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8/1/2016 10:47:31 AM EDT
I had a Sirius radio subscription years ago but only ever used it for sports talk and eventually quit using it and let it expire. New vehicle has a free trial and I noticed some stations have no low end whatsoever. It's as if someone dropped all the eq below the midrange. Even a couple of the hip hop stations are like this which seems especially odd. Is this a common thing or is there something wrong with my service?
8/1/2016 10:54:34 AM EDT
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You're listening to "hip-hop"?
There's your problem
8/1/2016 10:56:11 AM EDT
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Xm quality isn't good. Standard AM/FM beats it everyday.
8/1/2016 11:01:57 AM EDT
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Most stations are fine then there's a few here and there with no low end. Mids and highs crystal clear but no bass at all but only on certain stations.
8/1/2016 11:02:56 AM EDT
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I've been listening to Spotify more than my SXM lately. When renewal time comes around, I'm going to let them know their subpar sound quality is the reason for leaving.
8/1/2016 11:03:30 AM EDT
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The sound quality seems like it got shittier about 6 months ago.
8/1/2016 11:12:32 AM EDT
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I typically listen to a narrow selection of artists from a wide array of genres so I've never been a big radio guy. I've got 30,000 songs instantly available on a flash drive plugged into my vehicle's infotainment system, so I use that 95% of the time.
8/1/2016 11:32:14 AM EDT
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Never noticed it on their "in house" music stations.
For sure on the retransmitted radio stations, traffic reports and the talk and sports radio. They compress the shit out of their signal on those.

Maybe it is just how I like to handle media, but I like SiriusXM. While I have a pretty large music collection and do use Pandora and other streaming apps on occasion, I like that XM requires no input from me. I start my truck, there it is. No connecting my phone, syncing, choosing tracks, fiddling with playlists etc.


8/1/2016 11:33:59 AM EDT
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I mostly listen to Blue Collar Comedy (Jeff Foxworthy & Larry The Cable Guy), BPM (Techno & Electronic Dance) and Nascar.
8/1/2016 11:35:11 AM EDT
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That sounds like my own personal hell.
8/1/2016 11:43:38 AM EDT
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<==== Former SiriusXM repeater Tech.



your answer lies here...






8/1/2016 11:45:27 AM EDT
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your answer lies here...





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The 12.5mhz is digital signal correct? :)



 
8/1/2016 11:46:19 AM EDT
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Yeah, you're not alone. The sound quality sucks. Lately I've just been streaming music from my phone.
8/1/2016 11:46:34 AM EDT
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the sound quality sucks.

Always sounds like they are in a empty concrete room.
8/1/2016 11:46:40 AM EDT
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English please, oh great wizard?
8/1/2016 11:47:12 AM EDT
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I mostly listen to Blue Collar Comedy (Jeff Foxworthy & Larry The Cable Guy), BPM (Techno & Electronic Dance) and Nascar.




That sounds like my own personal hell.


That is the only few channels I listen to.



 
8/1/2016 12:01:41 PM EDT
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your answer lies here...





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English please, oh great wizard?
Sirius and XM use different satellite types, geosynchronous for XM and asynchronous for Sirius, but both also use ground based repeaters for coverage.  Both are also limited to 12.5Mhz of transmit bandwidth.  When both first launched, the sound quality was very good, but as they have added channels, the sound quality has degraded.

 
8/1/2016 12:04:17 PM EDT
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Sirius and XM use different satellite types, geosynchronous for XM and asynchronous for Sirius, but both also use ground based repeaters for coverage.  Both are also limited to 12.5Mhz of transmit bandwidth.  When both first launched, the sound quality was very good, but as they have added channels, the sound quality has degraded.  
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English please, oh great wizard?
Sirius and XM use different satellite types, geosynchronous for XM and asynchronous for Sirius, but both also use ground based repeaters for coverage.  Both are also limited to 12.5Mhz of transmit bandwidth.  When both first launched, the sound quality was very good, but as they have added channels, the sound quality has degraded.  



Thanks for the explanation.

Does that explain something like no low end on a select few channels? Other than that the sound quality is decent and consistent from channel to channel
8/1/2016 12:12:10 PM EDT
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Does that explain something like no low end on a select few channels? Other than that the sound quality is decent and consistent from channel to channel
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English please, oh great wizard?
Sirius and XM use different satellite types, geosynchronous for XM and asynchronous for Sirius, but both also use ground based repeaters for coverage.  Both are also limited to 12.5Mhz of transmit bandwidth.  When both first launched, the sound quality was very good, but as they have added channels, the sound quality has degraded.  






Thanks for the explanation.



Does that explain something like no low end on a select few channels? Other than that the sound quality is decent and consistent from channel to channel
Yes, the individual channels can be compressed at different rates, but IIRC most are uploaded at 32 kbps, or about 2% of original CD quality.

 
8/1/2016 12:32:15 PM EDT
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Never noticed a problem.  Sounds great, but I only listen to a handful of rock and roll channels.  Out in the country there are maybe only a couple of fm channels so Sirius is awesome.
8/1/2016 12:46:27 PM EDT
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Yes, SXM sound quality sucks.
8/1/2016 12:48:38 PM EDT
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I'm annoyed that I can't get "Turbo" station on my vehicle satellite tuners, but I can listen all day long on the internet version.
8/1/2016 12:49:05 PM EDT
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It's garbage. Stream the same channels over your phone and the quality is much better. It's like night a day. They must compress the shit out of everything to cram more channels in.
8/1/2016 12:49:35 PM EDT
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That's because they have streaming only channels. Turbo is one of them.
8/1/2016 12:51:38 PM EDT
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You should be able to, unless Turbo is only available on select tuners.

Turbo is one of the presets in my truck.

ETA: Channel 314

8/1/2016 12:53:25 PM EDT
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I love it for the two weeks (Memorial Day) in the spring and two weeks in the fall (Labor Day) they do their free promos.

Truck has no A/C, glasspack true duals and mud tires... sound quality is hearing the radio above the chaos at highway speed... we don't get too nit-picky.

Normal dd does just fine on a thumbdrive or FM.  HU is satellite ready but didn't come with the antennae or receiver and I am too cheap to pay for it anyway.
8/1/2016 1:21:44 PM EDT
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Mine sounds just fine...





What parts I hear over the ringing in my ears.
8/1/2016 1:33:35 PM EDT
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I mostly listen to the Patriot channel and NFL channel  for talk radio it is just fine.
8/1/2016 1:34:39 PM EDT
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You should be able to, unless Turbo is only available on select tuners.

Turbo is one of the presets in my truck.

ETA: Channel 314

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I'm annoyed that I can't get "Turbo" station on my vehicle satellite tuners, but I can listen all day long on the internet version.


You should be able to, unless Turbo is only available on select tuners.

Turbo is one of the presets in my truck.

ETA: Channel 314



I can't get that high on my 2012 Lexus or my aftermarket Kenwood in my Excursion (with satellite tuner).   :(
8/1/2016 1:53:27 PM EDT
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Sound quality was fine when it first came out. I was an early XM adopter, back when their commercial showed a bunch of musical instruments dropping out of the sky. In the years since, they have squeezed in a whole bunch of new talk channels by lowering the data or bit rate for the existing channels.
8/1/2016 2:05:32 PM EDT
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That's because they have streaming only channels. Turbo is one of them.
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I'm annoyed that I can't get "Turbo" station on my vehicle satellite tuners, but I can listen all day long on the internet version.



That's because they have streaming only channels. Turbo is one of them.


Not quite.  You need a special receiver for the "Xtra" lineup.  Asses.
8/1/2016 2:12:56 PM EDT
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Question that kind of relates to this thread...

I was considering buying a satellite radio for my car.  When looking at pricing for on their website, I was asked if I had a "Sirius radio" or an "XM radio"... The prices are the same, but I'm assuming the technology in the radios are different.  I'll be purchasing a brand new radio, so would I choose Sirius, or XM?
8/1/2016 2:19:03 PM EDT
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I can't get that high on my 2012 Lexus or my aftermarket Kenwood in my Excursion (with satellite tuner).   :(
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I'm annoyed that I can't get "Turbo" station on my vehicle satellite tuners, but I can listen all day long on the internet version.


You should be able to, unless Turbo is only available on select tuners.

Turbo is one of the presets in my truck.

ETA: Channel 314



I can't get that high on my 2012 Lexus or my aftermarket Kenwood in my Excursion (with satellite tuner).   :(

One of my favorite stations is the covers channel (302). I get it in my Honda Pilot.  My wife's new Honda Odyssey, same trim level, same model year, can't get the channels in the 300s.
8/1/2016 2:19:40 PM EDT
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Not quite.  You need a special receiver for the "Xtra" lineup.  Asses.
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I'm annoyed that I can't get "Turbo" station on my vehicle satellite tuners, but I can listen all day long on the internet version.



That's because they have streaming only channels. Turbo is one of them.


Not quite.  You need a special receiver for the "Xtra" lineup.  Asses.


Does it hook onto the existing system somehow?
8/1/2016 2:34:17 PM EDT
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Never noticed a problem.  Sounds great, but I only listen to a handful of rock and roll channels.  Out in the country there are maybe only a couple of fm channels so Sirius is awesome.
8/2/2016 10:32:15 AM EDT
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Does it hook onto the existing system somehow?
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I'm annoyed that I can't get "Turbo" station on my vehicle satellite tuners, but I can listen all day long on the internet version.



That's because they have streaming only channels. Turbo is one of them.


Not quite.  You need a special receiver for the "Xtra" lineup.  Asses.


Does it hook onto the existing system somehow?


Looks like it's a whole new receiver.