[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Eminem (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 6/1/2003 6:49:12 AM EDT
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Surely somebody posted about him, being that he's the biggest thing since Elvis. I must've missed it......Anyway, what do you guys think about him?? Good? Bad? Annoying? I like him- he tells it like it is and doesn't sugar-coat |
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Grabbed that bitch by her hair Drug her across the ground And took her up to the highest diving board and tossed her down Sorry coach, its too late to tell me stop While I drop this bitch face down and watch her belly flop Bitch, I'mma kill you You don't wanna fuck with me Girls leave, you ain't nothin' but a slut to me Bitch, I'mma kill you You don't got the balls to beef We ain't gon' never stop beefin' I don't squash the beef You better kill me I'mma be another rapper dead For poppin' off at the mouth with shit I shouldn't have said But when they kill me I'm bringin' the world with me Bitches too, you ain't nothin' but a girl to me Oh yeah, truth to power, Em! |
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Quoted: Let m&m make 50 movies and 100 albums before you at least start making comparisons with Elvis. I think Eminem's pretty talented, but I take issue with the above statement. Specifically, the movie part. Here's a synopsis of an Elvis movie: Guy is placed in some random situation (in a war, in jail, by a pool, etc.) Girl takes interest in guy. Guy gets girl. Hey look! Guy the guy can sing and dance! Guy breaks into song, and guess what! EVERYONE on the damn screen starts to sing and dance along! EVERY SINGLE ELVIS MOVIE is the same. Siniging and dancing bullshit. Elvis was a musician. He should have stuck with it. That being said, I sure admired when he put his career on hold to join the Army. |
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Quoted: Another immature moron with bad music/storytelling (if that's what you call it). Yeah really, I mean talking about taking advantage of oppertunity to better your life, parents being held responsible for their children, and taking care of your own kids. That's all a bunch of immature garbage that we don't need to hear. Now his early stuff, who knows WTF he was smoking when he came up with it. I agree with Lightfighter, Eminem has matured a lot and his music is showing it. His latest stuff actually has some positive messages in it. Of course if you are ignorant to his music and just running your mouth based on what others told you, then try to get a clue first. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Another immature moron with bad music/storytelling (if that's what you call it). Yeah really, I mean talking about taking advantage of oppertunity to better your life, parents being held responsible for their children, and taking care of your own kids. That's all a bunch of immature garbage that we don't need to hear. Pat Boone has been saying this for years too, just not in song![:D] He's just more convincing. |
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Well being a teenager a lot of his music I can semi-relate too and most of it I just find too damn funny to stop listening to it. He points out all of the hypocrisy in our nation. I have every album of his, even his first album "Infinite" and you can see the progression in his lyrics. I saw one person who said "He will be gone in the next year." You must not realize he's been around since 1999-2000 and has been mainstream since then. Like a few others have said his lyrics have matured and have really developed into thoughtful lyrics instead of just stuff to make you double take like "WTF did he just say?" Now also I want someone to name a better crossover artist, he went from making records with no acting experience to the big screen. I honestly didn't like the idea of Eminem being in a movie, I figured it would just be a cheesy story of his life, but I like the twists in it and it really showed that he can act. Now if his albums continue they way they are going I will still be a fan until he is gone. Now I see a lot of negative comments, and I'm sure more then half of these people that are making these comments have not even listened to his albums, they just see others talking crap about him and do the same much like the antis do when they look at our "Evil Black Rifles" that have no use in civilians hand besides murdering people. Now you may think there is no use for this music blah blah blah but Freedom of speech is also guaranteed by The Constitution like the 'Right to bear arms', it's great that he can speak his mind, exercising his rights, and be heard by millions. Go Eminem! |
| His movie sucked more than jenna jameson being paid overtime. Seriously, it was nothing more than him trying to glorify himself as a lone white boy from the trailor park who broke into the urban black hip hop scene. I give him credit for the earlier work he did with the High and Mighty, but now hes being a dick to all of them. He was crap when he started and he still is. |
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It's utterly amazing at what the lemmings call "music" now...boggles the mind. I bet he does'nt even know a music scale. Music..usually recquires knowledge of musical notes. Art maybe...perverted as it may seem. Eventually people grow tired of berating and lude lyrics. I don't hear the Marilyn Manson zombies chirping anymore...about his "musical genious". M&m is an opportunist, who leeches off the negative emotions of teenagers in pain...nothing new. It's been done before, and surely will be repeated. When do the baggy pants go out? About the same time people get tired of hearing x-rated lyrics I suppose. |
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Quoted: It's utterly amazing at what the lemmings call "music" now...boggles the mind. I bet he does'nt even know a music scale. All the old farts of every generation say the same thing. It's been said about Mozart, Beethoven, Elvis, The Beatles, Metallica, et al. |
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Quoted: Quoted: It's utterly amazing at what the lemmings call "music" now...boggles the mind. I bet he does'nt even know a music scale. All the old farts of every generation say the same thing. It's been said about Mozart, Beethoven, Elvis, The Beatles, Metallica, et al. How true, how true, however there is one distinct difference between those you list. They did do something radically different and new. The only thing radically different about this guy is he's white. His music though good is not a new style or radically different. |
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Quoted: All the old farts of every generation say the same thing. It's been said about Mozart, Beethoven, Elvis, The Beatles, Metallica, et al. Use your head Sniper wolfe...everyone one of those you named were pretty much [b]First[/b] at their musical style. Emphasis on [b]music[/b]. Samplers and driving bass lines can be done by anyone...lyrics? Watch MTV for about an hour, you can write hundreds of them. Enema is Vanilla Ice with raunchy lyrics...he looks like a punk, he acts like a punk and noone could ever imagine him fathering a child. Genious? How bout advertising coup...gives all the white teen boys license to act like hoodlums from South Central L.A. And make a loser a hero...voila', Coup de tent'! If this trend continues...I could grab a coffee can, whack it with my pecker, pr on MTV, make penile tunes. Should be big in a few years...especially if I wear baggy pants and dye my hair color. [rolleyes] As much as I hate the Seattle punks music (Cobain) that came out in the early 90's...it was distinctly different and actually [b]musically[/b] diverse. They broke the barrier with a [b]new[/b] music style. Their music is still being played today. If you like or adore someone's music...great, more power to you. Just don't go overboard and put him in the same light as the forementioned musicians who's music is timeless and groundbreaking. |
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Quoted: The female 'throng' that listen to his crap amaze me considering what he [s]c[/s]raps about doing to women, let alone his own mother. I'm sorry.... have you missed all of the women-bashing that a lot of the population on THIS site indulge in on a daily basis? How is what he's saying any different that the venom and hatred lacing the "advice" given about women here? If I were to go by your reasoning, it's a wonder some of y'all have women in your lives. To quote Eminem... "I'm like a head trip to listen to, cause I'm only givin you things you joke about with your friends inside your living room. The only difference is I got the balls to say it in front of y'all and I don't gotta be false or sugarcoated at all." |
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I look at him as a salesman if anything other than an entertainer. His appearance, image, and lyrical content is product. He develops and packages a product that is popular enough to get radio play yet has a core audience that identifies with what he writes. Look at the army of wannabes that look and dress like him. I think he has the "I'm all messed up because I was raised by a drugged-out single parent" demographic nailed. It's ironic that a part of his product is anti-hype, anti-establishment, anti-music industry/ MTV derived, yet they are the ones who fill his pocketbooks. As long as you keep that in perspective, you're ok. |
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Eminem = 21st century Vanilla Ice. Give him a few years and he will be on "THE HOLLYWOOD SQUARES" with david hasselhoff, gary coleman, and that guy that played webster. Another No talent wannabe. the only reason he got big is he is a white boy in a black industry. Heck i guess even gangsta thugs have affirmative action policies now. mike |
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Quoted: Pat Boone has been saying this for years too, just not in song![:D] He's just more convincing. Unfortunately, he HAS said things "in song" far too often. From his early covers of songs such as "Tootie Fruity" to his more recent heavy metal effort, the man has proven himself to be a complete tool. |
| Listen to the song "White America" and you will realize why Eminem has always been in the spotlight. I love Eminem, EladEflow introduced me to Slim Shady and ever since I have been a big follower of his music. Eminem tells is straight up with out the horse shit to cover it up. I don't care what all these critics say about his music being so offensive. If you know anything you will know that in the 1950's Elvis was almost banned from the Mainsteam market 'cause he "shook his hips too much" I guess people who write all these rules about censorship and all that bullshit havent read in the United States Constitution the part about freedom of speech. |
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I'd say he's done a great job for himself... However, I still can't stand to listen to his work... It's not music, it's a performance... Music requires that you actually sing, and either play instruments or have someone play them for you (no, a beat box is not an instrument)... Rappers do not sing, they either (a) talk, or (b) yell, and 'accompaniment' is usually a beat-box... A/O any previous bands/composers who were ripped on by the 'previous generation... Metallica, Beethoven, Elvis, Van Halen, Mozart... All actually performed and/or wrote music. The notes may be different, but they were there. They may change the beat, but there's something more to the performance than beat... And as much as the Elvis fans complain about modern rock, both Elvis and Roth (or whoever it is today) could sing... |
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Quoted: Music requires that you actually sing, and either play instruments or have someone play them for you (no, a beat box is not an instrument)... Actually it is music. By definition; The art of arranging sounds in time, Vocal or instrumental sounds having some degree of rhythm. I would say that is music, by definition. |