scope
8/10/2016 8:42:12 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote History
Quoted:
Primary arms 1-6 is the same with a better reticle imo. Cheaper too.
View Quote



This... I have both and much prefer the primary arms.

Nothing really wrong with the strike eagle, but the reticle in the primary is much easier to use.
8/10/2016 8:43:04 AM EDT
[#13]
I'm happy with it

Plenty of eye relief and more than enough adjustments for me anyhow to dial it in.  From what I recall reading before, the glass quality is quite better than the PA glass.  Reticle is based on preference so that will vary per person.

Not sure why some have issues at 100 yards grouping them at 6x within MOA or better.

At 200 yards it was still dead on left to right while vertically I had to put the tip of the crosshair on the top of the bulleye instead of in the middle for the ammo I used.  Pretty confident when I go back I could get within 1 MOA @ 200 or better
8/10/2016 8:44:50 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote History
Quoted:


You post this after I buy your scope
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
The Strike Eagle's reticle sucks trying to zero at 100yrds. Glass isn't as good as the Vortex Viper PST 1-4x24. I was on the fence between a PA 1-6x24 with ACSS and the Strike Eagle. After a lot of research I went with the more reputable Vortex over Primary Arms. Well that was a big mistake on my part, I just ordered the PA 1-8x24 Platinum ACSS to replace the Strike Eagle.


You post this after I buy your scope



.

Post of the week!!
8/10/2016 8:47:08 AM EDT
[#15]
Love mine!
8/10/2016 8:56:49 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote History
Quoted:
Primary arms 1-6 is the same with a better reticle imo. Cheaper too.
View Quote

The Vortex is currently on sale for cheaper than the PA.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
8/10/2016 9:07:10 AM EDT
[#17]
I have two Strike Eagles. Very happy with them. I also have experience with their warranty service. I have a Sparc II that I had not mounted and left sitting on the table until I could get to it.....Not a good idea with a 5 month old puppy in the house.....He chewed the living shit out of it! Chewed the rubber cover off etc....., it was DEAD. MY FAULT.

I printed off the return form from their website. Listed reason for return as: "Owner is a dumb ass"- literally....and sent it in for repair. I had it back in my hands looking like NEW in less than 10 days. I paid shipping only one way. You CANNOT BEAT THAT.
8/10/2016 9:16:11 AM EDT
[#18]
I have one on my 3gun rifle. I've shot steel out to 400 yards and lots of paper very quickly at 5-40 yards. The glass isn't as good as my $700 and $1000 scopes, but it's good at this price point. Also, at this price, I have no reservations about throwing it in a barrel.
8/10/2016 9:16:51 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote History
Quoted:



This... I have both and much prefer the primary arms.

Nothing really wrong with the strike eagle, but the reticle in the primary is much easier to use.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Primary arms 1-6 is the same with a better reticle imo. Cheaper too.



This... I have both and much prefer the primary arms.

Nothing really wrong with the strike eagle, but the reticle in the primary is much easier to use.

What is the quality of the PA and Vortex optics?
So far, my dealings with scopes are pretty much just rimfire Weavers, so they don't get beat up, or are not taking any recoil.
8/10/2016 12:34:08 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote History
Quoted:


You post this after I buy your scope
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
The Strike Eagle's reticle sucks trying to zero at 100yrds. Glass isn't as good as the Vortex Viper PST 1-4x24. I was on the fence between a PA 1-6x24 with ACSS and the Strike Eagle. After a lot of research I went with the more reputable Vortex over Primary Arms. Well that was a big mistake on my part, I just ordered the PA 1-8x24 Platinum ACSS to replace the Strike Eagle.


You post this after I buy your scope


I'm also battling worsening eyesight, I need to hit up the eye doctor.
8/10/2016 12:47:32 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote History
Quoted:


I'm also battling worsening eyesight, I need to hit up the eye doctor.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
The Strike Eagle's reticle sucks trying to zero at 100yrds. Glass isn't as good as the Vortex Viper PST 1-4x24. I was on the fence between a PA 1-6x24 with ACSS and the Strike Eagle. After a lot of research I went with the more reputable Vortex over Primary Arms. Well that was a big mistake on my part, I just ordered the PA 1-8x24 Platinum ACSS to replace the Strike Eagle.


You post this after I buy your scope


I'm also battling worsening eyesight, I need to hit up the eye doctor.


I knew about the diffs before I bought it. I want the Vortex on my 5.56 and I am putting a PA 1-8 on my 7.62.

Get both right!
8/10/2016 12:51:55 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote History
Quoted:

What is the quality of the PA and Vortex optics?
So far, my dealings with scopes are pretty much just rimfire Weavers, so they don't get beat up, or are not taking any recoil.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Primary arms 1-6 is the same with a better reticle imo. Cheaper too.



This... I have both and much prefer the primary arms.

Nothing really wrong with the strike eagle, but the reticle in the primary is much easier to use.

What is the quality of the PA and Vortex optics?
So far, my dealings with scopes are pretty much just rimfire Weavers, so they don't get beat up, or are not taking any recoil.

IMO, the quality of both optics exceed what you would expect to get at their respective prices.
8/10/2016 12:57:04 PM EDT
[#23]
I have one.  No complaints at all.
8/10/2016 1:00:10 PM EDT
[#24]

Quote History
Quoted:


the norwegian guy fighting with the peshmurga seems to make good use of his.
View Quote




 
Kills hajj dead as shit. And nice of Vortex to sponsor him.
8/10/2016 1:12:29 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote History
Quoted:

  Kills hajj dead as shit. And nice of Vortex to sponsor him.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
the norwegian guy fighting with the peshmurga seems to make good use of his.

  Kills hajj dead as shit. And nice of Vortex to sponsor him.


Maybe they'll start wearing battle shirts and vests with sponsors like MX racers and Bass fishers!
8/10/2016 1:17:28 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote History
Quoted:
I'm pretty happy with mine
View Quote

8/10/2016 1:21:38 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote History
Quoted:


Maybe they'll start wearing battle shirts and vests with sponsors like MX racers and Bass fishers!
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
the norwegian guy fighting with the peshmurga seems to make good use of his.

  Kills hajj dead as shit. And nice of Vortex to sponsor him.


Maybe they'll start wearing battle shirts and vests with sponsors like MX racers and Bass fishers!


Make America Great Again hats too!
8/10/2016 1:22:16 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote History
Quoted:

  Kills hajj dead as shit. And nice of Vortex to sponsor him.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
the norwegian guy fighting with the peshmurga seems to make good use of his.

  Kills hajj dead as shit. And nice of Vortex to sponsor him.

They sponsor him?  How does that work with ITAR?
8/10/2016 1:28:55 PM EDT
[#29]
A local guy, who owns an optics shop, told me that he sells these optics by the box load and can hardly keep them in stock.  Given its price point vs. feature set and company reputation, it makes sense for a lot of shooters' budgets.
I do like the PA ACSS reticle more though,
8/10/2016 1:30:53 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote History
Quoted:

The Vortex is currently on sale for cheaper than the PA.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Primary arms 1-6 is the same with a better reticle imo. Cheaper too.

The Vortex is currently on sale for cheaper than the PA.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile

Yeah for $259 it's a no brainer.
8/10/2016 1:31:57 PM EDT
[#31]


Quote History
Quoted:
They sponsor him?  How does that work with ITAR?
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:





Quoted:




Quoted:


the norwegian guy fighting with the peshmurga seems to make good use of his.



  Kills hajj dead as shit. And nice of Vortex to sponsor him.





They sponsor him?  How does that work with ITAR?





 
I think I posted the same question in the original thread. I don't think I got an answer, not that I care. Guy is good people, his Instagram is interesting


 
8/10/2016 1:32:47 PM EDT
[#32]
Friend of mine brought one over to shoot last weekend.


I was impressed overall.  Edge to edge clarity was better than expected.  Reticle is useable and better than what is available in most scopes.


I would have bought a strike eagle if they had been out sooner but now that I have a Razor HD there is no going back.  


Vortex warranty and the reticle would make me choose the strike eagle over the primary arms.
8/10/2016 1:33:23 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote History
Quoted:

  I think I posted the same question in the original thread. I don't think I got an answer, not that I care. Guy is good people, his Instagram is interesting
 
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
the norwegian guy fighting with the peshmurga seems to make good use of his.

  Kills hajj dead as shit. And nice of Vortex to sponsor him.

They sponsor him?  How does that work with ITAR?

  I think I posted the same question in the original thread. I don't think I got an answer, not that I care. Guy is good people, his Instagram is interesting
 



I think it was channeled to him by someone in violation of ITAR.
8/10/2016 1:37:09 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote History
Quoted:

What is the quality of the PA and Vortex optics?
So far, my dealings with scopes are pretty much just rimfire Weavers, so they don't get beat up, or are not taking any recoil.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Primary arms 1-6 is the same with a better reticle imo. Cheaper too.



This... I have both and much prefer the primary arms.

Nothing really wrong with the strike eagle, but the reticle in the primary is much easier to use.

What is the quality of the PA and Vortex optics?
So far, my dealings with scopes are pretty much just rimfire Weavers, so they don't get beat up, or are not taking any recoil.



Vortex makes everything from entry level made in China to high end made in Japan, and I think they have a new offering that is wholly made in America.


My Razor 1-6x is fucking incredible.  I don't know why people still buy ACOGs other than the fact that the Razor is a heavy heavy SOB.  Rock solid though.  With incredible glass, a great reticle, bright as hell illumination, and one thing that nobody talks about but is really really important.  The Razor has incredibly good turrets with a very well thought out system for return to zero and windage adjustments... etc.


I have a Steiner T5Xi that is very good and lighter than the Razor but the turrets are noticeably inferior.
8/10/2016 1:38:35 PM EDT
[#35]
I looked through a few of the Vortex Strike Eagles and could'nt get over the amount of image distortion in the 1x setting.
8/10/2016 1:59:24 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote History
Quoted:
I think it was channeled to him by someone in violation of ITAR.
View Quote


Or.. you can get one of their scopes from their numerous worldwide dealers.
8/10/2016 2:00:45 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote History
Quoted:
the norwegian guy fighting with the peshmurga seems to make good use of his.
View Quote


Peshmerganor ?
8/10/2016 2:08:44 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote History
Quoted:
I looked through a few of the Vortex Strike Eagles and could'nt get over the amount of image distortion in the 1x setting.
View Quote


I noticed the same thing.  Was told to adjust the focus/diopter first.

Belonged to a buddy so I didn't mess with anything.
8/10/2016 2:10:43 PM EDT
[#39]
I have a Strike Eagle and a friend has the PA 1-6.  IMO the Vortex has better glass and the PA has a better reticle.  Neither has day-time bright illumination.
8/10/2016 2:11:31 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote History
Quoted:


I noticed the same thing.  Was told to adjust the focus/diopter first.

Belonged to a buddy so I didn't mess with anything.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
I looked through a few of the Vortex Strike Eagles and could'nt get over the amount of image distortion in the 1x setting.


I noticed the same thing.  Was told to adjust the focus/diopter first.

Belonged to a buddy so I didn't mess with anything.


The glass isn't that good in the PA or SE. Certainly good enough but not that clear so you'll see some distortion. The thing that bugs me the most is the brownish hue.
But then again, you're getting a 1-6x scope for less than $500 so there will be a compromise.
8/10/2016 2:20:57 PM EDT
[#41]
I like my Strike Eagle just fine, prefer it to the Leupold and Burris 1-4x I have.
8/10/2016 7:42:19 PM EDT
[#42]
I borrowed a friend's rifle for a long range stage at a 3 gun match, when my rifle went down. I asked what it was set at, looked at the reticle for maybe 60 seconds and was hitting targets at 400 yds. I was very impressed for the price.
8/10/2016 7:47:25 PM EDT
[#43]
much bigger scope than I thought.

works good though, very clear glass to my eyes, I'm keeping it.

Did I mention that thing is yuuuge.
8/11/2016 8:08:36 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote History
Quoted:

  I think I posted the same question in the original thread. I don't think I got an answer, not that I care. Guy is good people, his Instagram is interesting
 
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
the norwegian guy fighting with the peshmurga seems to make good use of his.

  Kills hajj dead as shit. And nice of Vortex to sponsor him.

They sponsor him?  How does that work with ITAR?

  I think I posted the same question in the original thread. I don't think I got an answer, not that I care. Guy is good people, his Instagram is interesting
 

i don't care either, just a thought.
8/11/2016 9:05:50 AM EDT
[#45]
Great optic, I like mine.  It took no time to zero.
8/11/2016 9:20:05 AM EDT
[#46]
I'll give it a +1

It's not a winner on every level - glass quality isn't actually as good as I was expecting, and I thought the eye box was unforgiving (but this was also my first experience with a 1-6 variable after owning Vortex 3-12's). I purchased one for a friend when helping him with a build, spent quite a bit of time with it before he got his gun up and running. If you can get one below $300 either used or on sale, then I say do it for sure.

I would look hard at the Primary Arms offering with ACSS though.