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7/20/2016 5:28:46 PM EDT
This is bad fucking news.

Spoke to my military buddies that are stationed in turkey right now. The police (government loyalists and sharia supporters) were on incirlik AFB rounding up officers. They're going to be mass executed.

I have a feeling this situation is going to quickly turn into American hostilities leaving nuclear weapons at risk of falling into Turkish hands.

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2500 military personnel stationed there, and guess what. The power was cut to base Friday , all the Americans are sleeping at their units not in the barracks.

They aren't allowed to arm American personnel due to an American Turkish agreement.
I'm afraid this is going to turn into a gigantic Benghazi type event
7/20/2016 5:31:03 PM EDT
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7/20/2016 5:31:35 PM EDT
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I really don't see the Turks getting their hands on the nukes.  I could possibly see a situation where Israel swoops in and grabs them during some major chaos.
7/20/2016 5:32:26 PM EDT
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If government loyalists rush the base what would stop them

This isn't bagram
7/20/2016 5:32:28 PM EDT
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Tagged to see where this goes.





eta We covered the contingency plans for nukes in the earlier threads.  No one is getting them.



The Turk military is being purged from the top down.



 
7/20/2016 5:33:23 PM EDT
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Really think that's gonna work like that? Even the pussy in chief won't let that happen.
7/20/2016 5:33:47 PM EDT
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It's Turkey. We should be happy it's only mass murder, not genocide (yet).
7/20/2016 5:34:00 PM EDT
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If Turkey starts executing prisoners, they will not be welcomed into the EU
7/20/2016 5:34:25 PM EDT
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"never let a good crisis go to waste",

Particularly if you staged it in the first place.

Hope all our guys stay safe.
7/20/2016 5:34:36 PM EDT
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No arms due to agreement..

Fuck that agreement goes out the window when the government breaks down. Government goes batshit agreement goes with it,

7/20/2016 5:34:44 PM EDT
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If government loyalists rush the base what would stop them

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I suspect Obama would take that as a direct assault on his ego and it would end really, really badly for Turkey.  Like smoking hole in the ground the size of Turkey bad for Turkey.
7/20/2016 5:35:04 PM EDT
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So there are no protocols anywhere to destroy the weapons with shaped charges and det cord?
7/20/2016 5:35:19 PM EDT
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This isn't bagram

They will build a wall out of Powerpoint slides.
7/20/2016 5:35:20 PM EDT
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With what and why?  The Izzies have far fewer Fighters and Heavy Lift than we do.  

I'm not even going to bother with the idea of having anyone else grab and "safeguard" our nukes for us.
7/20/2016 5:35:32 PM EDT
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I imagine the sea launched cruise missiles would kinda mess up their day a bit.
7/20/2016 5:35:48 PM EDT
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A piece of paper (Turkish/American agreement) should never stand in the way of control and possession of nuclear weapons. There better be some hard motherfuckers guarding the nukes - armed to the teeth.
7/20/2016 5:35:54 PM EDT
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Ah yes, didn't FBHO come out in support of the Turkish government and condemn the attempted coup?
7/20/2016 5:36:32 PM EDT
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Does this mean they will finally admit to mass murdering Armenian Christians?



 
7/20/2016 5:36:43 PM EDT
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I suspect Obama would take that as a direct assault on his ego and it would end really, really badly for Turkey.  Like smoking hole in the ground the size of Turkey bad for Turkey.



Maybe the BHO from the star trek negative or alternate universe.  And that would be the white half bho, that doesn't like spending afternoons with his body man, reggie.
7/20/2016 5:37:07 PM EDT
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Rumor has it that they have been cozying up to Russia and moving away from the EU. It would benefit Russia to gain access to a warm water port on the coast.

http://m.sputniknews.com/politics/20160717/1043165908/turkey-coup-serbia.html
7/20/2016 5:37:08 PM EDT
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In to see what those more educated than I have to say.
7/20/2016 5:37:30 PM EDT
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Why exactly aren't we pulling the nukes back to the US by now?
7/20/2016 5:37:44 PM EDT
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Yup.

And the Turkish government seemed to be able to start purging thousands of folks rather quickly once it was over.
7/20/2016 5:38:05 PM EDT
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I suspect Obama would take that as a direct assault on his ego and it would end really, really badly for Turkey.  Like smoking hole in the ground the size of Turkey bad for Turkey.
Except, he won't see it coming and it'll be too late by the time he responds...  in which case there'll be all sorts of new folks ready to use the stolen nukes on US assets right away.

 



If they are smart, the weapons are already destroyed.  




It'd be fun to think of the base just being cleared of people and for them to light them off... but that would be rude.
7/20/2016 5:38:17 PM EDT
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Let them nuke each other.
7/20/2016 5:38:30 PM EDT
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I believe the protocol is war if they touch those nukes.



Well not war but maybe a deep bow from Obama



 
7/20/2016 5:38:46 PM EDT
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They're blockading the port and nobody wants to risk an incident.
7/20/2016 5:38:47 PM EDT
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in for more info and later updates
7/20/2016 5:38:48 PM EDT
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I imagine the sea launched cruise missiles would kinda mess up their day a bit.



HAHAHAAHAHA  did you forget who's in charge.
7/20/2016 5:39:05 PM EDT
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Yep.

However dont fret Ive been assured that Turkey is an example of a peaceful Islamic country by several liberals (apparently all suffering from long term memory loss)
7/20/2016 5:39:33 PM EDT
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Sure if you want to spread nuclear material everywhere
7/20/2016 5:39:54 PM EDT
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get our guys out of there.

Last one turns off the light and turns on the nukes.

Peace the fuck out you 8th century Islamic shit hole.
7/20/2016 5:40:14 PM EDT
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Rumor has it that they have been cozying up to Russia and moving away from the EU. It would benefit Russia to gain access to a warm water port on the coast.

http://m.sputniknews.com/politics/20160717/1043165908/turkey-coup-serbia.html
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http://m.sputniknews.com/politics/20160717/1043165908/turkey-coup-serbia.html


They just shot down a Russian plane a few months ago and everyone thought Putin was going to invade.  That doesn't sound like cozying up.
7/20/2016 5:41:04 PM EDT
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LOL.  You still don't get it, do you?  Obama is doing everything in his power to cut the USA down in the eyes of the world.  It wouldn't be "him" losing the nukes, it would be "America" losing its nukes.  The press won't blame him, so the dumbass public won't blame him either.

The only thing I could see happening is some 4-star generals following already-established contingency plans to fly those nukes out of there muy pronto, and ignoring orders to the contrary.
7/20/2016 5:41:25 PM EDT
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This is bad fucking news.



Spoke to my military buddies that are stationed in turkey right now. The police (government loyalists and sharia supporters) were on incirlik AFB rounding up officers. They're going to be mass executed.



I have a feeling this situation is going to quickly turn into American hostilities leaving nuclear weapons at risk of falling into Turkish hands.



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2500 military personnel stationed there, and guess what. The power was cut to base Friday , all the Americans are sleeping at their units not in the barracks.



They aren't allowed to arm American personnel due to an American Turkish agreement.

I'm afraid this is going to turn into a gigantic Benghazi type event
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I don't think they will get the nukes. Taking them would turn this into a whole new ballgame and we would have to kick the shit out of them and take them back.
7/20/2016 5:41:35 PM EDT
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They just shot down a Russian plane a few months ago and everyone thought Putin was going to invade.  That doesn't sound like cozying up.
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If Turkey starts executing prisoners, they will not be welcomed into the EU


Rumor has it that they have been cozying up to Russia and moving away from the EU. It would benefit Russia to gain access to a warm water port on the coast.

http://m.sputniknews.com/politics/20160717/1043165908/turkey-coup-serbia.html


They just shot down a Russian plane a few months ago and everyone thought Putin was going to invade.  That doesn't sound like cozying up.

Historically does Russia care about losing a life or two or a million?
7/20/2016 5:42:48 PM EDT
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LOL.  You still don't get it, do you?  Obama is doing everything in his power to cut the USA down in the eyes of the world.  It wouldn't be "him" losing the nukes, it would be "America" losing its nukes.  The press won't blame him, so the dumbass public won't blame him either.

The only thing I could see happening is some 4-star generals following already-established contingency plans to fly those nukes out of there muy pronto, and ignoring orders to the contrary.
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Turkey has threatened to shoot them down.  Air space has also been closed off.
7/20/2016 5:43:34 PM EDT
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Any Armenians Left.
Had my Primary flight instructor, older man that  retired from the FAA. He was Armenian and disliked the Turks.
7/20/2016 5:44:41 PM EDT
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No worries.

They're our allies.



7/20/2016 5:45:06 PM EDT
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They just shot down a Russian plane a few months ago and everyone thought Putin was going to invade.  That doesn't sound like cozying up.
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If Turkey starts executing prisoners, they will not be welcomed into the EU


Rumor has it that they have been cozying up to Russia and moving away from the EU. It would benefit Russia to gain access to a warm water port on the coast.

http://m.sputniknews.com/politics/20160717/1043165908/turkey-coup-serbia.html


They just shot down a Russian plane a few months ago and everyone thought Putin was going to invade.  That doesn't sound like cozying up.

They've hated each other for hundreds of years.
7/20/2016 5:45:10 PM EDT
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LOL.  You still don't get it, do you?  Obama is doing everything in his power to cut the USA down in the eyes of the world.  It wouldn't be "him" losing the nukes, it would be "America" losing its nukes.  The press won't blame him, so the dumbass public won't blame him either.

The only thing I could see happening is some 4-star generals following already-established contingency plans to fly those nukes out of there muy pronto, and ignoring orders to the contrary.


Turkey has threatened to shoot them down.  Air space has also been closed off.



If we had a president who cared about the country that would be considered an act of war.
7/20/2016 5:45:37 PM EDT
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execute prisoners....

what are the prisoners you speak of?
7/20/2016 5:45:40 PM EDT
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get our guys out of there.

Last one turns off the light and turns on the nukes.

Peace the fuck out you 8th century Islamic shit hole.
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Have to agree.  Clear out the people, nukes, and destroy the rest in place.  Explain that any attempt at intervention will result in the removal of Turkish military assets as deemed necessary by the circumstances.
7/20/2016 5:45:45 PM EDT
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Rumor has it that they have been cozying up to Russia and moving away from the EU. It would benefit Russia to gain access to a warm water port on the coast.



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http://m.sputniknews.com/politics/20160717/1043165908/turkey-coup-serbia.html




 
^^  I mentioned this possibility in the coup thread.




No one took it seriously.
7/20/2016 5:46:27 PM EDT
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One sure way to keep anyone from getting their hands on the nukes. Set them off.



Just sayin.
7/20/2016 5:46:36 PM EDT
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This is bad fucking news.

Spoke to my military buddies that are stationed in turkey right now. The police (government loyalists and sharia supporters) were on incirlik AFB rounding up officers. They're going to be mass executed.

I have a feeling this situation is going to quickly turn into American hostilities leaving nuclear weapons at risk of falling into Turkish hands.

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2500 military personnel stationed there, and guess what. The power was cut to base Friday , all the Americans are sleeping at their units not in the barracks.

They aren't allowed to arm American personnel due to an American Turkish agreement.
I'm afraid this is going to turn into a gigantic Benghazi type event
I don't think they will get the nukes. Taking them would turn this into a whole new ballgame and we would have to kick the shit out of them and take them back.


Take?  Who needs to "take" them when they can be "lost" or "misplaced" in the fog of war?

We don't know where they are, but we'll form a search committee and find out as soon as we can...
7/20/2016 5:46:47 PM EDT
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someone pulled the command disable handle and filled this thread with derP...
7/20/2016 5:46:53 PM EDT
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LOL.  You still don't get it, do you?  Obama is doing everything in his power to cut the USA down in the eyes of the world.  It wouldn't be "him" losing the nukes, it would be "America" losing its nukes.  The press won't blame him, so the dumbass public won't blame him either.

The only thing I could see happening is some 4-star generals following already-established contingency plans to fly those nukes out of there muy pronto, and ignoring orders to the contrary.


Turkey has threatened to shoot them down.  Air space has also been closed off.


Umm... that's not an excuse to leave those nukes there, that's a reason to get them out faster.  Will it start a conflict?  Maybe, but better that than having loose nukes fall into Muslim hands.
7/20/2016 5:47:50 PM EDT
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LOL, some chicken little going on yet again...

Nukes are a strategic level asset. If Erdogen wants to commit suicide then sure, he could order it. Let alone that they'd have to get through the rather...significant barriers to the weapons before they would be inert'd.

Barracks are not on the "essential" list when it comes to generators/water supply, etc. plus accountability is much easier when centralized. Odds are the units have power/AC/water. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be sleeping in a building with no power in July in Turkey...

The guy trying to clean house and strengthen his position. There might be some dirty looks thrown at us but nothing will come of it, at least for us. We're still flying out of there after all
7/20/2016 5:49:13 PM EDT
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Tagged.
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LOL.  You still don't get it, do you?  Obama is doing everything in his power to cut the USA down in the eyes of the world.  It wouldn't be "him" losing the nukes, it would be "America" losing its nukes.  The press won't blame him, so the dumbass public won't blame him either.

The only thing I could see happening is some 4-star generals following already-established contingency plans to fly those nukes out of there muy pronto, and ignoring orders to the contrary.


Turkey has threatened to shoot them down.  Air space has also been closed off.


If we really want them moved, they will be moved....at least if we had a real leader in the WH.  Erdogan's bluster is just that.  He may be a piece of garbage dime a dozen dictator, but he is not stupid.
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