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7/13/2016 9:46:10 AM EDT
Just pulled over by highway patrol. Said I was doing 78. Had cruise set to 70.

Just put 275 / 65 / 20's on it last month.

Won't bigger tires make the speed show slower on the speedo since smaller tires turn faster?

Got warning, didn't care about the .45 in the glovebox. Just didn't want me to touch it.
7/13/2016 9:49:24 AM EDT
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calculator
7/13/2016 9:49:30 AM EDT
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use this to figure it out:

https://tiresize.com/speedometer-calibration/
7/13/2016 9:51:57 AM EDT
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Bigger tires will result in you going faster than what your speedo says.
7/13/2016 9:52:29 AM EDT
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Your math is backasswards there OP.  Bigger tire = larger circumference = farther traveled per RPM = spedo reads lower than actual.
7/13/2016 9:54:36 AM EDT
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Yeah, but 8mph faster at a displayed 70mph means MUCH bigger than stock tires.
7/13/2016 9:58:15 AM EDT
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8 over thats a tough crowd. Here nothing happens untill at least 10 over more like 20 over at interstate speeds.
7/13/2016 10:11:58 AM EDT
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Your math is backasswards there OP.  Bigger tire = larger circumference = farther traveled per RPM = spedo reads lower than actual.
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7/13/2016 10:13:24 AM EDT
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Just pulled over by highway patrol. Said I was doing 78. Had cruise set to 70.

Just put 275 / 65 / 20's on it last month.

Won't bigger tires make the speed show slower on the speedo since smaller tires turn faster?

Got warning, didn't care about the .45 in the glovebox. Just didn't want me to touch it.
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Maths are hard.  Get the phone app speedometer and gps check your speedo.
7/13/2016 10:13:35 AM EDT
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Just pulled over by highway patrol. Said I was doing 78. Had cruise set to 70.

Just put 275 / 65 / 20's on it last month.

Won't bigger tires make the speed show slower on the speedo since smaller tires turn faster?

Got warning, didn't care about the .45 in the glovebox. Just didn't want me to touch it.
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LOL yes. The larger tires make your "speed show slower on the speedo", which is to say the speedo reads lower than your actual speed.

GD math. I <3 this place.
7/13/2016 10:13:51 AM EDT
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Yeah, but 8mph faster at a displayed 70mph means MUCH bigger than stock tires.
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Bigger tires will result in you going faster than what your speedo says.

Yeah, but 8mph faster at a displayed 70mph means MUCH bigger than stock tires.


He's got on dubs.
7/13/2016 10:15:59 AM EDT
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unless you had really tiny original tires, I don't see it making much of a difference.
7/13/2016 10:16:20 AM EDT
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Get a GPS app on your phone and go drive around. I doubt it cares what size tires you have and you'll get an accurate speed. No?




7/13/2016 10:22:36 AM EDT
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One revolution of the tire covers more ground.
RPMs -> speed calculation based on outside circumference of tire.
7/13/2016 10:24:25 AM EDT
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Speedo Calibration Calculator
7/13/2016 10:33:12 AM EDT
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8 over thats a tough crowd. Here nothing happens untill at least 10 over more like 20 over at interstate speeds.
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Likewise in California.

Exception is when the motorcycle cops are pulling a wolfpack. Pretty much anybody who drives past them gets cited for something. I got cited for 3 over once.

Otherwise, it is mostly 20 over on the freeway.

Also: I have seen 4 different speeds displayed at the same time with ~5mph difference between them (GPS on my phone, GPS on my in dash nav system, ECU monitoring computer and the speedometer).
7/13/2016 10:36:18 AM EDT
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Bigger tires will result in you going faster than what your speedo says.

Yeah, but 8mph faster at a displayed 70mph means MUCH bigger than stock tires.


I have 37's and I'm about 13mph off at freeway speeds.
7/13/2016 10:47:45 AM EDT
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Bigger tires will result in you going faster than what your speedo says.


Yeah, but 8mph faster at a displayed 70mph means MUCH bigger than stock tires.


You make the assumption that the stock speedometer/tire combo was "right" on. Yeah right.



 
7/13/2016 10:50:26 AM EDT
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Have your dealer re-calibrate your speedo.
7/13/2016 11:24:05 AM EDT
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The mile markers on highways and a second hand watch is how I do it.

Hold at 60 MPH from marker to marker should be 60 seconds, simple math from there.
7/13/2016 11:38:50 AM EDT
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My speedometer is 12% off - I'm running 31x10.5s on a Jeep Wrangler.
7/13/2016 11:41:24 AM EDT
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Your odometer is off too.  Leased vehicle?
7/13/2016 11:55:41 AM EDT
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Bigger tires will result in you going faster than what your speedo says.

Yeah, but 8mph faster at a displayed 70mph means MUCH bigger than stock tires.

You make the assumption that the stock speedometer/tire combo was "right" on. Yeah right.
 

They usually read 2-3mph faster than actual speed from the factory.  So OP went from going ~68mph at an indicated 70mph, to 78mph at an indicated 70mph, for a difference of 10mph, on 34" tires.  His original tires must have been pretty small.
7/13/2016 12:26:12 PM EDT
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7/13/2016 12:26:16 PM EDT
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Just pulled over by highway patrol. Said I was doing 78. Had cruise set to 70.

Just put 275 / 65 / 20's on it last month.

Won't bigger tires make the speed show slower on the speedo since smaller tires turn faster?

Got warning, didn't care about the .45 in the glovebox. Just didn't want me to touch it.
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So many revolutions to reach 70....so you car matched that many revolutions which turned out to be 78 for the larger tires....
7/13/2016 12:27:25 PM EDT
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Yep, the speedo will show you going slower than you're actually going.

Makes around a 3% difference on my truck.
7/13/2016 12:33:54 PM EDT
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unless you had really tiny original tires, I don't see it making much of a difference.
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you are factoring tread width, not wall height.

 
Wall height change will have a far greater effect.
7/13/2016 12:44:44 PM EDT
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unless you had really tiny original tires, I don't see it making much of a difference.
you are factoring tread width, not wall height.    Wall height change will have a far greater effect.

The sizes shown there have different widths as well as heights.  The second number (70) is the sidewall height as a percentage of the tread width, so 70% of 285mm is going to be greater than 70% of 265mm.
7/13/2016 12:47:14 PM EDT
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Just pulled over by highway patrol. Said I was doing 78. Had cruise set to 70.

Just put 275 / 65 / 20's on it last month.

Won't bigger tires make the speed show slower on the speedo since smaller tires turn faster?

Got warning, didn't care about the .45 in the glovebox. Just didn't want me to touch it.
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That's correct. Which means you're going faster than your speedo registers if your tires are larger than stock.
7/13/2016 12:49:25 PM EDT
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Yep.  I had to put a different speedo gear in the transfer case of my Cherokee when I went from stock to 31s.    I checked with a GPS and it made enough of a difference where I needed to fix it.
7/13/2016 12:53:17 PM EDT
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Get a GPS app on your phone and go drive around. I doubt it cares what size tires you have and you'll get an accurate speed. No?
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That's what I have to do. The speedometer shows 80 when I'm only going between 70-72 mph.












 
7/13/2016 12:55:10 PM EDT
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unless you had really tiny original tires, I don't see it making much of a difference.
you are factoring tread width, not wall height.    Wall height change will have a far greater effect.

GPS says 74-75 with my Destination MTs...

So there's some fudge factor.
7/13/2016 1:46:27 PM EDT
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If you really want to check it on the cheap, find a school zone that has one of those digital speed readouts as you approach. Set Cruise Control to 60
and see how far off you are.  
7/13/2016 2:37:28 PM EDT
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Turns out the app says I'm 7mph off. Can I adjust the speedo myself?

2013 F150.
7/13/2016 2:51:27 PM EDT
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I went from p245/75r16 to 35x12.50r20 and I'm off 6mph at 45 and 10mph at 70.
7/13/2016 3:00:29 PM EDT
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Damn, guys.

Really so hard to type "speedometer" instead of "speedo?"
7/13/2016 3:02:33 PM EDT
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I swear every LEO on 95/75/4 has an unwritten threshold somewhere in the 8-12mph over zone.  Anything over and you risk a ticket.  Anything under and you're getting passed by everyone except the snowbirds, tourists, or geriatrics.  




OP, as others have said, a larger tire will increase actual speed over indicated speed.  Check actual speed with a gps/smartphone.  You'd have to have a pretty big tire to through it off by much though.  I went from 32" stock tires to 37"s and was off by maybe 7-8mph at highway speeds.  
7/13/2016 3:09:13 PM EDT
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Damn, guys.

Really so hard to type "speedometer" instead of "speedo?"
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if you know what it means why does it bother you?
Was it really so hard to type "Is it" at the beginning of your sentence?
7/13/2016 3:25:04 PM EDT
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Damn, guys.

Really so hard to type "speedometer" instead of "speedo?"
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Double entendre is fun.

You don't want to help a guy get his speedo issue straightened out?
7/13/2016 3:27:12 PM EDT
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My cousin replaced the tires on his Blazer with big tires meant for sand dunes, even though he never really drove on sand dunes. Then he got a ticket for speeding because he was watching his speedometer. I told him he was stupid.

YMMV.
7/13/2016 3:30:44 PM EDT
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Larger diameter makes the vehicle go faster than it thinks its going per gear in transmission.



336 x mph x gear ratio / tire diameter = RPM  
7/13/2016 3:33:36 PM EDT
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Bigger tires = more distance traveled per revolution. The speedometer is based on revolutions. Little tires = more revolutions per mile than bigger tires = higher speedometer reading.
7/13/2016 3:35:28 PM EDT
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Turns out the app says I'm 7mph off. Can I adjust the speedo myself?

2013 F150.
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Have your dealer re-calibrate your speedo.

Turns out the app says I'm 7mph off. Can I adjust the speedo myself?

2013 F150.

It's probably new enough for a computer.
It only takes a few minutes and wasn't much.
7/13/2016 3:36:48 PM EDT
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I went to shorter tires and according to the calculators I'm actually going 70 when my speedo says 74.
7/13/2016 3:40:54 PM EDT
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I had that conversation back in the very early '80s with a Mississippi state trooper when I got stopped in my jacked up '67 Firebird. His words were "It's because of them big ass tires you have on the back of that thing. You're going to get your ass killed (meaning from the speed)". He was funny and I didn't even get a warning.
7/13/2016 3:45:41 PM EDT
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Op, can you just put a bigger speedometer?

















7/13/2016 3:48:43 PM EDT
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They wanted like $350 to do mine, I walked out

It's pretty easy to figure without a website via a proportion. Probably not as accurate but it's pretty damn spot on for my jeep on 35's.


ETA: (current/original)speedometer readout
7/13/2016 3:52:19 PM EDT
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It works out to approximately 1.25 mph over for each size you go above the original tire size.  This will get you pretty close at how off your odometer is.
7/13/2016 3:54:50 PM EDT
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You either need to use a GPS to watch your speed, or you need to get a programmer (Bully dog, Hypertech, Diablo sport, etc) for your car to change the tire size setting.
7/13/2016 3:56:24 PM EDT
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They wanted like $350 to do mine, I walked out

It's pretty easy to figure without a website via a proportion. Probably not as accurate but it's pretty damn spot on for my jeep on 35's.


ETA: (current/original)speedometer readout
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Have your dealer re-calibrate your speedo.


They wanted like $350 to do mine, I walked out

It's pretty easy to figure without a website via a proportion. Probably not as accurate but it's pretty damn spot on for my jeep on 35's.


ETA: (current/original)speedometer readout

Holy shit!
My Jeep was like $40 at the dealer.
7/13/2016 4:02:50 PM EDT
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Let me clear something up here.  Speedometers are never off by a certain number of miles per hour.  They are off by a percentage.

If my speedometer is showing 70 mph, but I'm actually traveling at 77 mph, then my speedometer is off by 10%.  It will vary by speed, this same speedometer would show me doing 10 mph if I was actually traveling 11 mph, and it would read 200 mph if I was actually going 220 mph.  So it might be off by 1 mph or 20 mph depending on your speed.  Start thinking of it as a percentage difference rather than a set speed value difference.

A speedometer is never just "5 mph off."  So, please do not think of it that way.  I can't tell you how many people (IRL) I have heard say "Oh yeah my speedometer is off by 5 miles per hour."  If you're parked it's going to show 0 mph no matter how far off it is.
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