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6/8/2016 11:48:22 PM EDT
Do these work? What is Arfcom's consensus on these miracle machines? Worth the money?
6/8/2016 11:51:55 PM EDT
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I have the Ken Onion Edition.  It's Badass.   Can put a sharp new edge on any blade rather quickly.

So easy even and idiot can do it.  -> me
6/9/2016 12:01:09 AM EDT
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GTG, watch your blade tips though...
6/9/2016 12:18:28 AM EDT
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Go with the Ken onion.  Its is hands down the greatest thing ever made.
6/9/2016 12:18:43 AM EDT
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I have one. It is outstanding.

I practiced at first with some old blades. That was a very good decision!

A couple of months ago, I handed my Benchmade AFO 2 to a guy to cut something. He sliced through it and then looked up in surprise. He told me that it was the sharpest blade he had seen since he practiced martial arts.

I use it to sharpen everything: mower blades, axes, shovels, scissors, and even knives.

We bought our son the Ken Onion version.



6/9/2016 12:24:27 AM EDT
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I use these OP, Spyderco sharp makers..still haven't seen anything that will consistently sharpen knives better by hand....


6/9/2016 12:27:47 AM EDT
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This is good info, what is the difference between the Ken Onion and regular version?
6/9/2016 12:27:57 AM EDT
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6/9/2016 12:30:08 AM EDT
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6/9/2016 12:30:51 AM EDT
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6/9/2016 12:34:05 AM EDT
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it s very good.  you can put a sharp edge on anything metal.
6/9/2016 12:41:36 AM EDT
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It's easy to round them off if your not careful.

 


6/9/2016 12:42:09 AM EDT
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Gotcha.

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6/9/2016 12:43:26 AM EDT
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http://www.worksharptools.com/compare-knife-sharpeners



 
6/9/2016 12:46:01 AM EDT
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Thanks. That was helpful.

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6/9/2016 1:09:42 AM EDT
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Also make sure to clean off the dust when changing belts.



If you let it build up it will mark your blades
6/9/2016 1:18:32 AM EDT
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I'm using a Sharpmaker. Like it enough to not need to upgrade.
6/9/2016 1:22:09 AM EDT
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6/9/2016 1:30:52 AM EDT
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Does this work on serrated blades?
6/9/2016 2:10:32 AM EDT
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Does the blade being sharpened build up heat quickly?  Lose the heat treat?

I ask because my FIL used his butcher knife (retired butcher) belt sharpener on my whustofs.  Now they wont hold an edge.
6/9/2016 2:14:43 AM EDT
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Arkansas stone.
6/9/2016 2:17:49 AM EDT
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I love my Worksharp Ken Onion.
6/9/2016 2:36:08 AM EDT
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I know, I know. My grampa could literally take a butter knife and make it into a shaving razor. I did not inherit his skill. So, gonna go with technology.
6/9/2016 3:32:31 AM EDT
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How long was he putting that knife to the belt sharpener?

I got the OG worksharp. I also purchased the life time belts...I use it exactly 1-2 times a year.  Two weeks ago I just redid all 17 knives in my kitchen. With the proper belt one pass on each side of the blade if the knife is not too screwed up. Basically 2-10 seconds a side closer to 2. No problems for at least the next 3-8 months. I also did a machete.
6/9/2016 3:50:43 AM EDT
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Does the blade being sharpened build up heat quickly?  Lose the heat treat?



I ask because my FIL used his butcher knife (retired butcher) belt sharpener on my whustofs.  Now they wont hold an edge.
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he would have to heat it up a lot. I personally dislike belt sander type sharpeners. and have the real version of one of these



it works very well and is very reproducible




6/9/2016 4:11:29 AM EDT
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6/9/2016 4:37:58 AM EDT
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Does this work on serrated blades?


I have successfully sharpened serrated blades on mine. Concur with previous posters as well, practice on old blades, watch the tip.
6/9/2016 4:48:05 AM EDT
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I use something similar though its a little bigger.

http://www.beaumontmetalworks.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=63
6/9/2016 4:49:28 AM EDT
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I own the KO edition.  Works well, though I have yet to use it on my more expensive blades.

Get some practice knives if you get this as it works almost too well

6/9/2016 4:54:50 AM EDT
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I recently bought one since it was recommended for sharpening my Sebenza. Works great, though I will need to get the diamond rods to reprofile a couple knives that just don't quite work with the angles it offers.
6/9/2016 5:48:23 AM EDT
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I use something similar though its a little bigger.

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I have one as well. Just picked up a Wuertz surface grinder attachment for mine.

It doesn't take much to ruin a heat treat everyone. Be very careful. It may not seem like it, but you can. The very apex of the edge is very thin and heats up very very quick. If you're doing high carbon steels like 1095, you're going to get above the 375-475f degree tempering temp very quick. Don't use much pressure.

I would recommend a Wicked Edge system or maybe a Tormek wet sharpener. I have a Grizzly clone of the Tormek I need to setup. Imo it's ideal because you can set the exact bevel angle and it grinds wet.

I'm a knife maker btw.
6/9/2016 5:53:57 AM EDT
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I started with oil and whetstones before they had anything else to sharpen knives. Tried many different types over the years and have found nothing I like as well as Spyderco Sharpmakers. Anyone can use them, they're idiot proof and they're fast.
6/9/2016 6:39:01 AM EDT
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I have the Ken onion edition as well and I love it.
6/9/2016 7:16:21 AM EDT
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he would have to heat it up a lot. I personally dislike belt sander type sharpeners. and have the real version of one of these



it works very well and is very reproducible





http://smile.amazon.com/Professional-Kitchen-Sharpener-Fix-angle-Version/dp/B00CGVJ4YO?ie=UTF8&colid=2CCG6HCXD7ZPA&coliid=I34NKVKHBVTE8&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl    

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Does the blade being sharpened build up heat quickly?  Lose the heat treat?



I ask because my FIL used his butcher knife (retired butcher) belt sharpener on my whustofs.  Now they wont hold an edge.
he would have to heat it up a lot. I personally dislike belt sander type sharpeners. and have the real version of one of these



it works very well and is very reproducible





http://smile.amazon.com/Professional-Kitchen-Sharpener-Fix-angle-Version/dp/B00CGVJ4YO?ie=UTF8&colid=2CCG6HCXD7ZPA&coliid=I34NKVKHBVTE8&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl    





 



Damn, and here I spent 50hrs copying the Edge Pro.




Well, at least I can say I made it myself.



6/9/2016 11:55:28 AM EDT
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Does the blade being sharpened build up heat quickly?  Lose the heat treat?



I ask because my FIL used his butcher knife (retired butcher) belt sharpener on my whustofs.  Now they wont hold an edge.
he would have to heat it up a lot. I personally dislike belt sander type sharpeners. and have the real version of one of these



it works very well and is very reproducible





http://smile.amazon.com/Professional-Kitchen-Sharpener-Fix-angle-Version/dp/B00CGVJ4YO?ie=UTF8&colid=2CCG6HCXD7ZPA&coliid=I34NKVKHBVTE8&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl    



 



Damn, and here I spent 50hrs copying the Edge Pro.





Well, at least I can say I made it myself.





I have been thinking about making one large enough to do axe heads. I would love to see your home made version

 
6/9/2016 2:42:20 PM EDT
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I have one as well. Just picked up a Wuertz surface grinder attachment for mine.

It doesn't take much to ruin a heat treat everyone. Be very careful. It may not seem like it, but you can. The very apex of the edge is very thin and heats up very very quick. If you're doing high carbon steels like 1095, you're going to get above the 375-475f degree tempering temp very quick. Don't use much pressure.

I would recommend a Wicked Edge system or maybe a Tormek wet sharpener. I have a Grizzly clone of the Tormek I need to setup. Imo it's ideal because you can set the exact bevel angle and it grinds wet.

I'm a knife maker btw.
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I use something similar though its a little bigger.

http://www.beaumontmetalworks.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=63


I have one as well. Just picked up a Wuertz surface grinder attachment for mine.

It doesn't take much to ruin a heat treat everyone. Be very careful. It may not seem like it, but you can. The very apex of the edge is very thin and heats up very very quick. If you're doing high carbon steels like 1095, you're going to get above the 375-475f degree tempering temp very quick. Don't use much pressure.

I would recommend a Wicked Edge system or maybe a Tormek wet sharpener. I have a Grizzly clone of the Tormek I need to setup. Imo it's ideal because you can set the exact bevel angle and it grinds wet.

I'm a knife maker btw.


How do you like the Wuertz surface grinder? I just saw it about a week or so ago and was thinking about getting one. Does it work as well as it appears to in the videos?
6/9/2016 6:00:34 PM EDT
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How do you like the Wuertz surface grinder? I just saw it about a week or so ago and was thinking about getting one. Does it work as well as it appears to in the videos?
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I use something similar though its a little bigger.

http://www.beaumontmetalworks.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=63


I have one as well. Just picked up a Wuertz surface grinder attachment for mine.

It doesn't take much to ruin a heat treat everyone. Be very careful. It may not seem like it, but you can. The very apex of the edge is very thin and heats up very very quick. If you're doing high carbon steels like 1095, you're going to get above the 375-475f degree tempering temp very quick. Don't use much pressure.

I would recommend a Wicked Edge system or maybe a Tormek wet sharpener. I have a Grizzly clone of the Tormek I need to setup. Imo it's ideal because you can set the exact bevel angle and it grinds wet.

I'm a knife maker btw.


How do you like the Wuertz surface grinder? I just saw it about a week or so ago and was thinking about getting one. Does it work as well as it appears to in the videos?


It works great, I love it. Makes tapering tangs a breeze. Also makes sanding flats very simple.
6/9/2016 6:30:49 PM EDT
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Isn't it true that most knives do not have convex edges?



Does this sharpener change the profile?
6/9/2016 6:39:15 PM EDT
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Yes they work.  I have one, but rarely use it anymore.

But-the do remove a fair bit of material, and it's easy to round of the tip.

An also easy to use alternative is a set of croc sticks.  A little slower, but still effective.

6/9/2016 7:09:20 PM EDT
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Gotcha.

I have the basic model and love it.  be careful when you pull the knife through you don't lift the back handle part up, which rounds the tip as you reach the end, just takes a little practice.  It's a good warning.

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Gotcha.

I have the basic model and love it.  be careful when you pull the knife through you don't lift the back handle part up, which rounds the tip as you reach the end, just takes a little practice.  It's a good warning.

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6/9/2016 10:42:28 PM EDT
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It just changes the edge to convex and yes most common knives seem not to have a convex edge

 
6/10/2016 4:19:12 AM EDT
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It works great, I love it. Makes tapering tangs a breeze. Also makes sanding flats very simple.
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I use something similar though its a little bigger.

http://www.beaumontmetalworks.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=63


I have one as well. Just picked up a Wuertz surface grinder attachment for mine.

It doesn't take much to ruin a heat treat everyone. Be very careful. It may not seem like it, but you can. The very apex of the edge is very thin and heats up very very quick. If you're doing high carbon steels like 1095, you're going to get above the 375-475f degree tempering temp very quick. Don't use much pressure.

I would recommend a Wicked Edge system or maybe a Tormek wet sharpener. I have a Grizzly clone of the Tormek I need to setup. Imo it's ideal because you can set the exact bevel angle and it grinds wet.

I'm a knife maker btw.


How do you like the Wuertz surface grinder? I just saw it about a week or so ago and was thinking about getting one. Does it work as well as it appears to in the videos?


It works great, I love it. Makes tapering tangs a breeze. Also makes sanding flats very simple.


Thanks man, I'll have to pick one up. Right now I'm just using a hand held magnet to press the blank against the platen but it's only 8" and I figured the surface grinder would come in really handy for larger knives.